Obesity

Do you see what's on tv these days? Just because something is on tv it doesn't make it right.

Well considering BBC news which comes from the most respected broadcaster in the world uses it, I'd think it's fine. PLUS as they are retarded anyway they won't understand what you call them, if you call them Chickens they don't mind do they? They don't know what's going on! Anyway this is off topic, I've not called anyone a retard or a mental so it doesn't matter. It's not part of the discussion.

Back to the fatties, you'll see if you look back in the thread that I have actually offered a few of them some great advice to help get them out of it. If you'd like my help I'm willing to offer you some personal advice on the matter too regarding diet etc. Feel free to ask- I'm happy to help, my friend 🙂
 
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Big Damn Hero
I work with children with learning difficulties and SEN and they WOULD understand what you're saying. I used to quite like you until this post.
Well considering BBC news which comes from the most respected broadcaster in the world uses it, I'd think it's fine. PLUS as they are retarded anyway they won't understand what you call them, if you call them Chickens they don't mind do they? They don't know what's going on! Anyway this is off topic, I've not called anyone a retard or a mental so it doesn't matter. It's not part of the discussion.

Back to the fatties, you'll see if you look back in the thread that I have actually offered a few of them some great advice to help get them out of it. If you'd like my help I'm willing to offer you some personal advice on the matter too regarding diet etc. Feel free to ask- I'm happy to help, my friend 🙂

First part: Wrong. The definition of "retard" is slow or delayed. Slang made the word also become an insult.

Mental Retardation is different; it's a diagnosed disorder. Also, it doesn't make it right to insult someone especially when they're unaware that you're insulting them. Honestly, I'm not saying this about YOU, but plenty of people insult the mentally retarded or autistic (and more) simply to be manipulative and cruel. They can't defend themselves. A great book dealing with that is Flowers for Algernon.

But anyhow, that's very off-topic. 🙂

Back on obesity: Another main cause is the greediness of the food industry. Sizes are upped extremely often; what was once the Small soda at the movies no longer even exists. Servings at restaurants are huge, way larger than necessary, and those lovely "Upgrade for just 50 cents!" offers don't help. Furthermore, many people such as myself feel compelled to finish their food, even if they're already full. After all, our economy is pretty bad right now, no one wants to waste.
 
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Christopher
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Well considering BBC news which comes from the most respected broadcaster in the world uses it, I'd think it's fine. PLUS as they are retarded anyway they won't understand what you call them, if you call them Chickens they don't mind do they? They don't know what's going on! Anyway this is off topic, I've not called anyone a retard or a mental so it doesn't matter. It's not part of the discussion.

Back to the fatties, you'll see if you look back in the thread that I have actually offered a few of them some great advice to help get them out of it. If you'd like my help I'm willing to offer you some personal advice on the matter too regarding diet etc. Feel free to ask- I'm happy to help, my friend 🙂

You just don't get it, do you?

It doesn't matter if you were nice, the world you just used up there, fatties is disrespectful, sounds hard and very offensive. Look how Ori used 'back to obesity'. And no, thank you, I don't need any kind of help.
 
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prophecygrrl
You go, PB! :D
I think a lot of the reason why people gain weight is due to mental difficulties or lack of motivation. I know when I was depressed I ate loads of junk food and barely left the house, if I didn't have a fast metabolism I probably would have gained a lot of weight. If the motivation to move and leave the house isn't there, then you have to do something to make you feel like you're doing something, so you eat. Maybe for comfort, maybe because you're bored or maybe because you're overtired or suffering from stress, I definitely think that for some it's linked to your mental health.

As far as scales go, I agree that it can be very unhealthy to use them too much. I haven't weighed myself in years as my grandmother used to weigh me when I was younger and called me fat. I'm now half the size I was, but the negative association is still there so I don't weigh myself, and as far as my body confidence goes I'm fairly happy. I go by how I feel or whether I can fit into my jeans easily or not. I think if you're constantly fixated on a number then you lose sight of how you actually feel in yourself.

Whoa sorry for the essay 😛
 
The thing is, as with most mental health problems (in which eating disorders are included), that a lot of people still have the "snap out of it and you'll be fine" attitude. I witness it a lot with my flatmate, who suffers regular bouts of actual clinical depression (when she's really bad, she won't get up for days). I try to help her as much as I can, but there's only so much you can do, and after a while I get resentful (because the flat's a bombsite and I have to worry about bills and the rent.. you get the idea) and I find myself thinking she should get a grip and sort herself out. As I said... if only it were that simple. My roomie is the lovliest person when she's feeling good, but she once told me that when she's depressed it feels like she's imprisoned in her own body; she knows there's a way out but she can't find it, all she can do is wait until it presents itself. I don't want to imply that my problem is anywhere near as bad (that would be impertinent and preposterous), but I can absolutely relate to that feeling. I know what I do is wrong and unhealthy, but the compulsion is so strong that I forget all my reasoning. The only thing that keeps me sane is that I know it's a phase that will pass.

Thank you for this post. I think it's atrocious the way eating disorders are treated in society. As if it's something people choose it out of "stupidity", or that they choose it at all. People who suffer from bulimia, OCE, anorexia, and other kinds of disordered eating deserve HELP, not condemnation.
 
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Christopher
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I want to lose a few pounds. My problem however is 1) lack of motivation which is caused by 2) lack of patience. I am ridiculously impatient and after a few days, if I see no progress, I have absolutely no motivation to continue with exercise.
 
Okay, everyone, I'm sorry but I need to call a time out and step in here.

Let us all remember that using derogatory terms here on the board is not welcome. And making derogatory comments about other members is even more unwelcome.

Also, let's remember that none of us (as far as I'm aware, and please if you are one feel free to qualify your posts as such) are licensed therapists or dietitians/nutritionists and it is not appropriate to post as if we are.

Carry on, in a less hurtful manner please.
 
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Big Damn Hero
Thank you :)
Abbeycat
Abbeycat
Thank you.
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GrrArghx
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I am a Buddhist. Most Buddhists are vegetarians. When I go to temple, it is amazing that there are NO overweight members.

The US government subsidizes the meat industry. Corn is subsidized to produce feed for cattle. Meat in the US is dirt cheap. Health food is not.

Being a vegetarian means I can't eat 99 cent bacon cheeseburgers. It also means that people who earn minimum wage, or are on welfare, can't afford to eat portobello burgers.

Although I am a vegetarian for religious reasons, I believe that man was made to eat a bit of meat. We should be eating like Asians, who eat lots of rice and vegetables, and very little meat. We were not made to eat a 16 oz steak in one sitting.

Meat is evil for so many reasons. But for a purely selfish reason, it is evil because is contributes to obesity, especially for those near poverty level.

"Fast Food Nation" is an amazing book (totally different from the movie of the same name). So is "Diet for a New Planet."

While we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts, how can we expect any ideal conditions on this earth? George Bernard Shaw

I'm proud to say that my son and I are not living graves of murdered lives.
 
Being a vegetarian means I can't eat 99 cent bacon cheeseburgers. It also means that people who earn minimum wage, or are on welfare, can't afford to eat portobello burgers.

I agree that most of the healthy foods options are more expensive making it harder for some people to eat a healthy and balanced diet.

Reading you post reminded me of my old roomie, she was vegetarian and was overweight; she practically lived off of Twinkies and pasta. Her reason for being vegetarian was because she felt meat was unhealthy, but she said she couldn't afford to eat much meat alternatives and produce so her diet ended up being almost entirely carbs.
 
I agree that most of the healthy foods options are more expensive making it harder for some people to eat a healthy and balanced diet.

Reading you post reminded me of my old roomie, she was vegetarian and was overweight; she practically lived off of Twinkies and pasta. Her reason for being vegetarian was because she felt meat was unhealthy, but she said she couldn't afford to eat much meat alternatives and produce so her diet ended up being almost entirely carbs.

Oh no!! Vegetarian Myth Number One----- Carbs make you fat!

One large potato has about 275 calories. That's really not much. It's the bad stuff that's added on it, like sour cream, cheese, and/or bacon, that make it fattening.

But french fries, onion rings, Twinkies, and alfredo sauce are all vegetarian, and very, very bad for you. There are plenty of fat vegetarians, and plenty of bad vegetarian food.
 
caitaintdead
caitaintdead
TOTALLY agree with all of this.
brinkster130
brinkster130
I agree, its not so much the carbs that pack the calories, but what a lot of people put on the carbs...like cheese, sour cream, butter etc. etc.
I agree that most of the healthy foods options are more expensive making it harder for some people to eat a healthy and balanced diet.

Reading you post reminded me of my old roomie, she was vegetarian and was overweight; she practically lived off of Twinkies and pasta. Her reason for being vegetarian was because she felt meat was unhealthy, but she said she couldn't afford to eat much meat alternatives and produce so her diet ended up being almost entirely carbs.

That reminds me of a friend of mine, too. She basically did the same, and she became anemic after going vegetarian because she didn't supplement her diet well enough. I think it all goes back to making healthy and smart choices about food (if you are able to that is, financially and otherwise), whether you're a meat-eater or a veggie. Know the limitations of your choice of diet, what your body can handle, etc.
 
I want to lose a few pounds. My problem however is 1) lack of motivation which is caused by 2) lack of patience. I am ridiculously impatient and after a few days, if I see no progress, I have absolutely no motivation to continue with exercise.

I know what you mean, I've totally been in your shoes, hell I'm still having those days even though I know that I'm making good progress.

It's a cliche but I really do agree with the idea of "It took months, maybe even years, of neglecting your body to be in the shape that you're in, so you're not going to lose it in a matter of weeks."

A few tips I would give is take weekly photo graphs of yourself. They really are a great way of keeping yourself motivated. As others have said, don't obsess over weighing scales. Looking in the mirror it's clear that I'm losing weight but if I jumped on the scale it'd tell me that I'm not losing weight (I'm replacing fat with muscle). Also, surround yourself with positive people. People have no idea about how thoughtless their remarks can be and it can knock your confidence. So try to be around people who'll only encourage you. Finally, let those closest to you that you're making aconcious effort to shift the pounds. This way, they'll know not to tempt you by asking you if you want to get a take away or something.

You can do it. It just takes a bit of preparation and a regime.
 
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EvilBuffy
Thank you for the tips! :)
I want to lose a few pounds. My problem however is 1) lack of motivation which is caused by 2) lack of patience. I am ridiculously impatient and after a few days, if I see no progress, I have absolutely no motivation to continue with exercise.

I know how you feel. I see a difference on my body NOW, after being on a diet since April. Believe me, you *have* to be patient.. You are gonna feel the difference. Just be careful, please. I ended up having an eating disorder.. So have patience, and have a healthy relationship with food 😀
 
Back on obesity: Another main cause is the greediness of the food industry. Sizes are upped extremely often; what was once the Small soda at the movies no longer even exists. Servings at restaurants are huge, way larger than necessary, and those lovely "Upgrade for just 50 cents!" offers don't help. Furthermore, many people such as myself feel compelled to finish their food, even if they're already full. After all, our economy is pretty bad right now, no one wants to waste.

I was at the grocery store today and I couldn't stop thinking about how it is so easy to drive up and get the most unhealthy food in this country yet its very difficult to find healthy food. There is 1 isle out of 30 in that store. I'm a rather lazy person so I like easy to prepare or get food, meaning healthy food isnt an option. I wish someone could come up with a nice fast food type place thats healthy, and not just for people who want to lose weight. Just people who want to live longer and feel better.
 
One of my resolutions for 2011 is to try cutting out carbs. I'm a vegetarian, so it's gonna be difficult (it already is, bloody cravings!), but I have bought a book that assures me it's possible. I'm not overweight, but I'm in my mid-twenties and my metabolism is starting to slow down, so I have put on a bit of a muffin top which I'd like to lose. I've been doing crunches for about a year now and it doesn't really help, so something's gotta give.
 
One of my resolutions for 2011 is to try cutting out carbs. I'm a vegetarian, so it's gonna be difficult (it already is, bloody cravings!), but I have bought a book that assures me it's possible. I'm not overweight, but I'm in my mid-twenties and my metabolism is starting to slow down, so I have put on a bit of a muffin top which I'd like to lose. I've been doing crunches for about a year now and it doesn't really help, so something's gotta give.

Crunches are only really effective in combination with cardio as far as the battle of the bulge goes. Depends on desired results of course but cardio in its varying intensities is pretty much the thing to put some focus on 🙂
 
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mayfever
I go for runs 2-3 times a week, does that count as cardio?
mayfever agrees: I go for runs 2-3 times a week, does that count as cardio?

Certainly does, for an extra boost I would at one of those times add some high intensity intervals to the run. Doing it for short intervals will help you with an accumulative amount of higher heart rate zones which will heighten your EPOC effects 🙂
 
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mayfever
thanks! I'll try that and report back!
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