My daughter finally wants to watch Buffy, but...

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So my 9 year old has finally expressed that she wants to watch Buffy with me. I've told her up to end of season 3 because I think after that it is unsuitable... but my question to you is are there any episodes I should be missing out? She is a young 9 year old so I don't want any sex scenes, violence is no problem as its vampires etc but definitely no sex... please list what you think is unsuitable as my brain is not working this morning and I know she'll want to watch after school.
 
Are you sure that's the best way to go about it? I mean the story's going to be very disjointed and hard to follow for a start. Also isn't it a little strange to say violence is acceptable but sex is scary?
 
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I'm not sure where Nix lives, but the American mantra is "there's no such thing as too much violence, but we must protect people from sex!" You can buy assault rifles but there are politicians who want to legislate birth control. It's a thing.
She watches some violence on video games so I don't mind the low level in Buffy. However due to her age she has not had sex education as of yet so I don't need her learning about it through a tv show or anywhere else that I can control before she is ready. Many people here have said young ones have seen Buffy so I wanted some advice and guidance before I make a final decision.
 
It's a funny age. My other half's little boy is 7. He's a big Marvel fan, and super hero films in general. Whenever there's anything alluding to sex or whatever onscreen he usually just makes a face and says "eww, why would a boy want to kiss a girl!". Or it just completely goes over his head. I'm not his parent so I don't choose what he gets to watch though.
 
Maybe just watch season 1? 🙂
Honestly, I agree with this. If you are concerned about the 'sexier' aspects there's a lot of that in season 2. Even the start when Buffy is bumping and grinding on Xander there's a lot of sexy sexy in season 2.
 
Even if you're sticking to Season 1 then there's lots of sex references. Teacher's Pet is all about virgins, The Pack has possessed Xander, The Puppet Show has Sid the horny dummy.
 
I would wonder if earlier season sex would go over her head at this stage? Or could it be a starting point for discussion if she does express interest? It'd probably turn a young girl off giving up her virginity for any old guy, no matter how trustworthy he seems. Most sexual activity has consequence in those early seasons (even as simple as Buffy rolling her eyes at Sid, a kid who looks up to Buffy may model that).

Would the earlier books be a better start? Even the ones that are based on episodes (the harvest etc). I remember them reading very young to me.

Out of the shows of that genre now days, I would say Buffy is very mild viewing.
 
I know it's not really the same, but I watched Dirty Dancing when I was about the same age and I just didn't understand the whole Penny storyline, at all. I just thought she was sick and Baby's father helped make her better!

She's probably been exposed a little more than I was at her age, but I would say Season 1 would be acceptable as a start and maybe see how she gets on. But I would imagine any of the more sexual references would just go over her head. But you're the parent, so you know best 🙂

Or if you really want her to see 1-3, try to record them off SyFy Channel if they're on, because they edit the show down for sex and violence (as I found out to my chagrin whilst watching Doppelgangland on the channel recently! 😀)
 
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That's interesting about the Sci fy channel, I didn't know they did that!
This is a toughie. Maybe stick with S1 and just cherry pick episodes after that , that don't have too much or the type of sex that you are uncomfortable with her seeing. There is a lot of sex in the show. That struck me, even when I first watched it as an adult.

I cherry pick episodes to watch with my seven year old grandson. He knows grown ups do yucky stuff with their bodies that he has no interest in and a lot of the innuendo goes over his head, or under his radar. If we avoid anything blatant it's fine. He has no interest in the romance so he doesn't care if we skip those episodes. I think girls would generally be more interested in that emotional stuff than a younger boy though. Even so, he is very intrigued by the dynamics in the romantic relationships, more than I would have thought. At least Buffy and her vampires. He doesn't care at all about Xander and Anya.
 
I started watching Buffy at 10 and by the time I was 11-12 I could understand completely the sex stuff that was going on and could handle the violence. If I were you I would hold off till your daughter is 10, watch season 1, and then play it by ear from there depending on what she takes away from it.
 
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I don't know the particulars of your sitch, so I can't comment on that directly. I'm just going to share some observations.

One, lots of little kids watch R-rated movies. Some of them seem to find them boring and less disturbing than I, as an adult, do (though I snuck into a few R-rated movies in my own youth, I believe taken to and snuck into my first one at age 11). I've seen things in the video rental store like some little kid wanting to see, say, "Sorority Sex Cannibals" (just inventing a ridiculous name, but some of the titles I've heard made me marvel that such movie titles existed) and hear the mother say things like, "We've already seen that 10 times." (I don't know what these kids are like, generally speaking. But I expect they know it's "not real" and "it's not appropriate to do these things" just as they are with their cartoons.)

I can also point out that while I didn't normally see R-rated movies with impunity (and I could be surprisingly sensitive at times, I mean to the scary and traumatic stuff), we kids shared a lot of very age inappropriate materials, from songs to jokes. While we didn't know as much as we thought, we weren't likely to be shocked by anything we saw outside of porn either (and double true for me who spent years on a farm as well as in homes with thin walls). I think I was 10-11 when I, with a friend of the same age, saw a Simpsons cartoon that showed Smithers having a gay sex fantasy over Burns, and we both understood it, though I'm not sure how and why we did.


I helped raise 2 kids from age 11 and 6. Both were heavily into Harry Potter, and the 11-year-old was already reading Twilight (which is how I got to read it, because she wanted me to), and she knew many other girls who had (though there apparently was some tiff at her school between some Potter and Twilight fans), though she was also into the Disney shows like Hanna and Wizards of Waverly Place (btw, if you think Disney sneaks crap past the radar, you should see what gets aired on Nick!). The boy was mostly into Transformers and GI Joe (the movies anyway). 'Course when me and their mother get a place together, they quickly came to realize that it wasn't always a man and woman who were attracted to each other as well, assuming they didn't already realize this.

So they're 12 and 7 when their mother shows me It's A Wonderful Life, and I get a bit tipsy with the spiked nog. The movie made me think of the Buffy ep The Wish, so I decided to show her that, and then I (not entirely sober) asked the girl if she wanted to see it with us given that she was into Twilight (and figured she could use a better role model than Bella anyway), but she said no. I said it was probably for the best as it was a bit on the scary side, and then told the boy, though also telling him it was a bit on the scary side and might give him nightmares (which he had a lot of back then). Both ended up watching it with us (apparently saying it was scary made it an easy sale), and after which, both wanted to see Doppelgangland...and it was in this show I started to wonder if this was a bit too much for them, but they handled it fine and didn't ask any uncomfortable questions over it.


It was 2 years later, so the boy was 9, when both took to watching the series as a whole (both Buffy and Angel) and both loved it. I was worried more worried about the boy getting bored with the soap opera aspects, but he didn't, and found them compelling (btw, I've found many boys can love the stuff for girls, and vice versa, back when I did a lot of babysitting, and plenty of little boys even seemed to get into the love story between the knight & unicorn turned into a human in The Last Unicorn...and no kid seemed eeked out or confused by the tree scene either).

Though it made me reckless, and I let him see some movies that I wouldn't have if I'd vetted them first. One of them wasn't too bad (and it was a dvd of mine, so I'd seen it before), but it had a major focus on a sex scene that I'd completely forgotten about that raised some uncomfortable questions...though his questions were respectful and intelligent enough that I ultimately didn't regret it, I was just caught off guard by it (and mad at myself for forgetting about that scene). But letting him see R-rated movies also made him feel a bit entitled, and when I refused to let him (at age 10) to see The Evil Dead at the cinema he blew a gasket, and I think he felt I was calling him immature (though his tantrum surely was immature, and I suspect he snuck in to see it with friends). Yet had I just let him view Buffy and Angel without then becoming more permissive with a few R-rated movies then I think that could've been averted.
 
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Will you be sat with your daughter, will you be willing to explain everything to her. My daughter was 8 years old when she began to watch the series, I sat through it with her and explained it completely. The hardest episode to explain was Jonathon taking a high powered rifle with one bullet to kill himself, my daughter and I came to the agreement he would have used a toe to pull the trigger. I never had to bother with the school shooting as the show itself caused enough to try and contemplate how stupid he must have been.
And for that other hard question to answer, thankfully not many in the series smoked cigarettes.
 
GwenRaiden, notice that did you? Puts on serious voice.
You state about the other half's son being 7 and how, that you are not a parent you have no control over what shows he watches. You are missing the joys of babysitting, that you force the kid to watch really scary films so that when you ring at 3:30 am even if the phone rings twice you know the parents will not get to sleep again.
How will you know if Bluebird was the babysitter for Winter last night? Easy, she won't be able to stop grinning when you look at her!
 
I agree about watching just season 1, it would be pretty easy. There's no sex, and it has a different vibe than the rest of the series. It should work pretty well on its own.
 
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Maybe give it one or two more years. I think she could maybe handle it as its no more upsetting than the Lord of the Rings movies. But episodes like the Pack might be a bit much. As a rule of thumb I'd say it depends on the child. Certainly wouldn't show her season 2 just yet.
 
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I was a really mature 9 year old and stuff like that never bothered me, but for a more.. normal.. 9 year old, I don't think I'd let her go past a certain season, or if you wanted to, you could let her watch only specific episodes from different seasons if she's ok with stuff maybe being spoiled for her, lol. Like... Once More, With Feeling would probably be an ok one.

I kind of went in reverse compared to a lot of people. When I was 9, I wasn't bothered by anything and could sit through really sad episodes in shows without blinking but now I can barely even think about a sad episode without getting all emotional LOL.

So really just think hard about how your kid could handle this stuff. If you think she'd be fine, I say go for it. My mother kept me very sheltered from stuff like this because she thought it'd mess me up somehow, but when I'd go to friends' houses and I'd watch stuff like Buffy and worse, I was completely fine. But if you think she couldn't handle it, probably don't do it and wait a few more years.

You could always get her started on watching a few Angel episodes. Or also keep her occupied by letting her watch other appropriate shows/movies that Buffy actors played in if that would interest her.

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November
November
I was sheltered in the home, but friends! Wow, the jokes we told at 9!!
I would pick and choose the eps, not trying to follow the story too much, and just watch how she is, honestly I'm not sure she would sit through a whole ep anyway right now. Maybe find a good ep that would introduce her to the characters, then some of the lighter and funnier ones
 
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