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End Of Days 7x21
buffy and angel have passionately kiss together but what they don't know is Spike is watching them from nearby with a broken heart, as the First approaches him in the form of Buffy. OMG :: broken :: broken :: broken ::angel:: ::angel::
 
i hate it

i hate it i know she loves spike oh god i have no idea whats gonna happen in the last ep i really need to know it is driving me crazy. i got a bad feelin about spike, god i hope they dont kill him
 
Re: i hate it

Originally posted by ladyspike
i hate it i know she loves spike oh god i have no idea whats gonna happen in the last ep i really need to know it is driving me crazy. i got a bad feelin about spike, god i hope they dont kill him
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Buffy dosen't love Spike. He was just something she used a few times to escape from the real world. Angel and Buffy are soulmates.
 
*nice*, but I do not think they would end the show with Buffy looking like a user, orAngel being self-center. But the kiss, between is *Sweet. but, if Buffy had grown up, they will not end it with her returning to Angel, because it would violate just about every character's development on both the
stories on BtVS and AtS. 🙄 So, do not do the "happy dance"::dance::

It was also implied that Buffy slept with Spike in epiosde 20

I think she really loves Spike.


Angel had been resouled "twice" , and not once did he ever think about trying to find someone to removed the orignal curse , so he can keep his soul, and still be with Buffy. he list the reason why they can't be toghether, yet never looked for way to try and stay together. ohh , but he so in love!

They are so close too:

she told him her deepest secret when she came back from the grave....oops! that was Spike
She trusts him around to take care of her mom and little sister.....oops! that was Spike!
She hang out with him and his demon friends, because she felt safe with him and even had his friend come to her party....oops that was Spike again.

She could turn to him when all her friends had abandon her because she knows she can count on him....oops! that was Spike again.

She can sleep with him , knowing he will still be there in the morning....Spike, Spike spike.

But she can count on Angel to tell her the truth, he told her about him and Darla having Connor?? oops, he forgot, to mention that .

he told her how he dream of perfect happiness with her....no, that right , that was Cordy

[1]He told her about how he declared his love for Cordelai the one person who almost made her life a living hell in high school.[/1]..naw, that a secret.



If they were going to have Buffy return to Angel, they would have been building up to that. they would have had her, turn to Angel, when all the scoobies turn against her, instead of Spike. they would have allowed Willow to tell Buffy she was going to L.A, etc::nono::


I do not think Buffy will wind up with Angel, she will probably tell Spike as he lies, dying, that she loves him
::heart:: ::heart:: ::heart::
 
she told him her deepest secret when she came back from the grave....oops! that was Spike
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When Buffy came back from the dead she and Angel immediantly met each other. It was not shown on the show, but it is established in the dialogue.

he told her how he dream of perfect happiness with her....no, that right , that was Cordy
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He said Buffy's name when he has dream sex with Cordy.

Angel had been resouled "twice" , and not once did he ever think about trying to find someone to removed the orignal curse , so he can keep his soul, and still be with Buffy. he list the reason why they can't be toghether, yet never looked for way to try and stay together. ohh , but he so in love!
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He is in love with her. Angel and Buffy will always love each other. It is established that they will. They are soul mates But they know that they are champions. Angel had a soul breifly in Season one "I will remember You'. But because it would lead to BUffy's earlier death , he gave it up so that she could live longer.
That is true love. They both still love each other ..They have, however, moved on. They have different lives now and different love interests.
I also think that Buffy Loves Spike now. But she still loves Angel too.
 
Originally posted by No Angel
Buffy dosen't love Spike. He was just something she used a few times to escape from the real world. Angel and Buffy are soulmates.
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Thank you. Someone who argees with me. Buffy was just using Spike. She still loves Angel.
 
Oh how I would love the Bangel ending. 😀

But, someone also said (who is pretty good into spoilers):
LOL...for all you Bangels tripping about the kiss..I just want you to know one thing.

It has been all but confiremed that after they kiss they realize they dont love each other the same anymore. Like, the heat is gone. Then she confeses her love for Spike. So, that Bangel kiss was pure CANNON for a Spuffy move. So, sorry bangel folks, that kiss is meant for closure, not for love. Much like the Xander/Anya sex.

YA!!!!!! I feel so much relief now.

I'm just wondering if this is true or not. God I hope not!
Bangel should get the happy ending, not Spuffy.
 
YES!!!! Buffy and Angel don't love each other anymore. They might be soulmates, but hello? If you can't have sex... you don't really share an emotional bond.

Even though I HOPE, HOPE, HOPE that Buffy does love and does tell Spike that she loves him... I'm not counting my chickens until that happens. Don't want to get my hopes up!

But... Buffy and Angel as we know it are dead.
 
Originally posted by *~Buffy&à…ngel~*
Oh how I would love the Bangel ending. 😀

But, someone also said (who is pretty good into spoilers):
LOL...for all you Bangels tripping about the kiss..I just want you to know one thing.

It has been all but confiremed that after they kiss they realize they dont love each other the same anymore. Like, the heat is gone. Then she confeses her love for Spike. So, that Bangel kiss was pure CANNON for a Spuffy move. So, sorry bangel folks, that kiss is meant for closure, not for love. Much like the Xander/Anya sex.

YA!!!!!! I feel so much relief now.

I'm just wondering if this is true or not. God I hope not!
Bangel should get the happy ending, not Spuffy.
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I hope it's not true! 😡 I really don't want to see a Spuffy ending!
 
Originally posted by SpikedBuffy
They might be soulmates, but hello? If you can't have sex... you don't really share an emotional bond.
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Oh my! 🙄
Everything doesn't revolve around sex people. Sex doesn't equal love. You share an emotional bond just by being with each other, loving each other, caring for each other. and knowing each other. Not by having sex. Take Christopher Reeve for instance. Paralyzed for life, and unable to have sex. You're going to tell me that him and his wife don't share an emotional bond?
Therefore, you don't share an emotional bond just by having sex.

Phew... I had to rant there because I am getting tired of hearing that excuse. And I'm also tired of people liking Spuffy only for the sex. Like it because you like it, don't like it because Bangel can't have sex and Spuffy can, and you think that sex is the only way to share an emotional bond (which is really silly by the way, and not true). I admit, they were cute in Season 5. But when all that sex and abuse happened in Season 6, it wasn't cute at all. It was disgusting. They were so explicit with the Buffy/Spike sex show. They were never that way with Buffy/Angel. Not to mention when Buffy/Angel did have sex with each other, they were gentle with each other not rough. Not this Sadist and Masicist sex between Buffy/Spike. You have no idea how it turned my stomache just seeing them having sex.

Don't worry Buffy16Angel, it's not really a confirmation. By the looks of it, it's just an assumption, no one knows. I can't really believe her without her linking me to the source where she got the info. All we know is Bangel kiss. Yay!
 
i think she loves Spike, but Angel is and probably always will be her soulmate. I can't say which I'd rather her be with because I like both Spike and Angel.
 
As much as you'd like to continue thinking happy thoughts about Bangel celibacy...

you're wrong.

Sex is very important. If it wasn't, then there wouldn't be any future to the human race... no reproduction.

Whether Buffy ends up with Spike, Angel, or a blue-haired monkey... there is always sex. Whether the couple can have it happily, can't have it because of a curse, or just shouldn't be having it because that would be wrong.
 
First, Buffy and Spike can't reproduce so I don't see how that applies to them unless you think sex itself is important. Which I say again, its not. What about those who can't have sex, or can't reproduce and are married or in love? You're going to say they can't be together just because they can't have sex? That's how I think of Buffy and Angel, they just can't have sex. And it doesn't mean that they can't be together because sex isn't important when you are truly in love. People that think sex is important usually bounce around from boyfriend to boyfriend, I've seen people like that. But, for those that don't and think love is important and not sex usually get the happy ending.

But, if you think sex is so important, you can't really be against the Buffy/Angel relationship if Angel becomes human after he gets his Shansu. Because he would be without a curse, and be able to have sex with Buffy.

That's what I liked about Buffy/Angel, they weren't based on Sex, they were based on Love. They didn't need sex to keep them happy, just being with each other did it just fine. Not sex.
 
Originally posted by *~Buffy&à…ngel~*
First, Buffy and Spike can't reproduce so I don't see how that applies to them unless you think sex itself is important. Which I say again, its not. What about those who can't have sex, or can't reproduce and are married or in love? You're going to say they can't be together just because they can't have sex? That's how I think of Buffy and Angel, they just can't have sex. And it doesn't mean that they can't be together because sex isn't important when you are truly in love. People that think sex is important usually bounce around from boyfriend to boyfriend, I've seen people like that. But, for those that don't and think love is important and not sex usually get the happy ending.

But, if you think sex is so important, you can't really be against the Buffy/Angel relationship if Angel becomes human after he gets his Shansu. Because he would be without a curse, and be able to have sex with Buffy.

That's what I liked about Buffy/Angel, they weren't based on Sex, they were based on Love. They didn't need sex to keep them happy, just being with each other did it just fine. Not sex.
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I agree with you! You made some very good points. Buffy and Spike relationship was just base on sex and not love. Buffy and Angel on the other hand just love being with each other and didn't really want sex.
 
We can go on with this conversation FOREVER!!!!

Yes, you can have a healthy relationship without sex... but once sex does get involved, why do people constantly want to do it?

BECAUSE... it's an emotional bond. Yeah, okay, MOST people do have sex for the pleasure people (the people that you refer to as the once who bounce from relationship to relationship without a solid actual relationship)... but in some cases there is a time when the emotions that you can feel from sex do affect your relationship with the person you are sleeping with.
An everlasting emotional bond is formed and even if you could never have sex again, you would remember and enjoy the times you did... so, contrary to your opinion, sex is important.

Okay... I'm done now. Everyone has their own personal views and from this point on, I will no longer argue with anybody on this matter.
 
emotional bond my ...! angel didnt loose his soul from the sex when he lost his soul the first time it was hours after they had sex if you recall they were lieing in bed sleeping angel woke up and looked at buffy at that moment being with buffy gave him pure happiness and at that moment he lost his soul it was that fast he didnt loose his soul when he had sex with darla and this season when he lost his soul the dream was an epifiney in his love for buffy first he and conor made up then he and wess moved pass what happened last year and now he was back with the gang again gunn and fred made up and were happy he and cordillia told each other they loved each other and then when they were having sex angel wasnt loosing his soul somthing wasnt right remember when the showed his he had a look of confussion in his mind he thought whats wrong everything in his dream is perfect then he mentally admitted to himself he dosnt really love cordi he thinks of the one time in life he was ever happy and looses his soul from remembering how perfect it was. as he called out loves name.buffy dosnt love spike romanticly not even close last season she used spike becuse he was a vampire it didnt matter to her how much she hurt him because he was a vampire she didnt have to feel guilty about using him he was evil and that is buffys problem this year now that spike has a soul she feels bad for all of it now and as for angel i think he only tried to make himself believe he loved cordi because it made it easier then dealing with his broken heart i dont know how it will end but there is no way no how that buffy will end with either one of them in love with someone else they will part as lovers and no i dont mean SEX
 
I think everything deoends on the fate of Angel. If it is continued then they still wont be together completely, however if it unfortunately ends, ( I pray it doesn't), then I think there will be a happy ending for Buffy and Angel.

But I love Spike, so I don't know what I want!!!
 
i have the perfect solution well kidnapp JW and im sure we can write a script that makes us both very happy and then i can kill off cordi too because i hate her charactor shes a good actress but i hate the charactor
 
Buffy and Angel are soulmates. Even though they can't have the you-know-what ever again, they share a strong bond. Spike is pathetic. Buffy and Angel will always feel for each other, no matter how far apart they are.

Double Post (next time use the edit button!):

Can somebody tell me more about what happens with Buffy and Angel? There are NO season finale spoilers on the net.
 
you have probubly heard most of what i know so i will give you an abreiviated recap then if you want to know from any of it say with ones or i could probly fill 30 pages i m to discriptive
1.faith dies at th begining of ep.21
2.angel realizes he dosnt love cordi or buffy(ive heard both)
3.dawn dies for buffy sort-of like buffy did for her
4.spike dosnt die but he becomes a non-physical being
5.willow is forced to use her strongest power ever
6.buffy wont die or become a higher being
6.in-order to kill the demond in cordis body they have to kill the bodi but not cordys her soul (she remains a higher being
7.kenedy gets faiths powers
8.giles is asked to be kenedys watcher
9.conor is the one who kills the anti-christ befor it is born (the father shall kill the son)
ive heard a couple of small things too
 
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