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I didn't really like season 5 so I've decided to watch it again and give it another chance, but so far no good...
I just really don't get what the Angel team are doing in W&H. What's this supposed to achieve, for either side, and for us an as audience, and for the characters, the writing...? I just don't understand the concept. It's like one of those annoyingly simple things everybody seems to understand but you don't! 🙁
Also I have other questions/musings I posted a while back in the Not Fade Away thread but I'm just gonna repost them here.
I think the tears on "Fred's" face as she comforted a dying Wesley were partly Illyria's own tears.
My biggest regret of the series ending is that we don't get to see Illyria developing as a character, though it is hinted at that she retains a tiny portion of humanity, maybe even Fred's own humanity, and that's a good enough ending for me.
I spent much of the series liking Lorne and hoping for him to become a main character. He finally did, and was awesome for a while, but then season 5 came and he sort of didn't do much. His ending was so sad, I felt so sorry for him. I am not sure if I quite understood his ending on the show, but from what I gather he didn't like the world that Angel and co had dragged him into, he didn't like what he and they were becoming, and wished to go back to just being Lorne? Maybe someone could explain it better... Also I don't get why Angel wanted Lorne to kill Lyndsey.
As much as I love the defiance against the Senior Partners, showing them even if just for a moment that they can be defied, I am not sure I understood the sudden need for Angel and everyone else to stand up against them. Couldn't they just leave W&H, go back to the hotel and back to helping the helpless like they did before?
Harmony's actions at the end disappointed me, but I guess they made sense. I was more disappointed that she wasn't used more and developed as a character throughout the season. Personally, I like the idea of her being too stupid to be evil, and she could have joined the "good" side simply out of pure incompetency at being a vampire. I think that would have been better but as it was, she didn't do much 🙁
The dragon at the end looks similar to the dragon that came through Glory's dimensional portal.
What happened to Eve? She didn't see the point in fighting on (not that she ever really fought). Did she just give up hiding and give herself up to the senior partners?
I love that Spike read out his "Beauty Effulgient" poem and finally got the reaction he'd always wanted (and from a bunch of scary biker demons no less).
Angel signed a contract to the circle of the black thorn, about not turning human, but then he killed them all so does the contract still stand?
One thing I don't think has been tied up - where's Druscilla? Unless I've forgotten it, she wasn't killed off. Is she still out there somewhere? Seems weird she got no closure for such a big part of BTVS and ATS not to mention all the backstory.
I just really don't get what the Angel team are doing in W&H. What's this supposed to achieve, for either side, and for us an as audience, and for the characters, the writing...? I just don't understand the concept. It's like one of those annoyingly simple things everybody seems to understand but you don't! 🙁
Also I have other questions/musings I posted a while back in the Not Fade Away thread but I'm just gonna repost them here.
I think the tears on "Fred's" face as she comforted a dying Wesley were partly Illyria's own tears.
My biggest regret of the series ending is that we don't get to see Illyria developing as a character, though it is hinted at that she retains a tiny portion of humanity, maybe even Fred's own humanity, and that's a good enough ending for me.
I spent much of the series liking Lorne and hoping for him to become a main character. He finally did, and was awesome for a while, but then season 5 came and he sort of didn't do much. His ending was so sad, I felt so sorry for him. I am not sure if I quite understood his ending on the show, but from what I gather he didn't like the world that Angel and co had dragged him into, he didn't like what he and they were becoming, and wished to go back to just being Lorne? Maybe someone could explain it better... Also I don't get why Angel wanted Lorne to kill Lyndsey.
As much as I love the defiance against the Senior Partners, showing them even if just for a moment that they can be defied, I am not sure I understood the sudden need for Angel and everyone else to stand up against them. Couldn't they just leave W&H, go back to the hotel and back to helping the helpless like they did before?
Harmony's actions at the end disappointed me, but I guess they made sense. I was more disappointed that she wasn't used more and developed as a character throughout the season. Personally, I like the idea of her being too stupid to be evil, and she could have joined the "good" side simply out of pure incompetency at being a vampire. I think that would have been better but as it was, she didn't do much 🙁
The dragon at the end looks similar to the dragon that came through Glory's dimensional portal.
What happened to Eve? She didn't see the point in fighting on (not that she ever really fought). Did she just give up hiding and give herself up to the senior partners?
I love that Spike read out his "Beauty Effulgient" poem and finally got the reaction he'd always wanted (and from a bunch of scary biker demons no less).
Angel signed a contract to the circle of the black thorn, about not turning human, but then he killed them all so does the contract still stand?
One thing I don't think has been tied up - where's Druscilla? Unless I've forgotten it, she wasn't killed off. Is she still out there somewhere? Seems weird she got no closure for such a big part of BTVS and ATS not to mention all the backstory.
MarlieTheSlayer
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