Question about Fray

[drusillaforever]

By the way, there is also a Fray story in the "Tales of the Slayers" comic book. I've yet to get it but plan to sometime next week. Just 1 issue story, so i don't know if more of this type of information is revealed or not, but just thought i'd throw that out there in case you all didn't know about this book.

Actually i'm not even sure of Tales of the Slayers is canon, so the Fray story might not mean anything.

 

[The Arcane]

Actually i'm not even sure of Tales of the Slayers is canon, so the Fray story might not mean anything.

There is a generally held feeling, although nothing official, that Tales of the Slayers do feature canon information, and i would say that any Fray information is likely to be held as fact, unless Joss specifically says otherwise.

By the way, don't know if you have noticed this but you can edit your posts for a little while after you have submitted them, so if you think of something you had forgotten to say before, just edit your existing post rather than putting several one after another. It just saves a little room on the page and makes things a little easier to read. 🙂

 

[Allycat]

However much fun this discussion may be, I think we all need to accept that wer're missing some vital pieces of information and thus we can't complete the puzzle. We can try to reconstruct it, but it means there will be more than one possibility until we get more pieces of this puzzle. Sometimes the argument is just going to and fro without there being a point to it.

1) Now, anyhow, on the Magic/Slayer-banishment. Perhaps Urkonn was simply over-generalising for the sake of the story he had to tell. It sounds quite feasible to me that part of magic were banished, but a few remained. (For instance one to keep the ban going.) The Slayer-line could have been one.

2)

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Why do we believe Urkonn? We know that he turned out to be a bag guy... so why are we taking his word for everything. Course, having no other sources, is a good reason... but I'm just wondering how much should we really cling to his words.

Then, in the twenty-first century there was a battle. A Slayer, possibly with some mystical allies faced an apocalyptic army of demons. And when it was done, they were all gone. All demons, all magicks, banished from this dimension. It is not known if the Slayer lived, but the demons being gone, she was the last to be called.

3) Buffy couldn't have been the one who did this all, because she was not the last Slayer to be called. I dunno, whether we've already gone over this, but perhaps in light of the new found definitions of "called" and "activated" there may be more to this.

 

[Black Eye Guy]

Yeah I agree with AC, I don't believe that ALL the magick was banished, and the second point is very interesting. That's also why I asked the question about the Called/Activated in another thread (Most people believe that called refers to when a Slyer is called to do her duties and the Activated is when she actually gets her powers). And that's what threw me how they say she is the last to be called, not activated.

 

[drusillaforever]

3) Buffy couldn't have been the one who did this all, because she was not the last Slayer to be called. I dunno, whether we've already gone over this, but perhaps in light of the new found definitions of "called" and "activated" there may be more to this.

We already concluded that this refers to another 21st century battle that we don't about, not the one Buffy was in.

i was going to comment on your spoiler portion but i don't know how to make spoiler tags myself.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

i was going to comment on your spoiler portion but i don't know how to make spoiler tags myself.

You'll find it somewhere in the FAQs but the quick version goes -
[spoiler*] your spoilery text here [/spoiler*] but omit the *s
which looks like

Spoiler

your spoilery text here

 

[drusillaforever]

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2) Spoiler - Highlight to view:Why do we believe Urkonn? We know that he turned out to be a bag guy... so why are we taking his word for everything. Course, having no other sources, is a good reason... but I'm just wondering how much should we really cling to his words.

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I didn't really understand the deal with Urkonn. Who was he? Who were those people telling him what to do? I know they had alterior motives, but are you sure that they are in fact "bad"?

 

[Allycat]

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The fact that Urkon and Mel had a fight to the death is an indication to me that he was a bad guy. I think the demonds he was working for might've been the Senior Partners. Just a crazy theory.