season 7..zzzzzz

It had some good episodes, and all, but I think the sotry line was a bit thin.
Introducing Nathan Fillion was a good move. He could totally have pulled it off as the big bad by himself. But the whole ubervamps and bringers brought together wasn't something I fancied.

But kudos to Nathan! He was amazing
 
It had some good episodes, and all, but I think the sotry line was a bit thin.
Introducing Nathan Fillion was a good move. He could totally have pulled it off as the big bad by himself. But the whole ubervamps and bringers brought together wasn't something I fancied.

But kudos to Nathan! He was amazing

I was actually a lot more freaked out by Caleb then of the First. Haha, imagine that.
 
^me too... I think it's why I am having a bit trouble imagining Nathan as the good guy in Dr. Horrible. He freaked me so much out on Buffy.
 
I really think The First would have made a wonderful, scary big bad but sadly it wasn't used to its full potential. I think you'd enjoy the season if you're a Spuffy/Spike/Buffy fan, but when you're a fan of other characters... not so much. I like Spike and Buffy and don't mind Spuffy, but I wanted all the characters to shine, it was the last season. Thank God for S8.
 
I agree, Ellyce. I could not have said it better myself.
I'm going to start with saying that 7 is my second to favorite season (6 is my first) which I know is not what *most fans would say, I guess. I liked the darkness in 6. It made the show more real, in my opinion, whatever that means.
And I loved the Spuffy storyline in 7.
And yes, I can't stand Kennedy and the Potenials are irritating, but a nice idea non the less.
 
I kind of liked season seven, though it was not my favorite, for sure. I just HATED Kennedy.
 
its the whole... when i think of it i go "Meh" but when i watch it i love it...

and Him is a great episode with comic golden nuggets of erm... gold in it... the anya/willow argument over him is fantastically HI-larious
 
I agree, Ellyce. I could not have said it better myself.
I'm going to start with saying that 7 is my second to favorite season (6 is my first) which I know is not what *most fans would say, I guess. I liked the darkness in 6. It made the show more real, in my opinion, whatever that means.
And I loved the Spuffy storyline in 7.
And yes, I can't stand Kennedy and the Potenials are irritating, but a nice idea non the less.

Thanks! *blushes* Season 7 is, of course, my favorite because of the Spuffy relationship and story this season, as I've alreayd said. But everything else was just... lacking. But Spuffy continues to amaze me whenever I watch this season, and that's why it remains my favorite. Oh dear god, Kennedy and the potentials were unbearable. The only one that I found to be remotely tolerable was the one from China, she never did anything but sometimes she said funny stuff. *laughs*
 
Personally, I intensely disliked the way all of the characters were written in Season 7, to the point where one of my major objectives in signing up for this board was to whine about it. All of them read to me like cardboard cutouts of themselves.

Buffy: "My idea of an inspirational speech is telling everybody they're going to die, a speech which I will repeat approximately five hundred times or until everyone's ears have started to bleed. Also, everyone should follow my instructions in spite of the fact that they are transcendentally retarded, because I am the main character and the screenwriters will not allow me to fail (see below."
Spike: "I used to be a likable bad boy. Now, with a soul, I am apparently still a bad boy but have ceased to be likable. It is a bitter testimony to the horribleness of this season that I nonetheless manage to be one of its highlights."
Xander (pre-eye-pokage): "RA, RA, RA! GO TEAM BUFFY!"
Xander (post-eye-pokage): "I am disillusioned by the fall of my idol, and can never have the same confidence in her again. Hang on a sec, I need to betray Dawn's trust because Buffy told me to."
Anya: "It's so hard making up my mind whether I want to be a serial killer or not."
Willow: "I cannot be on screen for five consecutive seconds without someone worrying about my ability to do magic. After faffing about to no particular purpose for 21 episodes, I will suddenly and for no obvious reason conquer my Inner Demon, a fact that you will have to extrapolate from my hair colour because the screenwriters ran out of time for actual dialogue."
Kennedy: "Hi! I'm a lesbian, you're a lesbian, I just skipped out on my duties with a bogus excuse, wanna screw?"
Kennedy (alternative version): "The only reason for my existence is to reassure the gay lobby that Willow is indeed gay, thereby invalidating everything she did during the first three and a half seasons."
Giles: "I am inexplicably the only person concerned about the fact that we have a superpowered serial killer in the basement who may at any moment turn into the Manchurian Candidate and slaughter us all. Everyone hates me because of this."
The Potentials: "Joss Whedon is an atheist. This is obvious because the only logical reason for our presence would be to disprove the existence of a beneficent God."
Robin Wood: "This show has hitherto successfully avoided using ethnic stereotypes, so let's add a wisecracking black sidekick."
Faith: "Hello, I like sex and parties!"
Caleb: "The screenwriters thought about how they wanted to wrap things up, took a careful look at the message of the last six seasons, and decided that the series could basically be summed up as a feminist diatribe."
Dawn: Words fail me.

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With that out of the way, allow me to complain a little more specifically about what passes for Buffy's planning during this season.

The show always tried to present Buffy's leadership skills as more impressive than they actually were, but that's another rant for another time. During the seventh season, the writers apparently decided to emphasize her qualities as a general, and this is a problem because she doesn't have any. Not only do her endless harangues prove her utterly inadequate as a charismatic leader, but she repeatedly makes plans which are presented as brilliant in spite of the fact that they make no sense. Here I am referring not only to the original assault on the Vineyard, which the show itself quasi-acknowledges to have been stupid, but to her planning thereafter, which is ridiculously bad yet is presented as brilliant.

Given how long this post already is, I'll limit myself to pointing out three flaws in her plans for the Final Battle:

1. She has a superweapon in the form of Spike's amulet, but no idea of what it does. Instead of trying to ascertain this, she promptly commits Spike to the front lines. For all she knew, the amulet could have acted as a suicide bomb which would have killed everyone standing near Spike.
2. She has a very powerful witch on her side, who is about to perform a spell that will greatly empower her army. She promptly commits said army to combat while the spell is in progress, removing Willow from the battle and risking having the Potentials killed before the spell is even complete. What was wrong with coming back the next day with empowered Potentials and a rested Willow?
3. She's worried about the enemy escaping the school, a minimal concern since it's daylight. In order to stop dozens of desperate super-vampires, a single one of which nearly killed her earlier in the season, she guards the exits with such terrifying forces as the Anya and Andrew Death Battalion. Of all her bad decisions, this one really takes the cake. There is no logical reason for it and it is a blatantly obvious effort on the part of the screenwriters to give beloved characters something to do, however pointless. Showing a crippled Xander joining forces with Dawn to slaughter the Turok-Han en masse does nothing to give those characters a decent send-off; it merely confirms that the once-terrifying enemy is now apparently made of papier-mache.
 
Sweetescape
Sweetescape
you sumed up my feelings on S7 so well :)
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Heee!!! This post is awesome!
Buffy: "My idea of an inspirational speech is telling everybody they're going to die, a speech which I will repeat approximately five hundred times or until everyone's ears have started to bleed. Also, everyone should follow my instructions in spite of the fact that they are transcendentally retarded, because I am the main character and the screenwriters will not allow me to fail

Word!!!!

Giles: "I am inexplicably the only person concerned about the fact that we have a superpowered serial killer in the basement who may at any moment turn into the Manchurian Candidate and slaughter us all. Everyone hates me because of this."

*Hugs Giles* I've always thought I was the only one who saw his point.

While S7 fills me with bitterness, I'm not as upset with it as I used to be. Thankfully, there are some stuff in it that I loved and I've grown to accept some of the annoying bits in it.
 
I will throw in that I was not a fan of the potentials at all. I loved that Faith was brought back and I love that she got all groiny with Wood in true Faith fashion. Oh how I love that girl.
 
BuffyElevated
BuffyElevated
LOL WOOHOO! I'm right there with you- Faith ROCKS! :D
Parcae, I agree with a lot of your points in your post. I didn't like S7 as much as the other seasons, but I won't say I hated it completely. It's definitely a more dark season, and I didn't like some of the "major" things about S7, such as the potentials (who actually might not have been so bad had the actresses they cast not played them as such whiny little brats), Kennedy and Willow (I hated Kennedy's character from day 1), and Buffy's "I'm better than everyone else" attitude. I just didn't like the season very much. I can appreciate it for what it was, but the season itself was very boring to me.
 
I felt it was a mixed bag. As pointed out earlier, Buffy didn't make the wisest of decisions, however, I guess it was a way to wrap things up by explaining we're all not without fault no matter what responsibilities are thrust upon us. My biggest gripe was the core characters. It was the last season and hardly any time was paid to them. Hell! Even Xander wasn't in an episode. (Conversations with Dead People). It made little to no sense at all to end a show with it's highly popular and beloved characters and not give them any screen time or great revelations. I felt this was sacrificed to impart the Buffy and Spike relationship which I liked, don't get me wrong, but it wasn't the essence of the show. The end was rushed. Suddenly, things are in high gear because the end is nigh... which just so happens to be at the exact time that Buffy gets the scythe. It was rushed and I have to agree as to ponder why didn't she wait until the spell to activate all the slayers had been cast. And the overall logistics of the final plan made absolutely no sense in this aspect. You activate the slayers, the formulate your plan, having SLAYERS at the three possible exits. Which, come to think of it, why would it have mattered if the ubervamps got out... it was daylight?
Now, I can put aside all of that because the finale was in itself wonderful and brilliant and still makes me cry, but little WTFs like that always make me wonder if this final season was indeed rushed and if much thought was put into it. I guess I feel cheated because my beloved favorites were reduced to cannon fodder, so to speak. No core unity whatsoever that inspired me. Not my favorite season, obviously, but tolerable.
 
Season 7 was a really good season, but it had major plotholes, inconsistencies and missed opportunities that bring it down overall. However, the episode-to-episode consistency is great. There's not a bad eppy in the whole season, a first for BtVS. I also liked the arc with Buffy's character unlike many.
 
Season 7 was a weird one for me...one viewing I'll hate, the next I'll like it, next time I hate it.

While most of the seasons sort of got off to weak starts and then got progressively better, season 7 had a great start (with the exception of Beneath You), and then crashed around Sleeper. The entire middle was pretty tragic...it picked up again in the last 7 episodes. I wasn't very satisfied with Chosen as the finale, the Potentials were a horrible idea (the final season of a show should be about going back to basics...not introducing a bazillion new characters and taking substantial focus off the core ones), and I think my biggest complaint is that season 7 didn't feel as rooted in reality as the first 6 did...it wasn't relatable. The main draw of BTVS for me is you're watching real people dealing with real life problems, just with a clever supernatural twist. Season 7 felt like an extended comic book, completely detached from reality. It's one of the many things I hate about the comics too.
 
I think I just need to sit down and rewatch all the Season of Buffy from beginning to end, even the episodes I'm not fond of. I think the more times I watch the series the greater love and respect I will have for it. And maybe Season 7 will grow on me if I watch it all over again, too....
 
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