News Please Read: Change in Board Staff

[Buffy Summers]

It is a very sad day for me personally and for the board itself, as both Lyri and Kean have turned in their resignations.

And I'd just like to take this opportunity to say, to all of those people who thought it was cool, or funny, or made them some big "rebel", to take pot shots at the staff at every opportunity. Who thought that it was great to make nasty personal comments aimed at Lyri and Kean. To all of you out there, well done. You got what you wanted.

So, in addition to losing two of the hardest working and most dedicated members of the staff (and the board), you have now lost the people who were in charge of the following projects:

Graphics Survivor
The BB Store
A BB Wiki
Styles
Art Tutorials
Season 8 Recaps
The Banner Makers' List
Buffy News posting
Season 8 discussion threads
Buffy Screencaps
Fanfic Marathons
Ask Keith Szarabakja
Ask Georges Jeanty

Most of these will probably not happen anymore now. Not to mention that we've now lost their help on:

RPGs
The Wishverse
Fan Clubs

So, I hope you all are happy that you ran the "big bad mods" off the site. Because all you did was ruin a lot of fun for all of your fellow members. Woo hoo - you guys are fantastic.

But be forewarned. Any shred of leniency I had left is now gone. I pledged that we wouldn't lose any more mods because of how members were allowed to treat them. And well, it's happened twice-over. So don't expect me to take your special circumstances into account any longer. I don't care if you had a bad day at work, or you flunked Algebra, or you ran out of peanut butter this morning. I am so done.

People who are hurtful have no place here. And we are so close to the day when I will have to ban people for real for the good of the board. If you don't want that to happen, I suggest you grow up, and find some other way to get your jollies than hurting people. Because I am done being nice about this whole mess. I am done allowing people to use my site who turn around and badmouth me and my staff.

I lost two friends today because I've tried to give the people here more than their fair share of second chances. But those second chances have been simply thrown back into my face.

So, you want the mods to be more lenient? Earn it. Show that you can act like a bloody human being without us forcing you to do it. Because right now, we can't be lenient. We can't just "let things go". Things will change around here, one way or another.

This is your wake up call. What you choose to do with it, is up to you. But I am not dealing with this kind of shit anymore.

 

[Clem Rocks]

We have a BB Wiki? 😵

And doesn't Pointy do the Ask projects too?

 

[Fusions2]

Oh my god this absolutely awful I am so sorry we have suddenly lost Lyri and Kean, I may not have known them but I thought they were excellent as mod's on here. They made such a great little double act and to suddenly read this is shocking. I can completely see where your coming from Buffy, after all the past crap and then to have to have announce this. Its definitely a very peace of sad and shocking news.

 

[Buffy Summers]

We have a BB Wiki? 😵

Not now we don't. Kean was working on one.

And doesn't Pointy do the Ask projects too?

Lyri was our contact for Keith and Georges. So now that she's gone we've lost that as well.

 

[Clem Rocks]

Damn, a BB Wiki would have been cool. D=

 

[Kean]

First off Buffy, you haven't lost a friend. No matter what we will always be friends, at least in my eyes. I really want to stress that point hun because you Faith and the rest of the staff mean a great deal to me and the last thing I want you thinking is that this means the end.

I don't want to get into a big thing here so I'll say what I have to say real quick. I love this place, I don't think anyone apart from Lyr herself knows how much I care about these boards, but I can't stay. I watched as my friends and I have been ridiculed, verbally attacked and basically made shit of by people here and I can't stay quiet anymore, I can't grin and bear it. I can't mod these boards with that frame of mind and I can't be around people who will smile and chat and laugh with me here and then rip me or my friends apart somewhere else. People think it doesn't matter, after all it is just the net, right? Wrong, we kill ourselves trying to make this place the best it can be and at every corner we have more crap to take. I can't do that anymore, it's not right, so I'm going to hang my hat up one last time.

What I want to say to my friends here, and you know who you are, is that I am going to miss you more than anything. I have loved every converstaion, every joke...and will think of them fondly. If you need to contact me you can do so here....

keanoite [at] live.ie

Goodbye BB.

 

[The Chosen]

Well, this sucks. No matter what anyone else says, Kean and Leer were two amazing people.

I'll miss you guys. 🙁

 

[Joan the Vampire Slayer]

What?!

Kean: I really enjoy reading your insightful comments, and sparring about Spuffy/Bangel with you. You always have really good, solid arguments. I hope, despite resigning as a mod, you'll still continue on as an active member on the forum?

Lyri: Your graphics are seriously AMAZING. You are very talented, and contribute a lot to the fandom. Thanks for the pretty banners you've made me. 🙂 I hope to still see you around here.

I really appreciate all the effort you two have put into this place. Thanks for all your hard work. It's definitely made a difference.

And Buffy, I just want you to know I'd love to help out on one of those projects. I have absolutely nothing to do this summer except work, and would love to contribute to this board in any way I can.

Btw, what happened to palabravampires? I have not seen her on here in a while.

 

[Joyce Summers]

Very much agreeing with TC. I'm in Italy at the mo (and have been for past 7 weeks) so I haven't been on as much as usual so I feel completely out-of-the-loopy but just logging on and reading this makes me very sad and POd. I love Kean and Lyri- more lovely and random people cannot be found. And now looking at the list Buffy gave I'm gonna also say I had no idea how much stuff they were in charge/were working on! But big boo (and something less board-friendly) on the people who caused all this. 🙁 I'm gonna miss you two.

 

[Buffy Summers]

Btw, what happened to palabravampires? I have not seen her on here in a while.

Honestly and unfortunately we don't really know. She had a big move, and then we sort of lost contact with her. I removed their mod status just so people wouldn't pm them about stuff since they'd not been here for so long, and sent them a message saying they'd be put back when they came back, but I've not heard anything from her. Hope she's okay. *shrugs*

 

[Blondie Bear]

Okay, first I checked the date (it's not April), then I got sad. I knew some people were unhappy with Lyri and Kean, but I didn't realize that it had gotten THIS bad. And if I have EVER said ANYTHING mean about EITHER of you, or hurt your feelings in any way, I sincerely apologize and did not mean to.

I'm gonna miss seeing you both on here, and I hope we can keep in touch through the various other social networking things we're both a part of.

:cry:

 

[AndrewCrossett]

I really hope both Kean and Lyri will reconsider leaving the boards altogether, if not resigning their mod positions.

I have to say they've been two of my favorite posters here and my enjoyment will be severely lessened by their leaving.

I tend not to hang out in the forums where most of the drama happens, it seems, but I think Buffy and the other mods are VERY well within their rights to red-card those people who think the anonymity of the Internet makes it OK for them to treat others like dirt. There's no point to being lenient with people like that, because they WILL NOT change.

 

[Summers Blood]

It makes me really sad reading this, and PO'd that others have made you both feel like this. 🙁

Kean I've never really got to know you but you've done a great job on the boards from what I've seen.

Lyri, I've known you for a few years now, worked with you as a prefect and I know you are a hard worker and don't take crap normally! I can't believe people have made you feel like this! Chin up hun, and remember that NOT everyone on these boards feels like this!

I seriously think that if it's got this bad, the people concerned should be banned. This is meant to be a nice place for everyone to come on and discuss their points of view, not hide and worry that they are going to offend some BULLIEs, and that's all they are, Bullies!

I'm truly sickened that this hasn't been resolved! 🙁

 

[Crazy Flakes]

You know what? I want to say something like, "Don't go!" to Lyri and Kean because I've loved their posts and feel that they're one of the main reasons why I love (or rather, used to love) this place so much, but honestly, I think they have every reason to do what they're doing. I joined this website because I had seen other Buffy forums before and thought that this one was the nicest and best-moderated, the same reason why I'm sure the rest of you chose to register. But I can't understand why you would go ahead and attack the mods if they're the ones that gave you reason to join in the first place. If you wanted anarchy or a place where you could say whatever you wanted without thinking about how others might feel, why didn't you join another site or, better yet, make your own site called "Buffy Buds" or whatever where you can let everyone run free and attack each other? At this point, I'm really tempted to just go ahead and leave myself, since at this point, there's really no reason why I should stick around here instead of just trying to keep in contact with the people who actually have earned my respect around here and going to talk about the shows I like on "Buffyland" or whatever.

To Lyri and Kean, I, like the vast majority of the members here, am incredibly sad to see you go. This really won't be as good a place without you. To those of you who have decided to attack your mods and fellow members, I could say "I hope you're happy" or make some kind of snarky comment, but instead, I just have to ask...why are you even here?

 

[Edmund Blackadder]

Some of you may or may not have noticed that I haven't posted on here recently - simply put I decided to leave because this place got rather tedious.

I was alerted to this earlier today and I find myself pleased that I left when I did.

The people who are the cause of two such wonderful people having to leave this place, are little more than pure scum - seems this place has attracted that calibre of person.

You may have had a small 'victory' in forcing these two hard working people from the site, but if thats how you spend your 'free time', then you have nothing but my pity because obviously you have little to no life.

Imagine that, you are pitied because your pointless existence makes me feel sorry for you.

Haha, pitiful people.

I really do feel bad for Buffy and Faith though, because I know they depended on the work Kean and Lyri put into this place to help it run, to keep it the great place it USED to be.

Once, Kean said to me that there wasn't anyone on BB that wasn't replaceable (she, at the time was referring to me because she thought my ego meant I thought I kept the place interesting -she was wrong, but I loved that she stroked my ego a bit, even though she didn't realise it) but I think you've probably found the two members who are irreplaceable, the two members who did make this place worth visiting, and if I am honest, I think in the long run this will cause great harm to the site.

Congratulations to the pitiful scum, hope you have a great time on the boards now.

 

[Professor Walsh]

I hate it when the lousy lot manages to scare off excellent people. To moderate a good board is bloody hard work that should be respected. It's as easy as that.

 

[Faith]

Lyri and Kean know how I feel about them and to be honest this has really woken up the old Faith.

I have been rather placid recently for many reasons. However seeing good staff and friends run off the boards is not on. Buffy has made it clear and I would like to back it up by saying that any future behaviour like this will not be tolerated. We will not be asking questions, we will not be asking for an explanations. We have given people chances upon chances and had it thrown in our faces. If you have a problem with how we run the site than you come to us, you don't take it out on the staff.

You might think we are being harsh but in reality it is you who have forced us into this so tough. Of course by you I don't mean everyone personally. We have some excellent members here and it is those members that are the reason this board keeps going.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Lyri and Kean know how I feel about them and to be honest this has really woken up the old Faith.

Oh dear...evil lawyer chick alert...I suspect arses are gonna get kicked and most likely deservedly so.
*Pointy ducks and covers*

 

[Lyri]

First of all, let me start by speaking to the two most important people on this site.

Buffy and Faith, you have not, and never will, lose me as a friend over this. I don't want you to think that this is in anyway your fault. You two are two of my very best friends. Faith, you're my mom. You were there for me, beside me, through my whole five years here, and I couldn't have asked for a better adopter. Buffy, you helped make me what I am, you helped me see that my life, my career, lies in working with computers. Without helping to run this place, I never would have known that. Thank you.

As for the rest of you, I hope you're happy.

I understand that, for the most part, this place has some of the best members any internet forum could hope for. But it's not those people who are forcing me to leave. It's the rest of you.

Reading what you posted about me, even though it wasn't on this site, it made me physically ill. I can't stay here and assosicate with people who are all sweet and innocent when they're talking to me here, but are saying things like that behind my back. You're not worth it.

This was not an easy decision to make, but it was one that I needed to make.

I put my heart and soul into this place, trying to make it the best Buffy forum on the web. I spend hours here, every day, trying to keep this place running as smoothly as possible. To protect members from abuse, only to have that same abuse hurled at me. You think it's okay to talk to people like that? You talk about me to others, you make stuff up about me and what I said, instead of coming to me and helping me to work out a clear solution. Instead, you blow up, tell me I'm on a power-trip, 'cause I was doing what I thought was right at the time.

There are a few members here who will be getting personal emails from me, a personal goodbye, and I hope that I can still keep in touch with them.

I'm sad to say goodbye to this place after five years, but to be honest, those few members have really made BB unpleasant, and you just aren't worth it.

To those select few, including Buffy and Faith, who are at the top of that list, I love you, and I'll miss you.

Lyri*

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 

[AndrewCrossett]

Isn't this all terribly backwards?

Isn't there some way we can fix it so the bad people go away and not the good people?