Normal Again

Fair enough, but I'm allowed an opinion.

My opinion is based on the summary of Slayer interupted by Lyri. She said that Dawn read buffy's diary which ultimately got her in a mental institution. The fact that Dawn didnt exsist before season Five and that characters memories(and many of the comics) show what would've happened if Dawn had exsisted before season five.

Thats why I feel that it didnt actually happen and was a 'implanted' memory.

I didnt really understand your point. but it was something to do with dawn because as it happened she wasnt in this 'institution world'.
 
the monks didn't just 'invent' memories. they inserted Dawn into the memories already in existence, apart from her birth, Dawn was just inserted into the memories Buffy and the gang already had. they reworked old memories to include Dawn, this could mean that, in a world without Dawn, Buffy went into the Hospital anyway, but when the monks created Dawn, they revised the memory to have it include Dawn.
 
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Edmund Blackadder
This is in regards to the neg i gave.....it wasn't supposed to be neg....so this makes it up...sorry
This episode really got me thinking and I think it's a depressing storyline.

It kind of made me doubt the whole series entirely but then again, I remember that Sunnydale is real.

What I'm trying to say is that Normal Again got me thinking if Sunnydale was actually just a delusion or if it indeed was the mental instatution.

When it came down to it, I know it was the mental institution in fact. Still though, that episode got me thinking. It was well written.
 
Definitely one of my favourite episodes. It nearly made me cry. The best aprt is that it's something nearly everyone thinks about, mostly half-seriously, but that what if none of this is real? Movies like The Matrix and The Truman Show already presented these questions, but this was another interesting take on the whole thing. And the way it's handled so ambiguously is great - even if it was a figment, it wouldn't matter. The message was that it doesn't matter if this is all an illusion. Buffy is who she is, and if that's a crazy person, so be it. But if it means she really is a slayer in a fantasy-like world, even better.
 
I watched the episode with a feeling of "What if". Joyce believed and most importanly wanted to know her daughter far more than Buffy's father ever wanted. That's, I think, why they got divorced. There is a "problem kid"; burning down high school gym and etc and one of her parents chooses the hard way to reconcile and get to her. It was Joyce. What if she didn't want to do it? That episode portrayed that.
 
i think it was a good episode and it definately got me thinking and it leaves you with the nagging feeling of what if it isnt real.you can understand Buffy hurting her friends as she was being torn from one reality to another trying to figure out what was real and what wasnt, and if you had been in a world where all you seem to have is loss then you'd want to believe that even though you were in a mental home it was still the real world because your parents were together and there had been no loss.

all in all i think it was a good episode,especially because Willow managed to come through for Buffy and get that antedote (spelling) even though she was going through her own stuff and she did it without using magic,which was good.
 
This seemed like an open-ended episode. The ending seemed like huh?
The geeks showed up for a few seconds here and there but not much airplay for them. It seemed like the demon that stabbed Buffy was made by the geeks, but Willow found a picture of it?
Mostly I didn't get the ending of it.
 
[CC, I merged your thread with an older "Normal Again"-thread, please check for existing threads before you start a new one.]

They summoned the demon, they didn't invent it 😉

The point of the episode wasn't to show that the nerds were evil, or what they were capable of. The episode had nothing to do with the nerds, they were only an excuse to make a really interesting episode...
 
eponinethen said:
The point of the episode wasn't to show that the nerds were evil, or what they were capable of. The episode had nothing to do with the nerds, they were only an excuse to make a really interesting episode...
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Probably one of the most interesting eps ever IMO...which was the real reality? Good for us that Buffy chose Sunnydale 'cos "Buffy the Mental Patient" doesn't have quite as much to interest me 🙂
 
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eponinethen
Definitely agree, make me feel really uncomfortable, seeing how Buffy acted but also understanding exactly why etc. Great ep..
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Frenchy Faith
Yup yup I totally agree.. it's even the most brilliant epi of the whole show to me
Bored of the Dead said:
I bet it would if Angelina Jolie, Brittany Murphy and (for me personally) Whoopi Goldberg(grrr) were there!!!!
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What about Winona Ryder and Clea Duvall (not saying she's hotter than Angelina but but but she's Clea!).. heh..

Then again, I choose Eliza over all of them any day, so, I'm glad Buffy chose Sunnydale too 😉
 
I loved this episode, very underrated..sadly I kind of enjoyed her beating up Xander..its one of those things that just lingers in your mind, is life itself just a dream? Love the episode.
 
Yup and it's just crazy how Joss put everything in questions. It's like he wanna show us that his dimension with vampires can be considered as complete craziness so he put our "faith" in the show in jeopardy and yet he knows that when B will make the choice to stay in Sunnydale, we'll be relieved about this choice... we cannot know which of her life is the "real" one but we don't really care because it's this vampire world we wanna be into. Meanwhile we could think it kinda makes us supporters of schizophrenia and of living an imaginary life.. trying to escape reality... but again it's not really what it is as we can see in all the discussion on the forum... as long as you get the metaphores and like look at the show from a different than 1st degree point of view... right?
 
I don't think the point of this episode is to question which "reality" is real. In my mind(lol) I think the point is for the viewer to question their own reality.

Is your reality, actually "reality", or are you(YES I MEAN YOU) in a mental institution, in a straitjacket, rocking back and forth in a chair, all the while drooling from each corner of your mouth?

Crazy doesn't know it. Are you actually sitting at a computer, reading these words, or am I just a ghostie of your delusional mind(you wish)?

I guess, as an aside, it acts the question, "what is reality?"
 
One issue that bugs me is when Buffy tells Willow that she (Buffy) had indeed been in a mental ward for a period of time because her parents thought she was wacko for talking about vamps and whatever else.

To me, that alone would be a very important time to discover and perhaps showing a bit more of that period of her life would give folks a deeper insight to the show and its main character.
For those that know my earlier posts, I complain BtVs doesn't really have a backstory to work from other than the movie with Kristy Swanson.
This mental ward time would have been perfect to explore a bit more, eh?
 
I don't think so, I mean I would rather see how the character moves forward then how they got where they were when they start the series, It's kinda unnecessary. What's more important is seeing the big times in Buffy's life, like Her relationship with Angel, Her mothers Death and her own death and see how develop the character. It gives the story a bit more if we actually see the development then go this is what happened in my past, and here's how I have grown from it.
 
i agree with black eye guy. also, if there had been a backstory from the start, there wouldnt be room for the creation of such a story as this. you would know that buffy was never in a hospital ward, cause joss hadnt chosen that in the beginning, and then he could never write about how she was. the fact that things are left open left more room to add surprises and things we never knew about.
 
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