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So this kicks off the multi-episode arc, with Darla giving birth. Pretty good so far, can't

wait to see how Holtz will fit in. Been told this s/l is one of the series best.
 
Love this scene with Angel and Wes.
Angel: ''wes, lets get on this''
Wes: ''what do you suggest''
Angel: ''i suggest you uh, use your books and find out whats goin on, do i have to think of everything''
Wes: (picks up random book and opens random page)
''oh here it is, it says i have absolutely no idea whats going on'' lmfao. Wes=hilarious 🙂

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On another note, Cordy. She annoyed me so much, Taking Darlas side through this episode, all because Angel slept with her. How weak of her. Get a grip Cordy, Shes a friggin vampire you dozy cow. Then when(predictably) Darla attacks her she holds up a lame little cross like ''oh, your going to keep your distance'', as if thats gonna stop Darla kicking her skank ass.

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Anyway, apart from Cordys usual arrogance and idiocy, i really liked this episode 🙂
 
I love the beginning of this episode when Angel's acting all weird and uncomfortable around Cordelia. 😀
 
And this is when I stopped liking season 3!
I just felt this entire storyline was so boring. I really liked Connor but the build up just felt so dragged out.
I know a hell of a lot of people think it's amazing, just seemed slow to me.
 
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Kinda agree. I liked all 5 seasons but the 1st two and a half were much better.
I love this episode, I love Dangel, and I love the Dangel pregnancy but I hate Connor and Holtz. It seemed like Connor just ruined the whole show. Like a more extensive and annoying Dawn. I love that Angel and Darla had a miracle baby, but I think that they should have done something different with it. Overall, pretty funny epi though.
 
So if Saijhan is a time travel demon why didnt he just teleport Holtz to around 1996 when Angel was weak, eating rats on the streets of NY? Why wait till Connors just about to be born and Angels much more formidable?
 
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So if Saijhan is a time travel demon why didnt he just teleport Holtz to around 1996 when Angel was weak, eating rats on the streets of NY? Why wait till Connors just about to be born and Angels much more formidable?


Because it wouldn't make very good TV!


Actually I just figured out a good reason. Sahjhan was a time traveler but not all knowing... so perhaps the only time Sahjhan knew for certain when Angel would be somewhere specifically was when the prophecy he read said Connor would be born. There were no prophecies stating that on Aug. 25 1977 Angel would be at 53rd and Lexington eating rats behind Grey's Papaya, but there were prophecies stating that Connor would be born in LA on that date and his father would be the vampire with a soul.

So Sahjhan just went to the one place he was certain to find Angel and tried to get him there.
 
OFFSPRING

The Good;
Season 3 really kicks into high gear with the arrival of Darla and her 'passenger'.

The Bad;
?

Best line:
CC; "What are friends for?"
Darla; "Knocking you up and leaving you high and dry"
Just beating Lorne's "It's beyond my Ken and my Barbie and all my action figures"

Jeez, how did they get away with that?
Cordy describes Angel as not going evil but 'going male' which is positively misandrist.

Apocalypses: 5

Angel Cliches

Inverting the Hollywood cliche;
Darla the pregnant mother is still pure evil, defying all our expectations

In disguise; 8

DB get's his shirt off; 12

Cordy's tattoo; 9

Cheap Angel; 7

Fang Gang in bondage:
Cordy: 5
Angel: 11
Wes: 6
Gunn; 3
Lorne; 2

Fang gang knocked out:
Cordy: 11
Angel: 14
Wes: 5
Doyle; 1
Gunn; 1
Lorne; 2

Kills:
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons
Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons.

Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 2
Gunn; 1
Wes; 1

Alternate Fang Gang:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 7

Characters killed:
45

Recurring characters killed;
7;

Total number of Angel Investigations:
5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred

Angel Investigations shot:
Angel: 11
Wes; 1

Packing heat; Wes takes the pistol from the scroll owner
Wes; 4
Doyle; 1
Angel; 1
Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:
Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde

Kinky dinky:
Wes refers to the date rape drugs GHB/rohypnol. CC refers to the Furies as Angel's 'chippies' and hopes they're on the pill. CC refers to Angel 'boning' Darla.

Captain Subtext;
The Kyrumption subtext between CC and Angel finally comes to the fore but Darla's arrival puts a spanner in the works. Darla seems appalled by the world suggesting her baby is already giving her a soul.

Know the face, different character; 4
Jack Conley as Sahjhan, also played the werewolf hunter Cain in the Buffy season 2 ep Phases

Parking garages;
5,

Guantanamo Bay;

Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

Questions and observations;
Hang on everybody, we're going for a hell of a ride! Holst appears to be a Catholic which is ironic given that he's based on Oliver Cromwell who was markedly anti-Catholic despite being largely regarded as a champion of liberty. Gunn is a great juggler, I wonder if he was taught by the same person as Buffy in 'Hell's Bells'?
Marks out of 10; 8/10
 
I hate Dawn... I know I'm going to hate Connor. Back when I (don't remember) watching Angel when it first aired I do remember really not liking the whole pregnancy deal. Still haven't changed my opinion on that. lol
 
I hate Dawn... I know I'm going to hate Connor. Back when I (don't remember) watching Angel when it first aired I do remember really not liking the whole pregnancy deal. Still haven't changed my opinion on that. lol

How can you hate the Dawnster? She's what the Buffyverse is all about
 
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