Potential big bads you would have liked to have seen on screen

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This question applies to both Buffy and Angel.

Are there any characters that you feel would have made good candidates for potential big bads of seasons for either show? The characters could be your own original idea you might have or they could have been introduced in the show but had small roles which never allowed them to take center stage. They also could have been introduced in the comics, novels or any other type of extended media that is considered cannon and non cannon.
 
I was really impressed with the Genie Big Bad in the Buffy roleplaying game. It was evil and had been entrapped, but could eat souls by granting wishes, the wishes turning out bad for the one who got their wish, and eventually giving the genie more power to break free of its prison. IIRC, it started off with a bullied student who was wishing for characters of TV shows to kill his enemies, and characters from Terminator to Xena to even Captain Kirk were showing up (of course these were only quasi-real creations, like holograms that could kill, and had very little in the way of free will or leaving anything behind once killed), and later the Genie finds one of the demons or vampires escaping the Initiative and promises to help it defeat the Slayer and take over the world...that one was brilliant, and I absolutely loved the end of that adventure which really made the genie a fearful opponent as tricky as it was powerful, and after using the wishes of demonkind to free itself (at the expense of the demons making wishes), I shuddered as it offers each of the heroes a wish "in gratitude" (IIRC). I think it would've been even more fearsome than Glory, though once freed it was no longer confined the Hellmouth and seemed uninterested in hanging around.

That's all I can think of at the moment...but one element I wished the show included was a paranoia factor (like a bloody body snatcher thing), and would include say parents of the Scoobies being turned into vampires to get at them, and could even get a teacher just turned to "schedule a parent-teacher conference" which is strange but could be made to work. Even scarier, a Watcher is turned who calls Giles away to then turn him and have him lure the others into an ambush. Granted, this would be a much more horrific show, one that could make a grim Buffy from The Wish (say if her own mother, and perhaps father, were turned, as well as Giles), and make them all more cautious with no room for the charming innocence the early seasons had at times. This would work best if Jesse had been developed more as a character who was then turned later on, and it was not then conveniently forgotten after.
 
I would have loved to see Catherine Madison again. With the school being blown up , it’s very possible her soul could have escaped that trophy. With the emphasis on witchcraft in the later seasons, it would have been pretty cool to see the mother daughter team up of Amy and Catherine. That could have worked even for season 7. Since they were determined to make Amy evil, it could have been awesome if Amy brought back her Mom for revenge . There could have been a witch war between Willow and them or something. Just my opinion but I feel that Catherine Madison could have been a very interesting villain.
 
On Buffy, I would have loved to see the original Season 4 storyline with Maggie Walsh as the big bad. Gwendolyn Post also had a lot of potential to be a bigger bad than she was. Sunday, too. On Angel, I would have liked a bigger bad role for Drusilla.
 
Ethan Rayne could get back up to his old tricks and bring his group to bear on the scoobies but the story would have to be written so the remaining members of his coven would not have been killed in "The Dark Age". He was perfectly capable of organizing a campaign based on magic such as used later in "A New Man". Imagine Buffy as a Fyarl demon. He could have escaped the Initiative and established himself as a new dark power.
 
Drusilla in Angel season 3 probably would have been great, especially if she caused baby problems. Holtz was definitely the only big bad I was disappointed in.
 
I always thought that a really cool twist would have been the First Evil coming back in Season 8 in Robin Wood's body. Robin's last scene in "Chosen" showed Faith thinking that he had died, then his eyes pop open, and he says, "Surprise!" Just imagine that the whole battle in the hellmouth was a trick to get Buffy and her friends to break it out of what was actually a prison, with the ubervamps actually being his guards. Killing them and allowing the hellmouth to collapse would allow the First Evil to reanimate Robin'd corpse, but not reveal that it was really there for until the next Season.
 
Ooh that would have been really good if done right. I know they did it in the comics, but a Slayer-turned-vampire would have been great. (My one and only fanfic lol.)
 
On Buffy, I would have loved to see the original Season 4 storyline with Maggie Walsh as the big bad. Gwendolyn Post also had a lot of potential to be a bigger bad than she was. Sunday, too. On Angel, I would have liked a bigger bad role for Drusilla.

I feel like I should know this, but was there an original storyline that isn't what we got? Obviously, I warmly approve of that.

@Mr. Pole , I love and hate that idea with equal strength.
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
Imagine how tragic and heartbreaking it would have been... that would have really made some good storylines.
I feel like I should know this, but was there an original storyline that isn't what we got? Obviously, I warmly approve of that.

From what I’ve read, Adam was not supposed to kill Maggie when he did. That was written in when the actress left the show (quit or was fired). Mark Field’s book says she was supposed to be the big bad.
 
From what I’ve read, Adam was not supposed to kill Maggie when he did. That was written in when the actress left the show (quit or was fired). Mark Field’s book says she was supposed to be the big bad.

Yes this is true.
Supposedly Joss & the actress who played Maggie Walsh had some major backstage drama. So either she quit/got fired & they had to scramble to create a new Big Bad & then we got the lamest villain Adam
 
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