Season 7 Buffy DVD Commentary

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Season 7 DVD Commentary on "Chosen" by Joss

All credit goes to deborahw37! Reposted with permission. Deborah is posting these on other sites today, too; she originally posted the first parts on BAPS.

I personally want to thank deborahw37 for transcribing all of this; it must have taken her hours and hours"¦ and thanks so much for sharing it! A lot of us will not be able to see the Season 7 DVDs until probably the end of 2004, so this is very much appreciated! Deborah's comments are included. I hope that I don't have it too out of order but different parts were posted at different times, especially the first act.

You may agree or disagree with Joss, but this is what he said. Cindy

Teaser

Hi I'm Joss Whedon and this is the very final audio commentary on the very final episode of the very final series of Buffy and if you've actually sat through all the episodes and all the commentaries and you have a feeling of exhaustion confusion and sort of a low riding rage that you can't really describe or understand then you'll know how I felt when we shot this , to say that I was wiped out by the time we got here is the understatement of the world and no scene I think showed that more than this one because we had so little time to shoot so much and I'll explain
about that as we go to the credits

Credits

You see that was actually the first stuff we shot and we only had David for a little while and I mean a really little while I had about seven hours to do about ten pages and it all required everybody to be completely on point but that's what you get with Nathan and Sarah and David professionalism everybody was right on their marks and everybody worked really hard and it was a good start to this because there was no episode that we ever shot that was harder, bigger and that left less time for me to try and do anything interesting with the camera it left less time for the DP to light it left less time for everybody to do their best work and yet somehow people managed to

Act One

The stunts I did not have to shoot that day John Mettland shot most of it second unit and you'll be hearing a little bit about David Soloman who shot a huge amount of second unit for me on this show because it took so many days

What can I say about Nathan Fillion that hasn't already been said, he's a great hero and a great villain and just delightful I was so happy to have him back for the beginning of this episode just because I wanted to work with him and he'd gotten to work with other directors and I didn't think it was fair that he didn't get me, and I thought splitting him in half from the crotch up was you know maybe a little on the nose as a radical feminist statement goes but for his character I really thought he'd earned it . so

And David you know again came and just was right on the money same as Sarah from the first take which was important the only person who didn't do their best work here I think was me because lack of time meant that here we are that's an over that's an over and then we have a two shot over over two shot which is pretty much the gold standard for boring t directing but when we're in the kind of hurry that we were on this one we didn't have any choice, they make one big move in this entire scene and once they do we started shooting both of them at the same time, it's the rarest thing of all usually you light one direction it's very specific and then it takes awhile to turn round and light in the other direction but every now and then when you're desperate you ask your DP to light both people at the same time, it's not undoable both of them look good here but we had two cameras running the whole time .. it also helps the scene sometimes because both people are in it in their coverage in their close-ups at the same time and they're giving their all and they're feeding off the rhythms of the other person very specifically so you're not cobbling together something that has taken what could be hours apart . It's a fun way to shoot it just makes life hell for the DP and Ray came through as he always does really spectacularly on it.

Yes there will be praise because a lot of people really impressed me you know this was a really hard episode hard episode to shoot one of the shots coming up this one a steady cam shot designed to show the scope of the giant graveyard and give a little motion and emotion to what they're doing, course the giant graveyard is our parking lot, the graveyard that Gareth Davies our producer suggested we build at the beginning of season two to save time going out to graveyards we shot the first half of that scene the first half of that night and then we came out here to shoot the rest of it again the time constraints were insane and yet this stuff looks great and the two of them are as funny and real as they've ever been so that worked out just fine . and David doing my all time favourite thing being petty, whenever Angel is Petty I think he's at his best . And I love the fact that I feel the scope of the graveyard which is where I thought Buffy and Angel should leave their relationship on this show because it is the iconic place for Buffy the graveyard , more than anything else. A lot of this last episode had to do with finding that perfect iconic moment and that perfect iconic thing that really says this is a summation of what we've done . I've done it before I did it in episode 22 of season 5 where I had Buffy fighting a vampire in the alley at the beginning

I had made a lot of the statements to sort of round out my feelings about the show but life went on and the show went on and writing a second final episode of Buffy was much harder than writing the first partially because I'd already written one partially because I knew that this was the end at some point I just had to let go and just write forget about the pressure about it being perfect , it's not going to be and it isn't but make it good enough hit the beats give an episode so that people would remember. We knew where we wanted to go thematically It was just getting there.

This speech about cookies well not cookies exactly but I believe baking was in there was originally pitched by Marti Noxon early in the season and I think as the show runner I could have done a better job of bringing us to it , it comes to this conclusion a little bit out of the blue and that's my fault but we knew that emotionally it's where we wanted to get and where we wanted to get to was the idea of my relationships don't work out because I'm still becoming a woman and finding my place and I don't need to be finding the perfect guy at age 22 or however old Buffy is at this point , I can wait, I can wait until I'm fully formed and I think that's a very important message and when Marti had thought about this in her own life and she told me about it I was like I think this is exactly where we need Buffy to get . And it helps with the other really complicated part of writing this episode which is how to get Angel and Spike together in the same show, have her have the big emotion for both of them and not make her look like the slut queen of slutdonia as Marti herself would say . It was very tricky and I'd like to point out that I had to do it in the same act, that by the end of act , well before the end of act one she's sleeping with Spike .

This exit for Angel was designed to mirror his first exit him backing off in the darkness. Something hopefully iconic enough and something to give people hope that Buffy and Angel might one day work out because some fans, now I realise not many but there were a few fans who feel that the Buffy Angel romance was like a big deal and clearly I thought Parker was the most important romantic relationship of her life other people disagreed that's fine I guess they can do that they care about the Angel thing, some people care about the Spike thing I don't know why we couldn't get Parker in there too but apparently no you know whatever so that vocal minority who care about Buffy and Angel meant that we had to do service by him.. Comment on screen action) "eye socket jokes always funny"

And this was how to get her in the sack with Spike half an act after Angel had left but you know the experience. I've said this probably a hundred times and probably all of them on the audio commentaries to these damn episodes the trick is always to make the audience go through exactly what she's going through It's confusing to us emotionally that we should bounce from one to the other and it's confusing to her but Spike is the person in her life right now. That drawing is one of my own creations and a lot of the
crew members were like "why does he hat e Butthead?" and I was like "Oh it's supposed to be Angel" and that was something that I did on the day it wasn't in the script, that's the kind of wacky improve I've got going. Who knows what could happen. At any moment I could come up with that I think that's actually the only thing I came up with. Asides from the script

The great Marsters with a chemistry with Buffy that is just completely different from Angels and different to Davids and it works very very well he's more on Buffys level he's they're vulnerabilities come out and I don't just mean as characters but as actors Around each other and that really works it works on a different level. Their relationship, clearly been through a lot much more in fact than her relationship with Angel and you feel that history with these two and they bring it to the set they come to work and that's why we still came to work because they did And James the ability to turn on a dime is a very rare thing in an actor from incredibly noble or scary to completely dorky or disarming, he does it with the tongue line earlier he does it here you'd be amazed how few people can actually do that and the last person I ever expected to be able to do it would be a theatre trained actor yet he's got the chops he can go from Dracula to Jack Benny in a heart beat which is one of the reasons why I love him that and his shiny shiny hair


I couldn't resist jumping ahead I'll go back later and fill in the
other two and a half acts

The idea behind their sleeping together is very important it was that their relationship had enough trust in it that it was physical and romantic but not sexual that was of course in response to the rape issue of last year when he had attempted to rape her because he didn't understand the boundaries of their relationship, he was
soulless but having gotten his soul and having fought to become a person we wanted to say this man can be redeemed from that not and I've said this before, not in a Luke And Laura ,he rapes her and they get married way not in an all is forgiven way just in the way of he's still a human being who did a wrong thing and we still count
him as a human being, I think that's a very important message, that their relationship should be complicated and yet come to a place of
trust without saying alright they're going to become lovers again because I think that would be wrong I think that would be the wrong message I think that it's a very fine line

I love watching them face off, I love Nathan he tells his little
jokes almost like he's an old man his little puns and his
silliness the delight he takes in his character is just so very
charming and the point he's hitting on of course being the whole point of the show .being the whole point of the season and it seemed not only really affordable to have Sarah playing the First fort the most part of this but also the smartest because we've come full circle and it did make sense that we had Sarah telling herself literally that she was alone. These two didn't get along together at all I thought they would but they were complaining their outfits were too similar their trailers were the same size and there was
trouble " I'm drowning in footwear" just one of those lines that
make you glad that you're a writer that you can write something that silly and actually out it on the air it's an odd thing to end an act with an affirmation of potential victory but it made sense to me here because it's so strange

End of act one

Here is Act 2 and other comments! Again, all credit goes to deborahw37!


Ok I'm going to skip forward to the end and then go back and fill in the middle later

On to the hand clasp

The sunlight hits Spike the sunlight is channelled through Spike
and it gets nasty some of the body language from these vamps again CGI really beautifully done The idea of the soul as the thing that elevates and kills him felt like a good wrap up and again going from the epic to the humorous in a heartbeat that's our boy. The girls kept walking through the beam and I had to say "you're being chopped in half . duck and she did and she fell but she wasn't hurt nobody was hurt it's all fake . The idea of the bus was just that it felt right we had to get a lot of people out and it's a school bus and that's what we did this shot one of my favourites too , he's looking for her she's right there he doesn't find her those always get me.

This was an interesting scene because both James and Sarah came to it from the wrong place really, they were playing things falling apart and the terror of it and I said that what I wanted was for them to completely distance themselves from it and I explained how the sound was going to drift out ( Hand clasp) this was sort of a romantic image the two of them, we actually did it with real fires. But the hands were all gelled up and you could tell so this is CGI and it looks beautiful I thought it was a nice comment on their relationship .What I basically told them was play the romance be proud of him , love him when you say you love him / love her when you say she doesn't love you . forget about the crumbling world for that period of time it doesn't exist it's a cinematic trick but it's a necessary emotional one I was surprised
that they hadn't come there because usually with the three of us we come to a scene in exactly the same place and this time it really was sort of different eventually Sarah said if you have what you think you need I think we should move on because I'm not sure I understand how this works but I look at the two of them together and you know their work is tremendous , but that is part of making TV
and movies sometimes you'll get a take from an actor that blows you away and they'll go "oh I wasn't feeling the thing can we go again and I'm like " you just gave me gold" " but I didn't feel it" and I'm like " The audience will" sometimes you can let them have another and sometimes you just say " trust me, the audience will be there cos I was" . another beautiful image our boy goin down for the last time even though everybody already knew he was gonna be on
Angel.





Act Two

Well this shot is kind of a cheesy trick but it got everybody in
frame so I liked it this scene was one of those OK gotta make our day kind of scenes . I shot the room as a three waller , you'll notice I don't come around on Giles when he speaks to Willow I get him in profile which I don't mind doing, I don't need to be in every bodies faces the whole time exactly for every moment but it was a function of the very small amount of time that we had that I played it in the proscenium form almost you never do see that forth wall and the bed helped. Some people have complained that the magic that
this scythe , originally from the Fray comic that I was writing
at the same time is a little to convenient , and my answer to those critics is " well don't tell everybody" it is convenient and that doesn't really bother me because ultimately to e the magic the phlobotonin was always secondary to what needs to be said and had to do with empowerment and the way to get there was through Willows magic and what it means to her and being a slayer and what it means to them so the fact that everything really fell into place a little too easily, maybe I could have thought of something a little more interesting but that isn't where my heart was, my heart was in the heart more than it was in the magic.

This scene well first all of the first time that Buffy got through
this speech which I'm sure you can realise when you watch the episode we shot all as one , there are two parts to it and it's very long and it is about twice as long as what you see on screen we cut about half of it in the editing room apparently my pen runneth over so Sarah's basically doing a scene that is four times as long as what she does here and did she get every single word right on the first take? Yes she did the extras actually spontaneously burst into applause when she was done? Yes they did . Again it's one f the reasons why we went as long as we did , working as hard as we did the fact that she could do that. I'd also like to point out that it was Eliza Dushku who actually stopped to point out how much she liked the speech how much she liked the scene how much she liked the work and coming from an actor who knows they're gonna spend half the day standing there looking , with no lines I though that was particularly gracious.

In this scene she accused me of getting back at some girl because of the way Wood kind of disses on her but actually it just made me laugh, and there aren't any girls I need to get back! (Laughs) actually I think I told her that's if what I was doing with the show it would be going another four seasons.

But I think there two just had a lovely chemistry and this is not necessarily something that would have been in the last episode a relationship talk from the two of them but it deals with the isolated nature of the slayer embodied here by Faith rather than Buffy which is really an important part of the season and it just tells us a little something about the two of them and pays off at the end two takes you know in either direction , both of them were so on point so delightful, Eliza not happy about giving up control of being like vulnerable and he attacks her skills and the expression " Dude I've got mad skills" was actually said to me by Eliza in reference to serving ice cream , working at the Dairy Queen I believe not in reference to anything else but I loved the phrase so much I though I simply have to have Faith say it . Which
since it was me writing it became dirty. Weird, it's a thing. DB
Woodside from the first frame that I saw in the first episode he intrigued me so much a real you know a real comer a real epic guy just a little bigger than life and you look for that so often you don't get it, it's really hard to find someone. It was a match I love Iyari and Allie in this scene well I love Allie in pretty much every scene where she doesn't have to speak a foreign language and I think It's not a big secret that originally I had planned to bring Tara back and when that didn't work out you know I was looking for the anti Tara , somebody as un earthy and unlike
her as possible . Iyari has a wonderful presence and a great
physicality with Allie that is just very natural so I liked
working with them ,this is like my first time because I didn't shoot any up until this one because I was too tired ,I was pretty much too tired to shoot this one too but I had no choice, I couldn't let somebody else do it except for the parts that I let John Maidland and David Solomon do which again we'll come to later and the reasoning behind the two of them was very simply somebody had to end this show with a God damned girlfriend and why shouldn't it be
Willow? Somebody has to end in a decent relationship because we've seen so any of them fall apart.

I loved doing this as a one er because I love a One er you have to do them a lot more times they take about as long as doing a scene with coverage but when you get it and it's all there It's delightful and Tom well I can't say enough about him, this thing he does with his hood when he says step back he had never done in any take he just threw it in there now here we go he had never done that before and it just he's always trying to bring more to the table notin that annoying " I have an idea that will ruin the shot" way but
just in I'm staying in it and I loved that he became a huge part of the show . this scene was also added so that we could give Amanda some screen time so that later on I could kill her because I wanted to take a toll I think that Emma knows that as well as any., a battle without some kind of a toll is not a real battle.
Pulled wide here because I had planned to shot that on set and when they said we're going out I said well then dammit I'm pulling wide so they know we really went there that night we actually had four directors shooting porch scenes for four different shows and this bit here I did actually add on set not just the picture of Butthead on the punching bag but this where I said " I wanna get a couple of shots (we were going fast) And that one I didn't know if we were going to use the two of them"¦ and to me it's almost the most important shot in the show because it shows the mystery of their relationship and that's one where I wanted the audience to fill in the blank I wanted whatever you want to have happened to have happened If people believe that on their last night together they made love great if people believe that on their last night together they talked all night if people believe they had a fight great whatever it s it's up to the viewer the viewer has earned that and I love that analytical nature that there should be work for the viewer to do in that
sense emotionally I think that makes it more textured and that
shot of the two of them looking at each other I just find that
beautiful "¦


He talked about this right over the beginning of act three but I
kept going "¦ Now I'll post this as act two and get back

Here is Act 3! All credit goes to deborahw37!

(I'm getting lazy; you can reformat the sentences yourselves. 🙂 Cindy)

Act 3
And I loved this shot too setting up all my parameters Look around
big wide lens and then of course the great Andrew Oscar speech of
the show which made me laugh every single time we did it
sometimes out loud which was of course not a good thing for the
director to do during a take his Brother Tucker of course who we
referenced all the time was the guy who tried to destroy the prom
and we had originally wanted that actor Brad to be one of the
nerds but he was busy and couldn't so we found Tom and played up the
idea that everybody couldn't remember him because he was somebody
else's little Brother which by the way happened to me in high
school all the time but I love that, the little continuity things
are very important to me that sentence ( whatever you say is going
to sound like Goodbye) was actually said tome by Marti after the
show when she was leaving the house after we had watched it.. why
it nearly made me cry , but I don't cry because I am a manly man
This moment I don't think I really need to explain what's going on
here I felt that it was very important and I think the audience
did too that these four have their moment together, these four who
started it all should finish it all and Much in the same way they
began it that's why I echoed the exact lines from Giles this shot
is I feel the every ending of the two part beginning
And this shot also very important as they peel off one by one
friends going to their destinies and Buffy left alone I shot that
in slow motion but unfortunately it was so slow that it took up
about half the show a whole long walk for Buffy where she walked
down through the basement and remembered things and walked in slow
motion really really long, I had to cut it I had to cut a lot of
things my shows almost always come out long because I talk to much,
in this instance I'm supposed to be talking right now too much but
I almost cut this shot which is again I think one of the most
important shots just for time when we were shooting but the idea of
all these girls bleeding together I think ha a a good earthy
almost menstrual metaphor to it which I think is important since
they're all becoming Slayers . Oh did I give it way? Well if you're
listening to the audio commentaries you probably already know that .
My biggest regret about this episode was that I didn't get to do
more funny Willow stuff there was just so much plot to get through
and Funny Allie is such a great thing and I wished we'd had more of
her

This shot is rather seamlessly welded in by Ronnie and our guys
at Zoic and really gave us an epic feel that we just didn't have
the money for on this show all these many years so we've been
saving all year for this very sequence and these very shots the idea
that there was now a technology where you could do hundreds of
thousands of bad guys it just didn't exist in the first six years
and people well somebody saw The Two Towers and the fact of the
matter is what I saw was a literal thing that was in cinefax
explaining that they had this new technology you could create
thousands of bad guys and I was like that will make this battle
different from all the others the sheer number

And this, this I knew I was coming to from the start of the season
pretty early on in it Buffy was isolated as a character even in
the world Buffy and her gang never ensemble always like the star
and the others in the magazines and what not and it was very
important to me to say Ok great that you've worshipped this one
iconic character but find it in yourself everybody and that's why
we shot the people all over and that was a great fun thing to do
the very last thing I shot for the show on first unit was the girl
in the trailer and Drew Goddard pointed out that it was kind of a
great shot to be shooting at this point for this show and I
can't say enough about our little baseball girl, so may people just
lost it I thought " oh this is gonna be too cheesy the baseball
thing" but so many people were like " I was that girl, I played
little league it's so important" and that s the cry moment for a
lot of people again I can't say enough about the Zoic guys the job
they did integrating these things and Felicia Day as Vi and
Indigo as Rona just doing great work they really stuck you know a
lot of girls came a lot of girls got killed and.

This image which we referred to, speaking of Lord of The Rings as
the Blanchett image , obviously meant to she couldn't stop talking
about her black haired evil and the idea that when she empowers
these women she comes to something even more powerful beyond the
concept of power beyond the powers of evil something truly
connected about connection about Women's connection to the earth
and that it can bring out the best in her and it would be nifty
It seemed like a good conclusion to her story her arc

This scene this story all of this stuff this is where David Solomon
really came in and helped out, he shot for days of second unit
because there was simply so much to shoot and without him I mean he
was a great director on the show and a great producer anyway and
without him doing this episode I never would have made it through he
kept it interesting. We
actually had to stop filming one night one Friday night half way
through because I was just too tired

Felicia was like "you hooked me up fat" she loved all of this
footage we got of her but she looked great. that shot was very
specifically storyboarded before we ever did anything, that was
very important ( Buffy swings scythe and dusts multiple ubies) I
wanted to get that moment of just everybody doing everything in slow
mo I thought it came out really nice though .

And if you're going to pay off things that people have dealt with
over the years , Bunnies are going to be one of the most
important Emma just about the funniest person who ever looked
that good
DB loved to fight, so did Tony I wished we could have had more of
that again we wanted to keep everything moving as fast as
possible and you know "I have swimmers" ear" is just something that
Tom said that made me laugh and so I put it in I don't know why
the characters saying that it's not going to stop the vampire .
People complained again that the vampires were too easy to kill ,
they were supposed to be stronger than other vampires and the fact
of the matter is it's true like the convenient magic it's true
because again I was more interested in showing the empowerment than
I was in the continuity to make every vampire as hard to kill as
the first one would have been too hard.
End of act three
 
COOL!!.Thank you for posting this!!😀😀


7 hours...didn't Sarah have 7 hours to shot Bangel happy ending?..🙁🙁
 
Here is Act 4! All credit goes to deborahw37!

(Again, sorry for not reformatting the sentences, but you can do that for yourself; I got tired! 😀 ENJOY! Cindy)


Act four

Shooting the battle as it was required many ,many more days than
we had scheduled and more directors so once I got all the big
moments out this was a very important thing too the sharing of the
scythe means the sharing of the power just about as literally as
you can get . Had to use a little sunlight since it was the middle
of the day. (Anya dies) one of the most brutal images we've ever
done and you know done to keep the sense of battle , you know the
un heroic death also interesting because I'd never seen it before
I'd never seen anybody cut like that and I came up with the idea of
the stuntman using a half sword and digitally adding the rest of the
sword and the cut so just instead of one of those slices like you
always get in swordfight movies we really cut someone down And of
course Sarah following as well that was because I needed a toll I
needed this battle really to feel like a battle and I couldn't kill
any of my core four and still call it a happy ending I couldn't
kill Dawn and still call it a happy ending either so Anya got the
nod and to make it as un heroic as possible just felt very real and
very creepy and that shot was in fact her last shot
( get out of my face) a lot of people didn't actually get that
this was a pun but it seemed like the right thing and here you've
really got to give it up for the composer he increased the budget
of the show by a half just because his music gave it such an epic
feel this music to me embodies so much of what I was striving
for , it makes the thing feel twice as epic it was a beautiful piece
of music. that's May a great great stuntwoman who gave us beautiful
footage as Felicia did too all the girls really enjoyed their
fighting, they wanted to fight more and more , Iyari particularly .
Sarah at one point said look we're going to need more footage,
just keep rolling and I'll fight

The sunlight hits Spike the sunlight is channelled through Spike
and it gets nasty some of the body language from these vamps again
CGI really beautifully done The idea of the soul as the thing that
elevates and kills him felt like a good wrap up and again going from
the epic to the humorous in a heartbeat that's our boy
The girls kept walking through the beam and I had to say "you're
being chopped in half. duck and she did ad she fell which was fun
but she wasn't hurt nobody was hurt it's all fake . The idea of the
bus was just that it felt right we had to get a lot of people out
and it's a school bus and that's what we did this shot one of my
favourites too , he's looking for her she's right there he doesn't
find her those always get me.

This was an interesting scene because both James and Sarah came to
it from the wrong place really, they were playing things falling
apart and the terror of it and I said that what I wanted was for
them to completely distance themselves from it and I explained how
the sound was going to drift out (Hand clasp) this was sort of a
romantic image the two of them, we actually did it with real fires.
But the hands were all gelled up and you could tell so this is CGI
and it looks beautiful I thought it was a nice comment on their
relationship .What I basically told them was
Play the romance be proud of him, love him when you say you love
him ,love her when you say she doesn't love you. forget about the
crumbling world for that period of time it doesn't exist it's a
cinematic trick but it's a necessary emotional one I was surprised
that they hadn't come there because usually with the three of us we
come to a scene in exactly the same place and this time it really
was sort of different. Eventually Sarah said if you have what you
think you need I think we should move on because I'm not sure I
understand how this works but I look at the two of them together and
you know their work is tremendous , but that is part of making TV
and movies sometimes you'll get a take from an actor that blows you
away and they'll go "oh I wasn't feeling the thing can we go again
and I'm like " you just gave me gold" " but I didn't feel it" and
I'm like " The audience will" sometimes you can let them have
another and sometimes you just say " trust me, the audience will be
there cos I was" . another beautiful image our boy goin down for
the last time even though everybody already knew he was gonna be on
Angel

I loved revving Felicia up to as much intensity as we could get
that was fun, right there we're going around the lot our little lot
and then this actually miniatures and CGI and I'm just obsessed
with people running and jumping on things the big leap and so I got
one at the end of my show . Its an old trick there was another
old trick( Sunnydale falls away .. I love that by the way you
couldn't have a better description of what happened to Sunnydale)
the first trick was she jumped the bus drove under her but
actually they happened at different times and we were still doing
something which we did when Faith fell into the truck they were
talking about the bag how to cheat the perspective and I was
like can't we just shoot them both and then do a split screen?
And then of course this I have to say, the endless road behind
them was something that came from Tony Head he pointed out " oh
that's beautiful an endless horizon it's a perfect image for the
rest of the show and the rest of their lives and I was like " yeah
that's great except I parked in front of it and you guys play in
front of the bus and we're never gonna see it" So I gave that moment
to Sarah of just looking out and seeing that horizon cos I agreed
with Tony I thought it was beautiful and I didn't think it should be
missed. And then of course that poor sign which in one incarnation
or another has been knocked down so many times

Again I had very much planned not to have any reason for Anya's
death any reason behind it or any reason to come after it , but
the writer in me couldn't not resolve it somewhat I think the
audience needed what Xander needed which was something and that
something was Andrew learning that the think that he's sort of
reviled for, making up stories becomes the thing that he helps
Xander with becomes the thing that he actually is good at, giving
her the epic death that she didn't actually get to have

( Faith/ Wood) I think that these two have as grown up and textured
a relationship as any of the characters on this show and they had
about four scenes together total so I love that about them I
love how much goes on in each of them when he dies dying, having
a character die and then suddenly bringing them back to life is
something you can only actually earn after you've killed a couple
so this was a nice opportunity to say this isn't over yet, to
have the call back and I wouldn't have been able to do it if I
hadn't legitimately offed a few beloved characters

And then we come to what is the final shot, needless to say we
shot this one a bunch of times I had this in my head from the
start when we first did it we started up high and it looked kind
of fake and cheesy and they're of course playing against an abyss
that isn't there but I knew this was going to be a one er I knew
it was going to be a slow push in we started to shoot it and then
Ray the DP said you know what? the lights not that good the winds
not that good lets just leave the crane arm and go shoot the
little bits in front of the bus So we held off for about four hours
and came back, tried again everybody getting their lines a tough
thing, everybody being in the right place in frame but I wanted it
to just be everyone and to end with the close up of Buffy because
what this shot ultimately is about is what a lot of the shows
about which is that the story goes on that there is closure but
not a closing that what we've seen is a life being formed like the
cookie dough speech explains , this a life in progress a life that
in some ways is just beginning, like that smile. That's all I have
to say thanks for watching my show.
 
Magui said:
COOL!!.Thank you for posting this!!😀😀


7 hours...didn't Sarah have 7 hours to shot Bangel happy ending?..🙁🙁

You're welcome. Now, I need to go back and read all of it again! 🙂
Somewhere in one of the commentaries, Joss comments that they had David for one day to shoot their scenes. I'll have to go back and see, but I think that you are right.

Could you add a thread on the "Latest News and Announcements" section that this is here in this section? I don't know if this should be there too to let people know... whatever you think is best.
 
I dont wanna read it!
Well...I read the parts about Anya...but that was it...
Im gonna save it till I get the DVD...
 
I kinda just skimmed that...it was very very very long...but thanks for posting it..what I actually read was pretty cool...
 
Season 7 Buffy DVD Commentary for LMPTM, Act 1 & 2

Buffy, Season 7 DVD set commentary: LMPTM Transcript, Act 1

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Act One

DF. That's actually an artificial push in I neglected to push in on DB as I wanted to when we shot that cos, you know , young director but you know we were able to add in in electronically

DF this was a tough scene from the writing standpoint, we struggled with it, we probably went through about eight drafts

DG Yeah the biggest problem was it's length was it's length, we knew what the scene could have in it but if we put everything that the scene could have in it it was an eight page scene It was long, long, long, and as well played and as well acted as it is it's just a long time to be in the same room

DF I think what we ultimately decided was we got to allow the exposition to happen in this sort of "Who's on first" homage that ( I love the way DB plays this)

DG Yeah nice


DB it was actually a lot of fun for me this actually was the first time that I worked with Anthony it's the first time that I worked with him

DF yean and Tony brings up everyone's performance like that

DB He's great, so much fun


DF that's one of those camera moves that I'm working on keep that camera moving in a very static scene is what I'm doing and DB had this great thing where he comes in and says " you're a freelance demon fighter" and he's like embarrassed and don't mention that and goes to the door and closes it

DB that's one of the things my secretary doesn't know about me though

DF yeah

DG it really helped to motivate the move to the desk

Sarah is so great in this scene she has the ability to deliver comedy in such a kind of, it's kind of a low key way but it's hysterical

(DGs names come upon screen) DG. I like that part right there

(DFs name comes up) DG that parts less interesting



Here's the whose on first routine

DBs eye work is outstanding


DF you know we have a problem on our shows where we become our own worst enemies with our extensive mythology and sometimes it's hard to just get into any of this and one of the methods that we use is to just completely make fun of ourselves
Because at the end of the day it does get a bit ridiculous

Much laughter

DF now here's one of those flaws that you notice it's something that's interesting because some people pick up on it and some people don't, one of the things you try for when you're shooting is eye line, if you see Buffy is looking off to the right and so is Tony they're supposed to be speaking to each other and both looking off to the right and that's actually technically incorrect although most people unless I mention it don't really notice

DG wow I did not notice that
DF yeah I probably shouldn't have mentioned it. Actually Tony's being shot from Robin's point of view right now although he's conversing with Buffy so it kind of throws the loop a bit

DG but you know in some strange way it works because you've set it up in the master so we know where everybody is
DF that's mumble mumble mumble . (not a clue what he said here sorry) I do remember thinking that this was the worst eye lined episode I've ever been a part of. Much laughter including a distinctive JM giggle

DG again another scene that was very difficult to write because so much exposition had to be explained about what it is we're doing to Spike with that stone what's going on what it does
JM and yet the characters are still in conflict which is a constrict on how you write it

DG his is definitely, I don't know how you feel about this Fury but this was one of the most difficult scripts to write

DF oh yeah

DG because there's so much who's the good guy who's the bad guy who ya know ,with some scripts you have a very clear opinion this one is very yeah you know the shades of grey take a long time to sort of suss out

DF for me that was not so much the more difficult part the more difficult part was as you were saying, there's so much mythology there's so much back story there's so much hidden agenda, so many things that need to be expressed that it's in danger, it can be in danger of bogging down the story and clouding it .The greys in there I kind of enjoy, the fact that we're sympathetic to Spike and we're sympathetic to Wood and Giles

JM yeah but then you go and stick a worm in my eye I mean that's cool

DG yeah a little CGI effect , it was a long time trying to get this the right looking stone, our prop guy spent a long time trying to find the right stone that would look the way it was described

DG the wonderful thing about this scene was that I remember standing there that day and it was a kind of a long day and watching James do this over and over and over again and what's amazing to me is how great the acting is when you don't even know what it's going to look like at the end of the day I just remember seeing this and thinking that it was great

DF this was also a kind of a tricky shot the wide shot which was the transition piece we're going into Spikes head and I wanted to have him seeing himself as we angled round pre vampire

DG. (As JM giggles at the terrible poetry) I so enjoyed the first thing I wrote because I had to write the scene for when we were casting the Mother of Spike, Ann, and I had to write this scene so the first thing I wrote was the poem and I was so proud of how bad it is ( laughter all round ) bad is hard to write. I can write bad Victorian poetry

JM it's hard to write good bad poetry. And they finally spent some real money and actually built a wig for me and gave me these mutton chops which to tell you the truth I know they're period but they look kind of weird to me

DF yeah the thing that troubled me was that we could not get we could not match you the way we did the way you looked when we last seen you in Fool For Love

JM they'd already cannibalised that wig for later in Fool For Love

DF yeah but you would think they'd be able to completely copy it you would think and yet they wanted to put their own touch on it or something

JM well you finally gave them money so they wanted to do it real period
..
DF well

JM that's what you get for giving the artists money man, they get fancy (giggles)

DF well we won't do that again

DG I love how this scene really sets up the relationship that he has with his Mother

DF yeah yah it's really seeing Spike as William .His humanity and the love he has for his Mother and to not make him too much of a mommas boy . But of course he is

JM (laughing) because he sits at her feet. Cos you know

DF while she sings "¦ alright he's a Mommas boy but there's such genuine love when he says I'll always take care of you whatever it is ,that's so very sweet and warm

JM yeah


DF another tricky FX shot James had to keep his head still to match this

JM which is really hard for James to do . You know that's tough

DF but whaddya know he does it beautifully that was actually really nice and his eyes change first which was. We'd never done a two part morph before

JM and here's where you just don't think about how silly you feel. Cos all the really cool stuffs being done later and I'm just freaking out for fifteen minutes

DF yeah. And it took a half an hour to drop the stone and get it in frame

You know what when in doubt always push in on DB

JM yeah

End of act one

Buffy, Season 7 DVD set commentary: LMPTM Transcript, Act 2

As before, all credit goes to deborahw37 for her tireless work in transcribing these and sharing with us!

Act Two

JM I love this scene because Spike is in absolute denial and it's hilarious

DG it's like anyone else's fault but his, anything but what's really happening

DF Oh I love that "when I was a baby""¦ she sang it to him when he was like thirty years old (laughter)

DF oh here's an interesting thing you remember this Drew? This scene started the act we didn't come back this way for quite a while and there was a long extended scene that Drew wrote that was a really funny exchange between Xander and Tom Lenk as Andrew that we just couldn't get to work and it didn't quite"¦ it worked so much better to break it up like this cos we'd be in the cellar for so
long that it was better that we broke it up rather than start the act with this

JM wasn't there also a scene with DB and me in the kitchen that didn't make it?
DF yes
JM around a whisky bottle
DF Another scene that broke my heart to lose. This episode came in at what twelve minutes over which was ironic cos a lot of my episodes come in short but you see when I shoot them I shoot every little detail.
Of course the stage whisper that obviously Spike can hear every word but he sits there pretending that he can't like super vampire hearing.
This is a transition I liked doing, it's him looking at his hand and this hand slips into it and right now. It's Juliet
DG now I'll tell you that one of the things that I think makes this show so special is this scene right here that captured these two people who are absolutely terrifying you know and yet there's a kind of humour to it that's just pitch perfect
DF That's the magic for me of Spike and Drusilla, that they were perversely funny and yet terrifying
DG it's kind of like Bonnie and Clyde
DF and yet genuinely care about each other and I think that's the key to the villains in the Joss Whedon universe is they actually have an agenda and they care about things as opposed to just being evil
JM Something about Juliet got me to a place I couldn't get any other time I can just be very me when I'm with her she can go ,she's just DF oh and she's blowing in your face which I remember.

JM it's drying my eyeballs out and I can't concentrate on my lines

DF Spike and Drusilla are so iconic and the two of you are, it was such a pleasure to shoot this iconic couple one of the last times in a Buffy.

JM And what you got so well was the intermediate for my
character ,the intermediate step between being William and Spike which we never had done that

DF when you were Spilliam

Giggles. Oh sorry

JM It's just that when I got the script I thought that was really, really cool

DG I remember coming down to the set and watching the period and James working so hard on that , you guys really worked at you getting that Spilliam as you say over and over which I don't think a director who hadn't written it would have really

DF lets James get a look at this collar right now I mean James
just messed up his collar cos he wanted that's part of his suit
coming undone , his whole appearance becoming undone and turning closer to Spike

JM well he's been partying for like two days or so. Does that sound familiar?

DF unfortunately the costumer kept straightening the collar between shots and James was like "Leave my collar alone!! I'm trying to, this is a thing! It's my character"

You know I owe a huge debt of gratitude to the actors for their performances in this and James particularly. The actress here who played his Mother whose name unfortunately I can't think of, I wish I could and please forgive me it was there right at the beginning of the show and I've neglected to look but she's a wonderful ,wonderful, I think she did an
Amazing job here I was very happy with her

JM yeah she was great
DF I think that what you two do together is amazing
JM the thing was though David that you were very specific you were one of the most specific directors you and Joss as far as acting as far as doing a take that so many other people would have taken and
moved on and moved me just like one millimetre the other way and really I thought you were one of the two best directors for actors you and Joss

DB (oh yeah what I actually love about you with me is you really, really gave me room and space to bring other things in and kind of mix things up and no one had actually done that on the show before and I feel that this in this episode is my best performance and I actually owe it to number one the writing of you guys and of course my co star here who kept pushing me to be better.

DF While we're praising David Fury here you know what I loved about you guys is how much you loved working with me

Laughter

DG No I will just say that as a writer there's so many different
ways a director can screw things up ( JM chuckles) And it was just such a joy to watch everything get infinitely better and that's a credit to Fury and to you guys and to our entire cast

JM Frankly I'm, oh go ahead I'm sorry

DG no, no it's just I'm so proud of this episode I'm so proud to
be a part of the way that this turned out and oh, here's my
favourite scene

DF it's interesting that this is your favourite scene because this scene really kicked your butt

DG well that's why it's my favourite it's because I probably did
twelve drafts of it and finally Fury just came in and ( DB I love
this scene man) just rewrote all of it and it turned out great

DF well more so I think I saw in it I guess I had the picture in my head of how it could work. I mean there's a concern here because Giles is making a big character turn here in that he is going to side with the idea of killing Spike after Spike has been so much of an ally so often and people had a hard time buying it but it's because I believe, I knew in my head the way these guys were to perform it and I knew that DB would deliver it such a way that it would make such a convincing argument that you would buy that Giles would see the logic in it .That for the greater good Spike needed to go as much as it may have pained him and I really think,
I have to say DB that this is one of my very favourite scenes that you're that you're really here just listening to Tony

JM God I love this scene because when you guys shot it I got to take a nap and that was "get it right David, take your time, get everything you need"

DF well that was a very long nap because I took a very long time

JM I like a long nap

DB what I like about this scene is just being able to really open this character up in a vulnerable way , not do all the kind of yelling and screaming that this is what we need to do but really to kind of open up and allow Tony to see this characters pain and from that place even though he's talking in a lot of pain there's still logic to what he's saying and trying to fuse those two it was difficult but a lot of fun right there.
DF I love this moment right here with that emphatic "never NEVER!!"
so much so that I really wanted to be on DB in the edit there it almost pained me to cut off him We did it for Tony's reaction but it was a very powerful moment

DG you've gotta have his reaction

DF yeah it's that there are alternate things to know. Now here's where we cut to the very first shot that I shot in the show Db the walk and talk in the cemetery but what had actually come before was the scene we were talking about in the kitchen ,there's a scene where essentially Wood is stalking through the house towards the kitchen seeing Spike in the kitchen and basically it's moving in on him and setting him up for the trap and there's a great ,great scene between you guys where you're sort of playing a little chess match where we used a bottle of whisky , pushing it
back and forth and it's almost like chess moves as we're kind of feeling each other out and I really miss the fact we had to cut that scene.

JM well, you wrote a movie and you had to shoot a TV show, you wrote ninety minutes

DG well I'll be turning in much shorter scripts from now on

Oh the other thing about this scene there was believe me it
seemed like a wild party going on at the time or some such thing it was a mariachi band playing through this entire scene and we had to wait between songs to get little snippets of dialogue so it took us forever to shoot this scene it was the first night and it was just because somebody was on a loudspeaker shouting in Spanish and a mariachi band were playing ,it was very funny for a while but it became sort of tragic as we were trying to make our night DF It got worse cos it started with just helicopters and cars honking ( JM chuckles) and you would say " what possibly could happen next?" and then a mariachi band

And I want to point out we were in cemetery somebody had a mariachi party next to a cemetery

DG yeah well, we're a party town
 
LMPTM Commentary, Part 3

Buffy, Season 7 DVD set commentary: LMPTM Transcript, Part 3

As before, all credit goes to deborahw37!
🙂

Part three

This is as far as I'm gonna get tonight, this one is taking much
longer than Chosen because of the multiple voices . I'll do act
four after work tomorrow night


DB this little room is where James and I spent a lot of days

JM Party time with DB

DB we were, I remember we spent some long nights in there and I felt bad because I felt maybe James and I were getting on everybody's nerves because we were so jazzed. It's like we had done like, you know two bottles of mountain dew. Just bouncing off the walls

DF I don't think I anybody was irritated. In fact you infused so
much energy and so care from everyone that in fact I think it
raised the bar for everyone to make these scenes great between the two of you in terms of setting up the stunts in terms of the lighting we did a lot of 360s and 180s in that regard that we can move the camera in kind of a wide arc and use the space because it was kind of built to be lit from above so we didn't have to have lighting

JM oh yeah

DF and it made quite a difference I know that I love this frame I think this whole scene was great I just loved the set up of DB in the foreground

JM and I love how you let me just stay still, a lot of directors
want me to move around and it's so much smarter to stay still

DF I love that too actually. Now this is just you feeling
everything out, you're not going to be running around a room full of crosses anyway. I like that you want to stay where you are. Stay away from the walls

Oh shirt, I forgot about the shirt, DB shall we talk about the
shirt?

DB oh my God I told you to forget about that.

DF We had such a discussion, DB wanted very much to be wearing this tank top

DB yeah the tank top for the muscles

DF and I totally got that I totally wanted to see him in it, but
by the same token we have a stunt that we were going to do that we do in the next act that would have made wearing that shirt impossible , there's no way to hide the harness that we needed to pull him back . So we went back and forth with it discussing can you lose the shirt? Can you be in the tank top?

DB can we get it back on in time?

DF How do we get it back on? How do we make it all seem seamless? And not like "I'm taking my shirt off I'm putting it back on, I'm taking it off

JM but you have to believe that this guy could beat up a vampire and when DB takes his shirt off you're like "Oh Ok"

DF I was so there I so know and that's why I said "you know what
he's absolutely right we need him to look like this. And it's
(whispers) "how do I get that shirt back on?"
DB For me also it's to show that I mean in the acting to be so
physical and so brutal that way , just kind of would add to the
little twist at the end getting my butt kicked
DG. You know every act ends on DBs face

Act break


DG I love this scene right here

DF I think I had the best time ever shooting this scene because of James and oh my God I wish I could remember her name

DB was her name Anne?

DG the characters name was Anne which was for those Buffy fans, it's never mentioned in the script but it's of course Buffy's middle name

DB I did not know that

DF so we called her Ann to kind of because you know we wanted, there's definitely a little bit of a Motherly, there's a Motherly sort of a symbolic connection here between Spike and his Mother and Buffy and what Buffy's been to Spike and you know all the oedipal issues that would be involved there it just seemed like a nice touch

DG I remember you running into my office saying we've found the woman, she looks like Sarah at that age

DG yeah well she had the blonde hair and she was small, and she was British which was wonderful because part of the thing is finding an actress who can do a good British accent

DF oh I love this scene, this scene our first drafts of this we
didn't push it far enough and Joss came in and said make it more twisted, more twisted. Which I hated hearing of course because I'm like very conservative

JM (laughs) Oh yeah safety first Fury

DF I had to call my Mum and say "Mum I love you very much and this whole scene about possibly having sex with you has nothing to do with it (Laughter)

JM he made me do it, he made me do it Mum

DF and the wonderful thing here is just the matter of factness of her cruelty

DG yes it's beautiful

JM yeah and you worked like a long time for this one

DF she was wonderful because she totally got it, I mean even when she realised " You know what I'm becoming too arch I'm becoming too villainous" and I'd say yep you're right , bring it back, just be casual and when she did it was just very chilling I thought and the pain of watching you go through this pain as she's saying these words to you that's fascinating and it's also offered a lot of controversy , there's been a lot of controversy with my opinions about Spike and about his, the nature of Spike and a lot of people are concerned why is Spike, why is Spike letting her talk to him in that way? Why is he so hurt? He's a vampire why would he, why does
he seem. And I Think that was the point of this episode it was to say Spike is an anomaly in the vampire world, he has some facet of his soul even if it was removed when he became a vampire is still, he has more humanity as a vampire tan most vampires do. We haven't explained why that is but perhaps something about the character of
him as a man and he's retained it as a vampire

JM yeah I mean it's a kind of a technicality that you have to
explain but it works as the character

DB This section here I think is so brutal

JM.. yeah

DF now here's an interesting story, Tony wasn't here for this scene that's a stunt double I had to shoot this scene with Sarah and the stunt double this was the first night and we let Tony go cos we were running late and shot Tony's side of it ten days later

DG I did not know that

DF Tony's not even they're not even in the same space. What I did was I used the stunt doubles to tie him in, that's the only shot of Tony I had and that's now the stunt double ten days later and it works it's amazing it's the magic of editing

DG It works well

DF you know he seems like he's in the same space but she wasn't there that night

That's the stunt double getting rough

DG it's so good

DF it's so wonderful that he can deliver this performance when he's not getting the lines from Sarah, they're being read very flatly off screen by somebody and yet he's able to deliver a performance that seems to be right on top of them

It was also shot his part was shot in an entirely different
cemetery so it's not even the same space in the same time he's in a different part of the cemetery entirely

DB It was so wild because I really, really connected to his
character

(DF, there goes the shirt back on)

DB and it was so wild to be in this moment and to think that you've finally I mean that this character has been searching for this one vampire his entire life and here he is finally somewhere in Sunnydale he's found the vampire that has killed his Mother which changed his life for ever. And it was just this kind of surreal moment

DF You went to a place as an actor I saw it in you, you went to a place , I saw tears streaming down your face ( DB oh it was rough) and I was flabbergasted I went " my God he's there" what a .God it's brilliant that you could do that

DB I tell you though that as an actor it's just when everything
just kind of locks up, when you have the writing the directing and working with James was lets just put it this way I've been spoiled and now I'm dreading the rest of my acting life . so James and I got to find stuff to do

DF you surely will, we'll bring you onto Angel

JM well this job got a lot more fun with you being here on board I finally got someone to be in conflict with

DF now this story line the Spike side of it we originally conceived for Never Leave me it was episode 9
DG after Sleeper the episode where we were trying to get to the root of what the song was we talked about

DF and we broke the story with all these flashbacks and then
decided it was just way too much for one episode

JM and now Spike wakes up

DF and now DB gets to take the beating .And it was really important that he gets in a couple of licks

DB what I like though is that you still don't know for sure that
he's gonna lose, because he doesn't believe it , he just has this blind conviction that he's the good guy

DF he's righteous and he just keeps coming and keeps coming

JM I totally believe that Wood could win; we've seen him dust three or four vampires already

DG oh watch there's the kick
JM look at that yeah yeah this was great just right now

DF Spike is superhuman ok now here's the stunt that we needed (everyone gasps as Wood flies through the air, collective "Wow"). That's what we needed the harness for and that's why we needed the shirt back on

DG In another life they probably could have been friends Spike and Wood

DF I think if the show had continued and Spike had not sacrificed himself that it probably would have happened

DG Alright and here comes the, this shot right? We did like four or five days later

DF the reason was I shot this it was this was the shot and James' performance tome was so riveting and moving that I went "I don't need a close up" because it was so brilliant

JM and we were also pressed for time a little bit so perhaps that's

DF yeah I wad pressed for time yeah every instant I was out there but besides that I said no , I was practically weeping how great it was and it was only the next couple of days later that I went you know what I and we were back in the space again so I said lets do that close up so yeah , he turned it back on we put him back in the make up with the burn mark on his face

JM oh yeah man it was a hold up putting that burn make up off and on and keeping that continuity

DF and I was so glad I got the close up, well as brilliant as you
were in the over the shoulder I'm glad I got that close up in there

JM and I got to walk across the room as if I was very tired, which I always like to do that
(Laughs) I'm serious!

DF and those are tears; those are DBs real tears I was staring at the monitor going wow!

DB it's all because of James' performance he just kept giving it ad giving it (DF I know) Man it was incredible

DF a lot of morphs in this episode
 
Magui said:
*Feels dumb cuz she read the 'whole' article*😛😀

LOL. 😛 I'm glad that you all have enjoyed it; I did too! I'll post the last part of "Lies My Parents Told Me" tomorrow when she finishes it. 🙂
 
That guy should not be named DB,...it is confusing(David Boreanaz)!!😛 lol😀
Thank you for posting this cindy,this information is pretty cool and interesting😀
 
Magui said:
That guy should not be named DB,...it is confusing(David Boreanaz)!!😛 lol😀
Thank you for posting this cindy,this information is pretty cool and interesting😀
😀 I know what you mean-- it is pretty confusing; I keep thinking David too, then remind myself what epi it is and think "Oh yeah-- D.B. Woodside!"

I've enjoyed reading them too; now I want to get out my tapes of Season 7 that I recorded and watch those episodes again and try to follow along! Obsessive?? Nah!! 🙄
 
Coolies
I was hoping that Emma Caulfield done a commentary for 'Selfless'
That would've been cool...Dunno whether she has done it though!
 
Act 4 Commentary for LMPTM

LMPTM Commentary from Season 7, Buffy DVD set; transcribed by, you got it-- deborahw37 who we appreciate so much!!

DG. I remember we did one take where DB screamed as James bit into him. With this passionate scream which was very powerful but it didn't seem right for our show , we just usually don't play the horror of being bitten by these creatures but it was still , it was like a very gallant effort

JM and one of the few guy on guy bites I ever had and it was me that bites him

DF yeah our fans I'm sure were crying for it

DB oh James bites like no one else I Know

JM oh baby (giggles)

DF that's true, I can attest to that. (James giggles again). Now Drew remember that this was the scene that Spike, sorry that Giles confesses to having killed Ben, which we thought, or I thought was pretty relevant in the circumstance because he's telling Buffy that she won't go, she won't go down to the mat when it comes down to killing Spike for the greater good . And Giles I thought really needed to tell her "I killed Ben, he was an innocent, and Ben who I
killed to keep Glory from coming back and that was the end of season five. And I was so adamant that it must be in there and we shot this long speech of his confession, and when we looked at it afterwards we went "nobody cares, nobody wants to hear about Ben, that was two seasons ago. I built the whole scene around that and ten I went " Oh Okay"

DG And you were so passionate about it

DF I was!!

DG I raised a minor objection and you slapped me

DF I did

DG Right in the face!

DF which is not the last time it happened

DG (Doing Fury voice) "That's enough talkback from you Goddard!"

DB now the one request I have is that when you Guys bring Spike back
(DG Ok)]
DB Can he please comes back without my Mothers jacket? . Give him a cool jacket

DF No promises my friend
DB I actually love this scene with Sarah , she was so incredible this day, she really actually took care of me this day , she didn't want me to exhaust myself emotionally until the close ups she was very, you know that I could keep it in for all her stuff, se just wanted me to save it for my side. She was wonderful this way really good.

DF and she knew exactly what she wanted to do with this scene, she knew she wanted to walk in, help you up and walk back and take in the room. She really had all the decisions, and they're correct.

JM oh man this eye make up was so making you crazy and I was like I so feel for you because it used to do exactly the same thing to me man, I'm vain. (Giggles)

DF it was really important to show that DB, or Principal Wood I
should say, when he takes a beating if, you know from a super strong vampire, he pays for it. We see Buffy and Spike taking beatings, but because of their super strength they, you never have to put much make up on them; they never get that badly hurt. But DB getting worked over by Spike needed to, we needed to show that this was pretty devastating to his body

DB I loved that last line and how it just ripped right through his
heart, there.

DG and this episode is all about, you know, killing your parents
both literally and figuratively What we think, Fury, when we were talking about this, we were sort of realising the story that Giles, that in a way Buffy is severing the ties with her Father in this scene.

DF Well that's how originally I titled the episode Mother and Son but it was Drew that made me realise that it's not just about Spike and Wood and their Mothers, it's about Buffy and her Father figure, Giles, which prompted us to change the title to "Lies My Parents Told Me"

Screen caps come up

And they're the bosses

Laughter

Yeah our glorious, glorious bosses


JM Damn you made me stay for the whole thing I'm never gonna buy those T shirts now, you knew that! "Come in for ten, ten minutes" you said, you knew I'd still be here

DF "Hey we're still on you know

JM Oh (giggles)
DF Yes James was buying T shirts. And these are some of the
wonderful people who work on Buffy. Anyway that's it from me, David Fury, and Me DB Woodside, Goodbye I `m James. And Goddard"¦ It's done

GRRR ARGH

I asked Deborah; she said that sadly, while there is a commentary for "Selfless", Emma is on it. 🙁

I asked Deborah; she said that sadly, while there is a commentary for "Selfless", Emma is not part of it. 🙁
 
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