ScarJo is at it again

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First she was stealing roles that should have went to Asian actors with Ghost in the Machine, and now she's teaming up with the director again and stealing roles that should have went to trans actor. In her new movie she is playing a man. A lot of people are gnashing their teeth and bemoaning. What do ya'll think?

Story here.
 
fauxindigo
fauxindigo
Ghost in the Shell for the record. ;)
But are there any trans-actors of note in Hollywood? Genuine interest. I know that Steven Seagal only looks like a flabby middle-aged lady with a ratty pony-tail...

Anyways didn't 'The Danish Girl' do something similar a couple of years ago? Was there any outcry at that time even though the story was finely acted and therefore brought attention to the history of transsexuality (?).
With attention comes understanding and support surely, so greater good and all that, SJ is doing good work for an underrepresented trans community. Like the TV show Transparent.
 
First of all, Rupert Sanders is as sharp as a cue-ball and a terrible director. Any film where he is the director is a horrible idea.

Secondly, I feel like diversity in film (Star Wars, MCU) would not be such a big deal if they stopped giving white actors roles that were written for non-white actors. Don''t cast an Australian (Joel Edgerton) to play an Eygptian Pharaoh. Don't cast an American (Jake Gyllenhaal) to play the Prince of PERSIA. And don't cast John Wayne to play Genghis Khan.

But are there any trans-actors of note in Hollywood? Genuine interest. I know that Steven Seagal only looks like a flabby middle-aged lady with a ratty pony-tail...

I don't watch Sense8 but according to the linked article Jamie Clayton is transgender. Laverne Cox from Orange is the New Black got nominated for an Emmy.
 
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MarieVampSlayer
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Hahaha no you do not cast John Wayne in that role for sure! Old hollywood was so dumb back than!
Offhand, she's a good actress, and it will get more views than an unknown lead. Acting skill and fame is more important to identity. If I wanted someone trans involved, then I'd be more interested in putting it in the writing rather than the acting roles (though I'll now state the obvious to me that 5 different trans would write 5 different stories, and describe the trans characters in 5 different ways from one another).

That aside...I think so many molehills have been turned into mountains, and sometimes they just pull things to complain about out of their ass just for a quick self-righteous thrill while doing nothing of import beyond banging on their keyboard (and it's especially funny when the group they claim to speak on behalf of refutes them, with the example off the top of my head, Speedy Gonzales ) that I can't be bothered to see if they have a criticism that I'd agree with this time.

Though to be fair, it's probably not that many raising a fuss, but rather reporters chumming the net by focusing on a handful of malcontents trying to make them seem more popular than they are (and with luck, the coverage will make them so, people will want to see what the fuss is about and probably get angry to share the stories with others and on social media, and hello clickbait and thus higher pay for selling ad space!). Whatever position the press tends to cover, they usually go for the most extreme and controversial in order to make it a soap opera of sorts, which is unfortunate as it takes away attention and clout from those who are much more reasonable, but from the press's point of view, the more drama the better. And that will continue to be the case as long as it's more profitable than ethical reporting.
 
are there any trans-actors of note in Hollywood?


Sense8 but according to the linked article Jamie Clayton is transgender

If we're going by the performance in Sense8, Scarjo is a better option. Watching Jamie Clayton act is incredibly weird. Its like watching a gay man with pretty hair acting and behaving like (they?) think a woman should act (over dramatic and emotional). Including orgasms and squealing. Yeah, nah. Go ScarJo (I love that name haha took me a while to click on the thread cos I didnt recognise the name). I probably won't be watching the movie regardless, but if acting is truly based on talent rather than sex - Im pleased they didn't give Jamie Clayton a look in. She'll get plenty of netflix work.

Has anyone here seen Boys Dont Cry? Is HIllary Swank gona cop it too? Its not a movie I could handle seeing again, but still extremely powerful.
 
From my understanding it's not so much that she was cast, it was the flippant response when a reporter mentioned some fans questioned her being cast in the role. After the ordeal with (@thrasherpix ) Ghost of the Robot people felt she should have been a little more 'respectful' with her answer.
 
November
November
Ohhh probably cant win, whatever she said
From my understanding it's not so much that she was cast, it was the flippant response when a reporter mentioned some fans questioned her being cast in the role. After the ordeal with (@thrasherpix ) Ghost of the Robot people felt she should have been a little more 'respectful' with her answer.

Unless she used her clout and other influence to actually get herself the role that was already given to someone else then she "stole" nothing. Her response is professional and appropriate (not disrespectful) as she's not the one to make the call (and her playing it will get more people to see it--those insignificant few who boycott it wouldn't get anything from the movie anyway).

That article uses loaded terms, and the comments directed at her are far more obnoxious than what she said. This is a tempest in a teapot. And given all the tempests and tantrums in and over Hollywood it's a nice change of pace to give such a professional answer, and if certain people don't like how she's not letting herself be baited then good for her. I hope we see more of ScarJo's professional attitude from others in Hollywood.

They'd never be satisfied anyway. If they had someone trans then they'd complain that the person wasn't a person of color, or make something else up (they've done it with other movies that tried pandering to them). Since they'll never satisfied, and since they live to bitch and moan no matter what, I say to hell to with them...and that's a lot meaner than what ScarJo said to people like that.
 
she's not the one to make the call (and her playing it will get more people to see it-
If she would have given an answer such as that, rather than being dismissive, I think people would have had less issues.
 
Since they'll never satisfied, and since they live to bitch and moan no matter what, I say to hell to with them...and that's a lot meaner than what ScarJo said to people like that.
Spot on. She's not a Russian assassin either but she's taken on the role well enough.

Exactly what is the percentage of trans people in the population anyway? I imagine the pool of talent must be miniscule given how few people ever make it in acting as a percentage of the population as a whole.
 
SES SA
SES SA
There was nothing Russian about her Black Widow.
If she would have given an answer such as that, rather than being dismissive, I think people would have had less issues.

They were going to be offended no matter what. MAYBE if ScarLo deeply apologized she MIGHT get a pass. I look at that article and "nobody is happy" is false and their terms loaded and meant to generate feelings. I bet they're talking about only a few malcontents, though they'll spread it as research has shown people share news stories that generate outrage most of all.

Her answer was not dismissive (not unless it was in the tone she delivered it). It was professional and I'm glad she's not apologizing for doing her job and giving a professional answer rather than jumping through their hoops with tearful apologies where no apology is due.
 
If we're going by the performance in Sense8, Scarjo is a better option. Watching Jamie Clayton act is incredibly weird. Its like watching a gay man with pretty hair acting and behaving like (they?) think a woman should act (over dramatic and emotional). Including orgasms and squealing. Yeah, nah. Go ScarJo (I love that name haha took me a while to click on the thread cos I didnt recognise the name). I probably won't be watching the movie regardless, but if acting is truly based on talent rather than sex - Im pleased they didn't give Jamie Clayton a look in. She'll get plenty of netflix work.

Has anyone here seen Boys Dont Cry? Is HIllary Swank gona cop it too? Its not a movie I could handle seeing again, but still extremely powerful.

Well, we know that is not just based on talent. ScarJo is hardly Meryl Streep, or even Natalie Portman or Brie Larson. She is the most famous, marketable option. I don't think anyone is going to see this movie regardless, but I understand the frustration just because this type of thing has been happening for decades.
 
Mrs Gordo
Mrs Gordo
Brie Larson? That name seems out of place with the other two you named :)
nightshade
nightshade
Who is Brie Larson?
Hummm that is a difficult situation but overall the worst thing is not that she was cast but how she responded. I never saw the show transparent so I don't have an opinion on Jeffrey Tambor but as for Jared Leto and Felicity Huffman I don't have an issue with them because they were playing Trans that were alined with their respective sex (For example Felicity played a man that had fully transitionned into a women so therefore whe was a good choice for me as she is woman). It would be interesting to know if the role in her new movie is a fully transition Trans or not as that does make a difference for me. If the Trans role is biologically still male I would prefer to see a Trans or even a man in that role as Scarjo is very feminine and that would distract me in the realism or it all.

Now do I think Scarjo has the talent to play such a role as beautifully as the other did? As of now I would say no but it's still up for debate. What she stupid to accept such a role after her already controversial role in Ghost in a shell? Hell yes but she doesn't seem to give a F*ck about it all. Should the production had made a effort to cast a Trans for that role? Well obviously but that would have meant to probably cast an unknown phenomenal actor and we know how hollywood is scared of that! They had a chance to make a difference and didn't take it. Same old hollywood is probably more to blamed than Scarjo on this.

BTW isn't Rupert Sanders the dude who sleeped with Kristin Stewart and had that whole scandal? If that is him well I don't expect a man like that to know right from wrong!
 
@SES SA - take back my karma comment. IMDBed Brie Larson I see she won an Oscar for Room. Haven’t seen that!
 
If the Trans role is biologically still male I would prefer to see a Trans or even a man in that role as Scarjo is very feminine and that would distract me in the realism or it all.
Here's the guy she will be playing
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Good for her. People keep telling her what she can and can't do and instead of a grovelling apology she ignores them.
who cares if she takes roles for Asians & trans actors I am getting sick of all this pc garbage like how they said buffy was a white show I do not see skin colour or care whether someone is trans or Gay.
 
@nightshade She won the Best Actress Oscar for 'Room' and she was in 'Kong: Skull Island'. She is also going to play Captain Marvel in the new Avengers film and a solo movie.

Here's the guy she will be playing
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Well, as far as casting against type that is about as opposite as you could get. Maybe she is hoping to do a Charlize Theron in 'Monster' but...come on.
 
nightshade
nightshade
Never seen them
Here's the guy she will be playing
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Wow that will be interesting for sure...do you think she is ready to fully transformed into this image? Scarjo usually wants to be ``pretty`` in her movies and as awesome as this guy looks it is not her usual look!
 
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