Off With Their Heads! what shows should go.

DarkNova

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what WB shows should have gotten the ax instead of Angel (besides "everything")

my list:
the surreal life
7th heaven
and onetree hill
 
One Tree Hill
7th Heaven
The Surreal Life
Everwood
Steve Harvey's Big Time
Should I name more...
 
smallville
7th heaven-it became dumb about 3 seasons ago
one tree hill
gilmore girls
 
I nominate Enterprise after 2 plus seasons of one of the all around worst shows ever I am getting ill, can T'pol be any less a Vulcan? Can Archer be anyless spineless? Can the ship be anyless a piece of flying metal scrap?
 
yo...i don't know bout you doc...but last week's episode with the brawl and the tucker hittin pol was like the best ep so far probably the best one ever in that series..

i just need one of the wb shows to go..so fearless can finally get shown...when is that show going to start...i wanna see rlc...

lol...smallville is so falkin boring now...same old shiz...i don't even care...cause in the end...nothing happens to clark...nothing happens between clark and lana like them gettin down...so that show is just falkin static...i wish lex was more chaotic...add a dynamic element that the show doesn't have...i wish clark would kill someone...cause there is no way a teenager with that kind of power would be as enlightened and forgiving as he is...and they gotta make lana cooler...more anything...ahhhhhhhhh...that show had so much potential but now its season 3 and it falkin sucks...damn it...
 
Anything 'Celebrity' they're so crud (to put it in the nicest way possible) and boring and no offence to people who watch them but they're mainly so people can gawp at celebrities and laugh at them, even though they want to become like them.

Wrestling in its entirity should be banished from this earth.

Cant think of more atm
 
There are lots and lots, but the worst ones would have to be any of the reality shows, and deffinately One Tree Hill.
 
7th Heaven
Gilmore Girls
The Surreal Life
Everwood


btw,Dark Shadows shouldn't start,it is all its fault,.stupid soap opera!..damn WB!
 
I've never watched anything on the WB mentioned so far by anyone except "Enterprise", which I stopped watching after the first season. I definitely won't be watching "Dark Shadows"...it was a cheesy, crappy soap opera with acting to match...it sure as hell won't be better 20+ yrs later! Cancel anything to do with millionaires, bachelors, dating, or anything with the word "extreme" (with any of its spellings). It's all crap, and they cancel a show that is probably one of the best ever...
 
Dark Shadows doesn't have anything to do with cancelling Angel...the one from the 90s was really good.

SG - Fearless is not going to be shown as they couldn't nail down a writer.
 
Buffy Summers said:
Dark Shadows doesn't have anything to do with cancelling Angel...the one from the 90s was really good.

SG - Fearless is not going to be shown as they couldn't nail down a writer.
Yeah right, I'm betting it has everything to do with the cancellation... well... maybe not everything, but it will have played a role. Having a new other supernatural drama makes the choice to cancel the old one a little easier.
 
And what is Charmed if not a supernatural drama? lol

It's much harder to get an audience for a new show than for an existing one with a fanbase, so it would be illogical for them to nix an established show for a new one if that was all they were looking for.

I think there is a lot of misplaced anger here - it would be better to argue that the cancellation is a bad decision rather than pointing the finger at other shows as the cause...
 
ah..every show on the WB should be cancelled before Angel was..but the ones that really should go:

7th Heaven
The Surreal Life
Steve Harvey's Big Time

Prio said:
Uhh.... you don't even want to get me started on this one. I think the more logical question is' which shows shouldn't get the axe?

Hm..this IS the better question!
 
I say 7th Heaven, The Surreal Life, Steve Harvey's Big Time, ANYTHING on the WB Thursday (not to mention anything with that stupid "fake wb guy" announcer), and most of all, One Tree Hill. One Tree Hill may have a lot of fans but they can just watch porn and a soap opera with picture in picture and it'll be the same thing. Neither one have a plot!

I'm so happy that they finally cancelled Tarzan and still pissed at them for cancelling Black Sash. This is a little off-topic but seeing as we're talking about the WB, would you like to see another new supernatural drama (maybe to replace Angel) after Charmed intead of this crap they've bee trying to give us lately? Because I know I would.
 
Buffy Summers said:
it would be illogical for them to nix an established show (Angel) for a new one (Dark Shadows) if that was all they were looking for.

I agree. It is illogical. Canceling Angel in the first place is illogical.



Quoted from the "City of Angel website:ANGEL outperformed "The West Wing," "King of Queens" and "Becker" in the time period to rank #3 among persons 12-34 (2.0/5) and men 12-34 (2.1/6). The series defeated both CBS and NBC in women 12-34 (1.9/5) and female teens (1.8/5). ANGEL also posted year-to-year gains in all 12-34 and teen demos as well as among adults 18-34 (up +6%) and men 18-34 (up +27%). WHY CANCEL??????

Five unusual things have happened in the last year, regarding this issue.

1. Jordan Levin has taken over as CEO of Warner Brothers.

2. Warner Brothers has been pressuring ME to make changes in the Angel format.

3. Warner Bros. decided to bring out another vampire series next season (Dark Shadows). They hid this information from Joss until the last minute. He discovered it from the media, and was quite surprised.

4. TNT bought the rerun rights to Angel.

5. Warner Brothers cancelled Angel.

Now allow me to put all five of these things together for you, to explain how the conspiracy theory goes - Dark Shadows has everything to do with Angel being canceled.

Jordan Levin has been rising in the ranks of the WB for the last ten years. He has made his reputation with a hands on approach to creative content. Ideally executives don't do this in a creative business. They deal exclusively with business decisions.

You can see Levin's MO most clearly with the Series Charmed. The suckup who runs Charmed has admitted to Levin's increasing involvement over the last 3 years. Is there anyone who's been watching Charmed, who can't see Charmed has been dumming down over the last 3 years.

Levin's reputation is he can get the younger, mainstream audience. Apparently dumming down scripts is how he's decided to do it.

Now along comes Joss Whedon. I'd be willing to bet Levin has been watching the Buffy/Angel franchise from the fringes over the last 10 years, anxious to get his greasy fingers in there, and mess with the creative content. Up until now though Joss has been protected by higher ups in the WB organization.

Levin gets in as CEO, and one of the first things he does is he hesitates on signing Angel for a Season 5, even though the numbers measured against similar series would seem to demand Angel be signed.

He puts pressure on ME, telling them he will sign Angel, if they make changes to the format. ME reluctantly complies.

About the time of the 100th episode Levin came out with a comment suggesting he and Joss would be talking about the future direction of Angel.

At about the same time WB announces it has plans for another vampire series put out by a well known production team.

Shortly after this Levin announces he is canceling Angel.

Now assuming this is all part of a connected strategy, we would have to assume Levin has a problem. What if another network snatches up Angel, and runs it opposite WB's vampire show. Does anyone doubt Angel would kill it.

Here's the solution to that. TNT buys the rerun rights. Another network is reluctant to buy an existing series, unless they own the rerun rights.

TNT and Warner Bros are sister networks. They are both owned by the same conglomerate. It's not unreasonable to assume Levin has at least used his connections to check into the TNT's willingness to pick up Angel, and if so would they program it against Dark Shadows. He may even have used his influence to organize the purchase of Angel's rerun rights by TNT.

OK...now I admit this is all just a conspiracy theory, but until it's shown to be implausible based on superior logic, I'm going to say "Boycott Dark Shadows".
 
K
Kindred
Excellent reasearch and great deductions, glad to see someone else who sees through the WB's Bullsh!t
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