News: Dead or Alive?

TheMaster666

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Reports of the death of the newspaper, it turns out, have been greatly exaggerated.

Internet news has traditionally been a convenient, and green, alternative to its older cousin, the newspaper. And unlike cable news, it neither requires a tv subscription, nor is it restricted to certain time slots. It's the most up to date source of information, with 24/7 updates as they happen live.

It's also become one of the most difficult methods to obtain the high quality journalism we used to associate with news. For one, the websites are such an eyesore and a headache to navigate. The photos are gigantic, the text is organized into two lines of paragraph that fit the whole screen, followed by giant picture ad (or blank space if you use adblocker), followed by more of the same. Those awful autoplaying videos are everywhere and always pop up first at the top of the screen, and further still, they follow you down the page, making sure your efforts to avoid them are thwarted. The best part is, the videos they so highly emphasize almost always have nothing to even do with the article in question, or just have someone monotonously narrating the very same words you were trying to read in the first place.

Don't forget the constant paywalls: "You've reached your free article limit," notification banners, subscribe to newsletters, et. al.

After all of that bureaucratic, technocratic, corporate b.s., when you get to the heart of the matter, even the actual journalism itself is a shell of its former self.

I can't be alone in recognizing that every news site invariably focuses on the same handful of topics, every single day of the year. It's always Donald Trump in the headlines, it's always some sort of political race, or it's Taylor Swift. Barring some horrific mass shooting or foreign war erupting, it's the same shit every day of the year. I wish I could blame politics, but I actually love politics, in the truest definition of the word. I enjoy reading and thinking about important issues in the current world, and how different perspectives or new bills/laws seek to address them. It doesn't matter if the opinion put forth agrees or disagrees with your beliefs; as long as it makes a well-reasoned and supported case, it encourages you to think intelligently on the matter, and that's what counts.

I don't ever see that in "politics" online, because politics today, in the context of news journalism, is perpetually rooted in the sports-like contest of political races. "My team" vs "your team." These organizations are following the flawed logic of social media, i.e. picking out whatever is "trending" and simply churning out non-stories that are engineered to tick the boxes and appear in search results for those "trending" topics. That's why there are a million topics about Donald Trump every day of the year, even when there isn't really anything new or newsworthy to say about him necessarily. It's just because his name is provocative enough, in their minds, to generate clicks, whether you hate or love him. (And he is far from the only topic to be treated in this fashion, but he's one of the most obvious to point out).

Furthermore, the authors themselves appear terrified of their own audience. They fear that stories of any sizable length might scare away potential readers, who are assumed to have low attention spans and low intelligence. So, they include labels at the top, re-assuring the reader that the story will only take 2-5 minutes to read. Actually, the time spent is generally less than that, because in most instances, only the first handful of paragraphs actually contain new information. The rest of the article is generally just backstory, patronizingly included in case you are a clueless idiot who's been living under the proverbial rock the past several years. So when readers don't read the full article and "bounce" (return to the previous page), in my opinion, it's more likely that either they encounter the bottom half of the article that is merely repeating what most people already are aware of, or it's because the article itself is one of those aforementioned engineered, non-story articles designed to get clicks by gaming the system with lots of trending names or buzzwords put in. People realize the story isn't as interesting upon clicking as it sounded, then quit. The journalists, however, chalk this up to a dwindling national attention span, rather than acknowledging their own scheming and poorly written stories are at least partly to blame. But, in a hubris-fueled feedback loop, this only heightens their efforts to cater to the perceived lowered attention span, rather than brazenly defying it and giving their readers some credit.

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I say all of that as preamble, because when I do pick up and read an actual newspaper, my experience isn't like the above at all. Obviously, a newspaper is far easier to read and follow, simply due to the medium itself following established, centuries-old conventions on design and style. But there's more to it than that. The kind of stories that are written in my local newspaper feel like the way news is supposed to be, the way I remember it being not too long ago. Actual stories about things that are just happening in the world. Some cop was fired for scandalous, racist text messages, and now the DA is throwing out a number of the cases in which he was the primary investigator. Local cities might not receive promised federal funding they already spent to house the homeless during the pandemic. There's an article about the use of a.i. in dating for Valentine's Day. The Op-Ed section is political discussion in the aforementioned classical sense: a well-reasoned and argued piece on why the bipartisan movement to alter or repeal a 1996 law protecting websites on the internet from liability for the free speech of their users is a mistake.

In short, it seems like normal journalism, in a normal, easy-to-read, no bullshit format.

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It's tempting to dismiss all physical media in an era of digital streaming, etc., but with the increasingly poor quality of internet journalism, and how poorly it pays the media companies who produce it, I think we're due for a resurgence in traditional print news. If vinyl records, CD's, and DVD's are on the rise in popularity again, amidst an admittedly niche but nonetheless sizable pushback against the all-digital trend, I think it's past time the tried and tested newspaper re-emerged as a big player in the journalism world. I want my news to be the news, not a glorified Twitter feed, that's been search engine optimized and delivered mobile-first.

There's an old saying in economics, "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch," or TANSTAFL. The press is increasingly finding that free services don't pay well, and just like the social media companies whose trajectory they now emulate, eventually the quality of the service must lower to the point of reflecting that free entry price. The vacancy they leave behind will create a new demand for services of higher journalistic standards, as others like me get increasingly irate or frustrated at the decrepit state of internet news.
 
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I can't be alone in recognizing that every news site invariably focuses on the same handful of topics, every single day of the year.
The authors bet on that. Churn out the same topics for a paycheck. There are seasons in journalism as much as anything else. They'll have their april stories written by now.

In the last 7 years ALL of my local newsprint papers have shut down. There is one for the city that has expanded into the regions somewhat, 1 regular writer on staff, but all of the little papers that were available here when I moved here, are no longer in business.

I am more addicted to the news than I'd like to be. I check Just In every morning with my cuppa tea on the patio. It doesn't have any of the pop up video rubbish. And has a local section.

I also read The Conversation and The Guardian but it annoys me because some writers are so out of touch and so out of date. Its only now that they are finally changing their tune on the antidepressants which they so heavily pushed for years.

I wouldn't bother buying a print paper ever again, I can gleam the basics online. Im not gona pay for it. Same for paywalls, someone is sure to have copied and pasted it on social media somewhere.
 
The authors bet on that. Churn out the same topics for a paycheck. There are seasons in journalism as much as anything else. They'll have their april stories written by now.

In the last 7 years ALL of my local newsprint papers have shut down. There is one for the city that has expanded into the regions somewhat, 1 regular writer on staff, but all of the little papers that were available here when I moved here, are no longer in business.

I am more addicted to the news than I'd like to be. I check Just In every morning with my cuppa tea on the patio. It doesn't have any of the pop up video rubbish. And has a local section.

I also read The Conversation and The Guardian but it annoys me because some writers are so out of touch and so out of date. Its only now that they are finally changing their tune on the antidepressants which they so heavily pushed for years.

I wouldn't bother buying a print paper ever again, I can gleam the basics online. Im not gona pay for it. Same for paywalls, someone is sure to have copied and pasted it on social media somewhere.

My gripe with paywalls is not that they are in and of themselves an obstacle--just click on the "reader mode" that comes built in to most contemporary browsers and it will usually bypass them--it's more that every "feature" of a news website is designed to be an annoyance. And all those little unnecessary annoyances just add up and become enough of a nuisance as to be not worth the experience. That's why I said you pay one way or another. If not with money, than with an inferior service.
 
I guess it depends on which news sites you're on. I remember skipping over pages and pages of full page ads in newsprint. I agree autoplay is annoying, but the sites I stick to dont tend to have that feature.

The ABC and Guardian do have a few photo articles which can be annoying to scroll through, but some have used quite moving visual imagery to support the narrative like this one -
'I don't want to raise my kids into this': Families left with no choice but to live in tents in the bush
It does give a depth that newsprint couldn't have.
 
Every time I have known the story behind what was reported in the newspapers, the entire thrust of the story was wrong and every single detail was wrong. We have liberal and conservative newspapers that may cover the same story but the emphasis is on totally different things. In a lot of cases, the "facts" are just plain wrong and you get the idea that the reporter was sent to get sound bites that support the editor's political stance. There is no such thing anymore of a reporter being sent to "find out what is going on". The reporter is told what to find. And in many cases, the truth is far more interesting than the reported story, but the truth cannot be allowed to appear in print because the owner of the newspaper has already vetoed it.

Online news is no better. But at least the price is right.
 
The source of news isn't really the biggest problem, there are plenty of great online news sources, the problem is that in the past decade the idea of 'journalism' has become synonymous with 'activism'; not reporting the facts straight but skewing them to fit whatever narrative the writer believes is correct.
Not that there's anything inherently wrong with editorializing to a degree but bias' should be presented front and center instead of claiming that what you're writing is the truth as it actually happened.

A lot of mainstream journalists seemed to have forgotten what their actual job is, and so they have lost the trust of their readers. This has happened with cable news as well. Hence journalist layoffs both in print media and online.

Happily to counter that we have the rise of podcasts, youtube channels with in-depth, long-form videos and (re-liberated) twitter where you can have a plurality of political takes and citizen journalists; the problem there lies in sorting of the quality/biases of the sources involved. But even then there are handy aps that analyse which sites cover which news and what they ignore
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
the US wasn't as bad before but it has been coming on for a very long time. Trump just made everything worse.
The source of news isn't really the biggest problem, there are plenty of great online news sources, the problem is that in the past decade the idea of 'journalism' has become synonymous with 'activism'; not reporting the facts straight but skewing them to fit whatever narrative the writer believes is correct.
That's not the problem, that is a symptom of the problem. There was a time when people wanted news to deliver facts, but that time has passed, and it was longer than a decade ago. Majority of people don't consume news because they want facts, because getting the facts would mean they have to form their own opinions; they consume news to reinforce their existing belief. That's why you have liberal and conservative slants on the news. There hasn't been really unbiased news (here at least) since the 80s.
 
Anyanka Bunny Slayer
Anyanka Bunny Slayer
This is probably one of your best posts. Just saying.
thetopher
thetopher
I guess the UK wasn't as bad as the US until recently.
There was a time when people wanted news to deliver facts, but that time has passed, and it was longer than a decade ago. Majority of people don't consume news because they want facts, because getting the facts would mean they have to form their own opinions; they consume news to reinforce their existing belief. That's why you have liberal and conservative slants on the news. There hasn't been really unbiased news (here at least) since the 80s.
I absolutely agree with this, which is why I bypass 90% of "news." I already know how I feel about certain issues, and I won't be swayed by headlines or trends. Fortunately, there are a FEW news organizations that actually tell the truth about things, though they often end up getting shadow banned or blocked on YouTube. Hmmm.

It really tells you something about the current state of affairs when people are persecuted for telling the truth.
 
@Skanky Vamp : To paraphrase yourself Trump isn't the problem, hie's just another symptom. The problem's with extreme polarization and politicization of your media and institutions started well before him.
I do think him being in office just made things much more obvious/overt.

*sigh* I wish we were still allowed to talk politics here
 
I feel such sadness for the children growing up these days. The world has turned topsy turvy and they're so confused. There's currently an epidemic of Munchausen Syndrome amongst certain American "parents." And their children are suffering because of it. Such a tragedy.

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The problem's with extreme polarization and politicization of your media and institutions started well before him.
No, it didnt. Not to the extreme as it did after his election. There was more of an acceptance of 'this is your stance and this is mine and that's fine', prior to his election. That changed after to 'this is my stance and yours is wrong.'
 
Every time I have known the story behind what was reported in the newspapers, the entire thrust of the story was wrong and every single detail was wrong. We have liberal and conservative newspapers that may cover the same story but the emphasis is on totally different things. In a lot of cases, the "facts" are just plain wrong and you get the idea that the reporter was sent to get sound bites that support the editor's political stance. There is no such thing anymore of a reporter being sent to "find out what is going on". The reporter is told what to find. And in many cases, the truth is far more interesting than the reported story, but the truth cannot be allowed to appear in print because the owner of the newspaper has already vetoed it.

Online news is no better. But at least the price is right.

The goal isn’t to tell the facts.

The goal is to tell people what they want to hear so they keep buying.

It seems like daily there are articles, especially when it comes to special interests like technology, where things are skewed or straight up false. Then you read the actual context and realize the article was nothing more than “clickbait” or “rage bait”
 
I can't be alone in recognizing that every news site invariably focuses on the same handful of topics, every single day of the year. It's always Donald Trump in the headlines, it's always some sort of political race, or it's Taylor Swift. Barring some horrific mass shooting or foreign war erupting, it's the same shit every day of the year.
You're absolutely not alone in that respect. I am SO tired of the way that many "news" outlets are basically fanning the flames of divisiveness and fear. Its as though someone behind the scenes is orchestrating this. Almost like they want people to panic and not think clearly about matters. Most of the headlines we see are so negative and exasperating, it's unbelievable.

If I see an article that mentions ANY politician, the Ukraine, Israel, or the latest celebrity who's been cancelled for an "unacceptable" opinion, I don't read it. I already know it's going to piss me off, so why bother? We already know the world is going down the toilet, and I see no reason to make it worse by constantly reading about it.

Fun fact: When I was younger, the only reason I even had a newspaper subscription was so I'd know what day it was. It's rather difficult to remember what day it is when you've been visiting the moons of Jupiter. 😅
 
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You're absolutely not alone in that respect. I am SO tired of the way that many "news" outlets are basically fanning the flames of divisiveness and fear. Its as though someone behind the scenes is orchestrating this. Almost like they want people to panic and not think clearly about matters. Most of the headlines we see are so negative and exasperating, it's unbelievable.

If I see an article that mentions ANY politician, the Ukraine, Israel, or the latest celebrity who's been cancelled for an "unacceptable" opinion, I don't read it. I already know it's going to piss me off, so why bother? We already know the world is going down the toilet, and I see no reason to make it worse by constantly reading about it.

Fun fact: When I was younger, the only reason I even had a newspaper subscription was so I'd know what day it was. It's rather difficult to remember what day it is when you've been visiting the moons of Jupiter. 😅

My guess is, the news outlets don't intentionally try to sway people's opinions as part of some grand conspiracy (well maybe some of the more extreme slanted ones like Fox News, MSNBC, etc. do), but they just recognize what topics are the most controversial and thus most likely to provoke a response and get you to want to click, so they find certain, predictable narratives very profitable to push.

In fairness, negativity has always dominated the headlines. Nobody really cares to read news that says, "Everything is fine and normal, don't worry," because that's the assumed default. It's redundant to say that. In fact, some news outlets like to throw in a feel-good piece at the end of the daily news, just to combat the daily negativity, and what do I do? I tune out at that point, because I know it's just a fluff piece and not real news. So that negativity is probably consumer-driven.

At least in the west, when you get cancelled by Twitter mobs of idiots, you only get fired at worst. In Russia, if you speak any opinion at all Czar Putin doesn't like, you get sent to the gulag for life, which will probably not be very long.


Moons of Jupiter, huh? Sci-fi nerd or indulged some psychedelics? Little of both?
 
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