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Oh God, Kennedy is back? And I thought we've seen the last of her.

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Just when you think the Buffy side of this season cannot get any worse, they make Buffy a bodyguard. It's just gimmick upon gimmick with this title. Ugh.

Angel and Faith has been the better book by miles, and from these solicitations that appears to continue throughout the Summer. I'm looking forward to seeing how Willow and Angel get to a stage where they are working with each other.

Totally agree about the Angel and Faith book being much better. Having Willow cross over is awesome and Connor also!! I used to hate Connor, now getting excited about seeing him again.
 
I really like those new covers ! The second cover for Angel & Faith is particularly interesting. And yay for Connor !!!

I enjoy the idea of Buffy being a bodyguard, I think it can bring some good storylines. And I know that it's not popular, but I really like Kennedy, so I'm glad to see her again in the comics ♥ To see her as Buffy's boss sounds really promising, haha ! 😛
 
Buffy Season 9 #8 "“ Comic Review
After the surprising conclusion to Buffy #7, that left our protagonist armless and a little more cyborg-y than we're used to, issue #8 was bound to be interesting. Of course, the part that makes this issue truly interesting is that it is Andrew heavy issue. Andrew Wells, for those of you Buffy readers that are a little less familiar, is the fun loving gay Geek who first appeared in season 6 of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer TV series (a little before that lovely musical episode). Being a true Geek, the scenes involving Andrew are packed to death with awesome little Geek references and a whole ton of Star Trek jokes. There is even a great nod to the comic series' executive producer, Joss Whedon, as at one point Andrew blatantly holds up an Avengers T-shirt in this Dark Horse comic book.

As we might expect with any robo-Buffy moment, Andrew is of course involved. Spike and Buffy interrogate him and we finally get the background of what Buffy did that drunken night back in issue #1 of season 9. Surprisingly this issue is packed with a lot of implied female nudity, which is both ironic and hilarious in an issue focusing so heavily on an obviously (but as of yet un-closeted) gay character. So any fans dying to see what the naked back of Buffy or a few other females in this comic series might look like"¦this is $3 you simply must spend.

As always with Dark Horse's Buffy comics, the spirit of the show continues on here to perfection, as editor Scott Allie runs a tight ship with high standards for the loving, if not obsessive, fans of the show and characters. Most of this team actually worked together on Dark Horse's Dollhouse comic series in fact. And though Georges Jeanty is not handling the pencils on this storyline, Cliff Richards (who will be the penciler for the upcoming Drusilla mini-series) does a brilliant job making the change over very smooth. I might go so far as to say that Cliff Richards is doing a better job that Jeanty did. Buffy #8 is just part 1 of the new C:\>apart (of_me) storyline, but it's certainly a brilliant start.



The Rating Bit

Pandering so beautifully to the Geek fnas of the series, with its countless little references and jokes, as well as really returning the supporting cast to the series, Buffy #8 is a truly fun read. Throw in a little bit of implied nudity, funny jokes, and good art, you create an issue of Buffy that even non-Buffy fans might want to pick up. Buffy season 9 #8 is a great read, well deserving of the 8 out of 10 we are giving it. Sure the interior art could be a little more like its regularly lovely covers from Noto (and Jo Chen in the past), but the writing is positively hilarious. Make sure to pick up a copy when it goes on sale this Wednesday.
 
Nah, the gist is that the reviewer likes Andrew very, very much and thinks other fans like him too which I don't think it's the case. From my experience the writers adore Andrew far more than most fans do. IMO, Andrew is by far the most one-dimensional and boring character in the Buffyverse and the ultimate writer's pet. I am a geek and I find Andrew's jokes painfully unfunny.

As for the implied nudity I doubt many would give money for it in this day and age. Anyone can find not so implied nudity on the Internet, not to mention the art of Buffy S9 is kind of ugly anyway.
 
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Recap: BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER SEASON 9 #8

Posted on April 9, 2012 by Dawn Cordero


Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Buffy's not pregnant"¦ because she's a robot! Millions of fans said WTF!? This month on Buffy the Vampire Slayer [SPOILER ALERT]As if you couldn't tell by the cover "” Andrew's back! and he's got some "˜splaining to do to BuffyBot and Spike. Andrew tells them that he switched Buffy with the Bot while she was passed out at the party and put Buffy's brain in the Bot in order to protect her from whomever it is that's after her. He's hiding the real Buffy in some suburban hell. Buffy Bot is sad because she thought she was a real little girl and making a mature decision but it was just more Slayer WTFery. Andrew, Spike, Buffy Bot and the Cockroach Crew all head down to retrieve the real slayer but someone gets to her first!

Side note: I love all of the Captain America and Avengers stuff in Andrew's room. But there is something that really bugged me during the Buffy-gets-roofied flashback"¦

Why does this pig/bear thing have penis feet? WHY??? All the other times this pig/bear thing is shown "” normal feet. WHY IS IT LIKE THIS IN THIS PANEL??!! I see your initials Cliff Richards. I know this is your fault.

Detective Dowling is all upset because his partner's been devoured by the zompires so he goes to visit Dawn and Xander:

She's back"¦
And here's a note: I don't tell you everything that happens in the book because I want you to go out and read it yourself because these comics are awesome. So no more complaining that it's not really a review, mmmkay?

Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 9 Issue #8 "A Part of Me Part One" is available this Wednesday, 4/11/12.

Weirder and weirder...

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Kean agrees: That paragraph about the flashback? What. The. Actual. F&CK.

Exactly. I remember tons of angry posts discussing the possibility of that scenario. So, what? We're back to square one? Being shoved in a robot body is now a metaphor of
being roofied
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104 - 13.89 - ANGEL & FAITH #8 - 17,829
 
Kean
Kean
That paragraph about the flashback? What. The. Actual. F&CK.
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Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Buffy Season 9 #8 Review (SPOILERS)

Moving on from the pregnancy plot (and yes it is really and truly over so far as I can tell), Buffy Season 9 begins on the path of a new and very different story arc with issue #8 called "Apart (of me)." I have just one word for you to sum up the surprising direction things are headed, but not just yet. Let's talk about a few other sundries first.

First, the good news. If you're smart and you figured out how the whole "Buffy is a robot" thing works, then you already know that some of the emotional stuff from last issue still holds. That's my way of saying that Buffy and Spike's relationship is still growing and evolving in a way that I find emotionally satisfying.

There's also a solid B plot surrounding the death of Cheung and the emotional fallout from that with a special guest appearance from Xander and Dawn. I'm relieved that the other members of the cast aren't getting lost in the shuffle. One of the good things about the actual show was that there were always multiple threads coming together all the time and I feel like Season 9 is doing a much better job of that than Season 8 did.

That's the good. The less good news, and I can't imagine anyone will be surprised if they've read the solicits for later issues, is Andrew. Oh, Andrew. Never my favorite, but boy did I not anticipate he'd regress into the sort of dude who could justify taking a woman's agency away completely. DON'T WORRY, THOUGH BECAUSE HE WAS DOING IT FOR BUFFY'S OWN GOOD.

Right. Here's the narrative flaw for me. I need to believe Andrew would do what he did (and, yes, it's a little complicated so I'll leave some of the details for when you read it.) My beef is that I don't buy that Andrew would take the actions that he has and, furthermore, that Buffy or Spike would allow him to continue, you know, BREATHING after they figured it out. I suppose you could argue he is a necessary evil in this moment but, BOY, am I not loving where his story has gone.

Buffy Season 9 #8 is a good but mixed bag, basically. On the one hand, there's exciting stuff on the horizon and it feels like we'll be getting interesting character development for more than just Buffy. On the other, I felt like I had to swallow some bitter pills and accept some stuff I didn't want to in order to focus on the things that are good. Then again, I've felt that way since long before the show became a comic so, hand on heart, maybe I'm just that guy, you know?

Alright. Back to that one word that is going to describe the rest of "Apart (of me)." Did you work it out while reading reviews on the interwebs? If not, then here it is "“ Dollhouse. Soak it in because, baby, you don't know the half of it.

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Detailed recap of #8, by Zianna (thank you, Zianna!)


OK, here is the detailed summary.

The issue begins in Andrew's room. He's sleeping when suddenly he see two figures coming into from his window. He thinks they are aliens coming for him and he seems happy about it. But it's just a very pissed Buffy and Spike and Andrew seems disappointed about it. Buffy gets right to the point, asking him what did he do with her body, while Andrew tries to act surprised like he doesn't know anything about it which drives Buffy mad and she's ready to hit him.

The scene changes and we see detective Downling in the morgue. He sees the dead body of his partner and he confirms it's her. To make a long story short, the forensic coroner tells him that her injuries are consistent with the recent zompires' attacks, and that he has to perform an autopsy to determine whether her death was because of exsanguination or neck trauma.

Back to Buffy. They're talking about the pregnancy, and Andrew says that probably it was a problem in the Ph balance of the trueblood inside the robotic body. And he asks Buffy to "forgive" him for not programming the robot about her period, which made Buffy take the pregnancy test. And the reason that Buffy was feeling sick and she was vomiting, was because he didn't program well the robotic body on how to process food eating. But Andrew is glad to help Buffy, so he offers her a new arm, the only problem is that it's a left one, if she doesn't mind having two lefts. Buffy again very angry, wants to know why she's a robot though. So Andrew tells her that Spike asked him to help, which makes Buffy really angry at Spike and she turns at him ready to hit him. Spike in defense says that he had no idea and no intention of going back that road again with a Buffybot as a sex slave. So Andrew explains better saying that he was asked to find information about the threat and who was after Buffy, but he's not good at that.

So we get the flashbacks from the party. Andrew and Buffy are talking. He gives her a drink, he has spiked her drink. (In #1 we also see Andrew giving that drink to Buffy, @Veiriti had posted those panels here some weeks ago predicting it). Here now we also see Buffy drinking it and Andrew looking satisfied. He roofied her, that's how she ended up in her bedroom with Spike. More flashbacks about it. Spike helps Buffy getting into her bedroom, after the pool/partying thing. Buffy is very "drunk" but still talking and openly flirts with Spike. So "drunk" that she takes of her blouse in front of him, half naked, and she passes out on her bed. Spike looks at her, and like a gentleman, he covers her with a bed-sheet. All that time Andrew was watching Buffy and Spike from across the hall. When Spike left, he went to Buffy's room with the robot. They had with them a plunger kind of device. The robot was able to talk and move. It takes off its clothes and gets naked like Buffy. And Andrew uses the device to transfer Buffy's mind into the robot, and whatever the robot had in Buffy's body.

Back in the present. So Buffy believes that she's not real, but Andrew explains that only her body isn't real, but she's Buffy in a robotic body. And her says even more, that all that technology was Warren's that he found it in his lab and he stole the tech. But Buffy should feel lucky that the only problem she had was that she thought she was pregnant, since that mind swap thing could have left her permanently drunk, for example. And that last comment makes Spike furious ready to attack Andrew for what he's put Buffy through. Andrew tries to explain that he was only trying to help, which makes Buffy now angry telling him that if that was his intention then he should have talked to her about it and not act on his own. Again with Andrew's stupid justification, he says that in witness protection people can't know anything, that's why he didn't say anything. He had done a lot of bad things in S6 with the trio, but now he's changed and he uses all that knowledge to help, that's why he's now a part of the scoobie gang. And Buffy angrily replies, "No, Andrew, this is how you screw it up!" Spike steps in, saying that the threat was gone, Siphon was stopped, so enough of this, why is Buffy still a robot and not knowing anything? So Buffy again asks the question where the hell is her body.

We go to the suburbias. A very well dressed Buffy is getting out of a car, driver's place. She goes inside, changes her clothes, goes out for some gardening, uses the washing machine, starts cooking. Living the perfect life of the perfect housewife.

Back in the spaceship now. Buffy is looking out of the window and she's crying. Spike comes and Buffy asks him to say something stupid, needy or creepy to make her forget. Forget about the fact that for the first time in her life she was facing a real life decision and she was being responsible about it making the hard decisions. But she was wrong, again it was a slayer's thing, nothing more. All her problems were fake, but the only thing that was real for her it was Spike himself, showing up when she needed him. She touches Spike's left shoulder and thanks him. Spike takes her hand inside his and they just look into each other's eyes smiling at each other. And Spike leaves her alone, looking happy about it.

We go to Andrew and the bugs. Andrew wants the bugs to turn on the cloaking device so that nobody can follow them to Buffy's body, but the bugs have no idea what he's talking about. Spike comes, he puts on his game face and attacks Andrew. "If I wasn't possessed of such a rational nature, I could succumb to a fit of rage. Pitch you off this ant trap for the baby scare if nothing else. Any idea what that was like for her? If you don't fix this, you and I will have problems...with one decisive solution!" Finally somebody threatens Andrew, although he wasn't punched in the face.

We go to Xander and Dawn. Xander does what he does best in S9. He takes a shower, what else (does he work in construction or in the city dump?) He asks Dawn to get him his eye patch that he left on the nightstand but Dawn doesn't reply. Xander gets angry, hits the wall tile and breaks it. "Coming. Wow, relax" says Dawn when she comes and sees it, and Xander replies "Sorry, I just didn't know where you..." only to get interrupted by the door bell. It's detective Dowling. Dawn tells him that they still haven't heard anything from Buffy but the detective tells her that he knows the truth, he's just seen Buffy, and that she's a robot now and he just wants to talk about it. There was a zompire attack, dead officers everywhere, and his partner was killed. they drained her. He is shocked and surprised that a girl in Dawn's age can deal with that so easily. Back to the morgue, where we see his partner's dead body, rising from the dead and becoming a zompire, attacking and killing the coroner.

Back in the spaceship. Spike, Buffy, Andrew and the bugs are heading to Mill Valley, a town near San Francisco. Andrew just talks and talks, not even the bugs understand what he says. There are cameras inside the safe house where Buffy's body is, and Andrew uses them to see how's Buffy's body doing. Buffy and Spike look at it. A very nice house, and Buffy's body is cooking in a very awesome kitchen. Not only the kitchen, the living room as well, as Andrew shows them. "This what you had in mind if we were gonna run away, slayer?" Spike asks. "It wasn't..." Buffy says, unable to say more. But something goes wrong, the silent alarm starts, there is something going on in the safe house. Somebody wearing a mask wit ha gun attacks Buffy's body, telling her that she's going to liberate her from this Betty crocker bullshit. And hits her on the head with the gun knocking her unconscious. Last panel, a van is outside the suburban house. It leaves us with the impression that Buffy's body was kidnapped (again...) and placed inside the van. The person takes off the mask, and we see Simone.



To be continued..
 
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Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Buffyfest Talks 'Buffy' #8 with Scott Allie (Part 2)
Last week we spoke to Scott Allie about all things horror and scotched in an interview about Buffy #8 "A(part) of Me", which is in stores and available for digital download today. Scott is currently on his way to Chicago's C2E2 Expo and if you're in the Chicago area, you should definitely check it out as Dark Horse is making some exciting announcements! Ok, on with the show...


Buffyfest: Hey Scott! So what Andrew has done to Buffy's mind closely resembles early Dollhouse technology, was that the intention?

Scott Allie: Sort of. The Dollhouse angle wasn't in the original plan from Joss, but as we started figuring out how to make the details work with the robot and the mind transference, Dollhouse came to mind. Riffing on Dollhouse seemed to make sense, gave us a short hand, especially with Andrew Chambliss working on the comic, and Cliff drawing it, after he'd drawn the Dollhouse comic. I was able to reference the device from Dollhouse in the script and Cliff already knew what it was.

Buffyfest: It’s made clear that homemaker Buffy is not what robot Buffy had planned. Did Andrew create that personality or…?

SA: Mm, yeah. More to come on that, but yes. Andrew programmed something to take the place of Buffy's personality.

Buffyfest: In the opening pages, there’s a lot of pop culture references littered throughout Andrew’s room (Star Wars, Tranformers, Lady Gaga, Glee.) With Cliff Richard’s penciling, did you leave it to him to come up with what Andrew’s room would look like, or did you and Andrew Chambliss come up with those details?

SA: I threw a lot of specifics in there, but Cliff added a lot too. I think I suggested Gaga, and he came up with Glee. I think, anyway.

Buffyfest: The zompires have been creeping into the story more and more throughout the season, now especially with Detective Miranda Cheung becoming one. Will they continue to play a major part in the narrative as the story progresses?

SA: They'll continue to be important, and involved in some of the turning points of the story, but they're not the whole story. And they're not ultimately the Big Bad. They're relatively minor presence in the next arc, "Guarded", which has Andrew Chambliss and Georges back. They grow more important again in Buffy #14 & 15, where we have guest writers digging a bit more into what's going on with zompires.

Buffyfest: Hand on your heart – someone you love is killed and gets sired. What’s harder to deal with emotionally – a vampire or a zompire?

SA: I suspect a vampire. A zompire can't manipulate you, it's just a monster. If you knew your child were a monster, and you had to kill it, or even just flee it, that would be unimaginably bad. But if it was talking to you while you were fighting for your life ... worse, I think.

Buffyfest: It's nice to see Dawn and Xander again but why is Xander raging so much? He pretty much Hulk-Smashed that tile.

SA: He is indeed grumpy. Things have not entirely gone Xander's way. More to come on that. That story comes to a head right before the final arc.

Buffyfest: By the way, Buffy losing an arm… Star Wars reference? Is Darth Vader her father? Be honest…

SA: This was Joss's idea, and he is a bit of a Star Wars fan, so ...

Buffyfest: We've noticed a big divide within Buffy fandom where many fans are downright angry at the reveal of Buffy being a robot and never having been pregnant vs. a new legion of fans (mostly on Tumblr) who have responded very positively to the story. What do you think of this anomaly?

SA: We expected it. We liked the idea, and felt that others would—but we also knew there'd be some backlash. I've seen criticisms from people thinking that we ruined our own story about abortion by saying she was never pregnant. And that would be true if the abortion, or the pregnancy, were the most important thing about Season 9. I hope that when it's all said and done most people will think it all added up. I have no delusions that everyone would think that.

Buffyfest: Why did Dark Horse decided to change the cover of #8?

SA: I want to show exciting things on covers. I don't want to ruin stories, but I want to strike a balance. We're not doing our jobs if the covers are boring. So for every cover of Spike and Buffy sipping wine on a couch, there needs to be one where she's getting part of her body chopped off. Every time Georges does cover sketches, he literally does 10 or 12, compared to the 2 or 2.5 that other artists do. When Georges did this sketch, we loved it, and wanted to use it, but you'll notice we actually put it on the issue AFTER the arm gets hacked off. So it was out there, people knew it was coming, but when it happened in issue #7 hopefully it was still somewhat of a surprise. When Georges drew the robot arm being hacked off, we went back and forth about how to show that it was a fake arm. I think the initial sketch had blood. Georges tried a few different ways of drawing the sparks. Then Michelle colored it, and it didn't look right, so Georges tried another way of doing the shoulder. She colored it again, and it looked great. In all that mucking around, we talked a lot about the cover, and came up with the idea to conceal the fact that she was a robot by going back to the bloody shoulder version. So Georges drew a patch, Michelle colored it yet again, and we decided to spoil the arm being torn off, but mislead a little bit by concealing the fact that the arm is mechanical.

Buffyfest: The Drusilla mini-series has been shelved but we know you've been planning other minis for Season 9. Do you know who you'll be focusing on having their own mini-series next?

SA: I do. We'll be announcing at Chicago, C2E2. I think word will get out on Thursday, at the retailer presentation, and then in more detail on the Dark Horse panel on Friday. I wish you guys were gonna be there.

Buffyfest: Us too! Will that mini-series be moved up now?

SA: Actually, yes and no. And I'll tell you guys this. It's two series. One is being moved up slightly, one is not. For a couple reasons—in part because of the scheduling change on Drusilla, and in part because of where and when we need that character doing other stuff in the two main books. While we started with a detailed outline, a lot changed over time. Things changed for the characters in ways we didn't initially predict or understand, and so where each character is, what they're doing, has changed as the story has gone on.

Buffyfest: We're definitely looking forward to it! Thanks, Scott.

Look out for some extra tidbits about that C2E2 announcement here on Buffyfest this Friday!
 
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Interview With Buffy Editor and Writer Scott Allie: Part Two

On April 11, 2012 at 4:30 pm

Dark Horse editor Scott Allie chats with Persephone Magazine about Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season Nine’s big moments and fans’ burning questions on the release of the latest issue. This is part two of two in a series of interviews with the Buffy comic editor and writer. Warning: major spoilers for issues #1-8 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season Nine.

Last month, Persephone Magazine caught up with Allie to talk about what’s been going on with our favorite slayer. In addition to discussing the recent pregnancy storyline, we touched on a certain mind-boggling revelation that took place in issue #7—you know, the one where Buffy is a robot? As it turns out, the story is a little more complicated than we originally may have thought. On the release of the aptly titled, “Apart (of Me) Part One,” we once again get to pick the brain of the editor and co-writer himself, Mr. Allie.


Buffy discovers that Andrew spiked her drink and switched her body with a robot in issue #8.

Persephone Magazine: Okay, so maybe you can help us wrap our heads around this new development. How could a robot Buffy believe that she was pregnant?

Scott: Through the various imperfections of Andrew’s Buffybot, Buffy’s consciousness, which is in the ’bot, mistakenly came to believe that she was pregnant.

A lot of people (myself included) feel very uncomfortable with what Andrew did to Buffy, without her consent, and feel that it crosses into some icky territory.

Oh yeah, it’s very bad territory. Andrew will have a lot to make up for. Andrew has certain considerable moral blind spots. He faces a lot of anger from Buffy and Spike in my arc, but they need him, so they don’t toss him.

There seems to be a lot of political satire at play in issue #8—especially when it comes to Andrew’s decision to “protect” Buffy without her consent. This is extraordinarily paternalistic. Was there a conscious effort on your part to draw a parallel to the current political climate surrounding women’s reproductive rights? Or am I reaching for a connection here because of the recent abortion storyline?

No, it’s intentional. Or a lot of it is, but then some of it just naturally rises out of the situation. Andrew hijacked her body. Andrew made decisions about her body—why? For her own good, of course. Obviously Andrew is an imperfect stand-in for our paternalistic society, but that’s where the art comes in, so to speak. That is, if Riley were behind this, or if the Watcher Council had reformed somehow, it would be sort of on the nose. Even though the pregnancy is revealed to be fake, the themes that we brought up in these issues will reverberate through the season. Buffy will be dealing with the decision she made, even if she doesn’t deal with the act itself. This season is not about abortion, but even more than other stories, it’s about choices we make, and about the things that this young woman, who was Chosen, is going to choose to do with her life now.

So, in a way, the abortion storyline was a more literal manifestation of the themes of this arc as a whole?

Yeah. The abortion storyline was one aspect of Buffy’s story of determining her own future as an adult. That’s always what this season was meant to be about, and this arc explores it in a particular way. The next arc tackles in in another way.

Will Buffy be able to forgive Andrew for what he did?

Buffy is angry at Andrew for "trying to help" her without her consent.

Being Buffy, she’ll want to. As I said, she believes she needs his help right now. But it’s not going to be easy.

Was anyone else was in on Andrew’s plot?

No. He thought he’d be more of a hero if he acted alone. He got the tech he needed from Warren’s place at the end of Season 8, and that’s where he got the idea to try this.

Okay, so I have to ask this one—how could Spike have been fooled by the Buffybot? Can’t he smell the real Buffy a mile away?

That’s not a bad point, he has some experience with the Buffybot, so he should have detected this. There was a line about that in at one point, but we got rid of it. I’m foggy on a vampire’s ability to smell. I recently had a question for Juliet Landau about one of her scripts, relating to that.

This question is cross-overish with Angel, the television series, so forgive me, but the suburban setting that Buffy’s body was being kept in reminded me a lot of the suburban hell dimension from the episode “Underneath.” Coincidence?

I don’t know, you’d have to ask Joss. Maybe this is him returning to that well, in some sense. But in writing the scripts, I’ve been thinking a lot more about Dollhouse than Angel.

That’s very interesting. Why the Dollhouse connection?

Well, it was all Joss’s idea to put the consciousness of Buffy in a Buffybot, who wouldn’t realize she was not Buffy, and also to put a Stepford Buffy consciousness in the actual Buffy. It seemed very Dollhouse to me, and then we had Andrew [Chambliss] working on it, so it just seemed natural, unavoidable. Even Cliff, the artist on this arc, was the artist on our Dollhouse series. It got to where, in writing the scripts, I felt like I had to reference Dollhouse a little bit, because it was an elephant in the room. Dollhouse has a lot to do with free will, self-determination, and so it’s a natural touchstone for this whole season.

While Buffy’s pregnancy/robot plot has gotten a lot of attention, Xander and Dawn have sort of faded to the background. Xander slamming his hand into the wall out of anger was a bit startling. What is going on with them?

They’re in trouble. Their plot will start coming forward, but you need to wait a bit longer. I get into it a little more in #9, but then in #10 things get too complicated with Buffy to really deal with them, unfortunately. It will be quite a while yet before their story really takes off, but it’s been percolating nice and quietly on the side for a while. There have been clues …

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Cover art for an upcoming issue.


Like when Xander was flirting with Buffy at the party a couple issues back?

He wasn’t flirting. That scene was widely misread. You were meant to misread it, so, good Joss, but there was a lot going on in that interaction that will make more sense later.

At the end the issue we see Buffy the housewife being thrown into the back of a van by Simone, who declares that she is going to liberate Buffy from “this Betty Crocker bull&%$@.” Can you any teasers about what’s to come?

Simone’s still mad about the end of magic, the end of the Slayer army, the fact that Buffy wouldn’t go militant in quite the way Simone wanted her to. I think she’s mostly mad about never having a shot at being number one. So she has plans for Buffy, and she found out that the girl running around the wharfs in San Francisco wasn’t really her, and that the real Buffy was in hiding. She didn’t know the true nature of Buffy’s suburban arrangements, but she was intent on showing Buffy who the best Slayer was.



Well, there you have it, Persephoneers! I hope you’ve enjoyed my two part interview series with Scott Allie! Maybe we can convince him to come back for more.



Preview: Angel and Faith #9

Story by Christos Gage
Art by Rebekah Isaacs
Colors by Dan Jackson
Cover by Steve Morris, Rebekah Isaacs
Publisher Dark Horse Comics
Cover Price: $3.50
Release Date Wed, April 25th, 2012

Still reeling from her father’s unexpected appearance, Faith goes rogue, taking on Drusilla and her pet demon. It’s time to burn off some anger. Angel is hot on her tail, but he may be too late to save her from Dru, and ultimately herself.

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[MENTION=10410]zianna[/MENTION] - yes, apparently, Angel says something life-affirming to Faith, and his speech causes Dru's reaction.

And - yes, spoiler tags don't work for pics. 🙁
 
About the developments in "Buffy" and Andrew's scheming and screwing Buffy's life up, neither asking permission or even giving advance warning, using the old "It's really for her own good" ploy to justify what can be seen as nothing short of mind rape, I have only one question.

Has Andrew been hanging around Angel lately? Because this is classic Angel behavior.
 
Oh, boy. This whole robot thing is just so.....yawn. Bored now.

Glad to see that it looks like Buffy's pregnancy "storyline" won't be drawn out needlessly. Life goes on, I guess.
 
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Looks like Joss planned to spin-off Spike later in the season, but the cancellation of "Drusilla" mini changed DH's plans.

I love Spike, but I'm not sure I'm interested in reading about him fighting demons and looking for the chards of the Seed. I love seeing him interact with Buffy. I hoped to see him interact with Xander and Willow.

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Allie spoke about the "Buffy" line of comics, calling the multiple series "probably our strongest line right now." While the announced "Drusilla" series was recently put on hold, the Editor announced that Jeff Parker and Brian Ching will team for a "Willow" series with covers by David Mack and "Buffy" fan favorite Megan Lara. Also in store is a "Spike" series by Victor Gischler and Paul Lee with covers by former IDW "Angel" cover artist Jenny Frison and Steve Morris launching in August. For three months at the end of the summer, Dark Horse will ship a Buffy book every week with hopes that it will draw the faithful fans into stores each and every Wednesday. Allie also said that the future issues of the main "Buffy" title will focus on the villains and feature pages by the legendary Russ Heath.
 
Scott Allie Talks Spike and Willow miniseries with CBR.
Two new tie-ins for Dark Horse's "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" are on their way and Scott Allie discusses how Victor Gischler, Jeff Parker and more brought "Spike" and "Willow" to solo series

When Dark Horse Comics announced earlier this month that the planned "Drusilla" miniseries -- a tie-in to the popular "Buffy The Vampire Slayer Season 9" ongoing -- would be delayed from release indefinitely, many followers of Joss Whedon's universe of horror adventure felt the pain. But someone else felt the gap strongly too: "Buffy" editor Scott Allie.

To help keep the world of "Season 9" growing strong, Allie and the Dark Horse team announced on Thursday's pre-C2E2 Diamond Retailer summit that two more tie-in series would launch before year's end: the five-issue "Spike" story by Victor Gischler and Paul Lee with covers by former IDW "Angel" cover artist Jenny Frison and Steve Morris launching in August and a "Willow" series by Jeff Parker and Brian Ching with covers by David Mack and "Buffy" fan-favorite Megan Lara to follow. CBR News caught up with Allie in advance of the Chicago show for insight into what fans can expect when "Buffy" books go weekly late in the summer.

"We've been working on these, and we moved up the announcement a bit to deal with the fact that Dru is gone for now. We felt we needed to do something positive for the fans after we had to do something that I've never done before -- pull a title after the first issue has been solicited," he said. "This will be the extent of 'Season 9' -- a total of five titles."

Spike, of course, only recently rejoined Buffy and the Scooby Gang after a run on his own at IDW Publishing. Though Allie said he'd be spinning off solo again for reasons people might not understand until they read the upcoming tenth issue of "Buffy Season 9," which he is writing. "In issue #10, Buffy and Spike say goodbye for a little while. The miniseries picks up shortly thereafter. It fits neatly into the flow of the season, and it's not a flashback," the editor said of how his last Buffy writing gig for a while leads in. "In my issue #10, there's a moment I'm really happy with where Spike's dialogue to Buffy when they're saying goodbye reflects my current understanding of the character. He's sort of revising his attitude towards Buffy a little bit right now.

"It's interesting because some of the real diehard Spike fans feel like we're behind the times on this -- that Spike got over Buffy. I don't know if he's really over Buffy, but I feel like there's an opportunity for Spike's feelings about Buffy to evolve a little bit. It's not for him to create this huge distance between them, but just for him to take a new swipe at it. I think in the past his love for Buffy hasn't always been the most positive thing for him. That can really drag a guy down."

From there, the question of who to take the vampire over the next part of his journey came about, and Allie said Gischler had a serendipitous start. "Victor and I have been talking for a little while about doing some books and talking about some creator-owned stuff we could do. But he also had expressed that he was a fan of the Whedon-verse. I've read a bunch of his stuff now, but in particular it was the 'Punisher On The Bayou' trade that I read, and similar to ['Angel & Faith' writer] Chris Gage, it just took one really good book to make an impression on me and make me say, 'Okay, I've got to work with this guy.' The Punisher book made me think he could bring a fresh perspective to Whedon's stuff. [Gischler] has a great voice and a really good understanding of story, and we knew roughly what we wanted to do with Spike, and he felt like the guy for it. He's been really fun to work with so far."

Allie added that he was excited to bring on Frison as a cover artist for this series as "I think this is the first time we've had somebody who worked on the IDW books come to work on the Dark Horse books. We at Dark Horse are all big fans of Jenny, and we liked her IDW 'Angel' covers quite a bit."

Overall, creative synergy was a big piece of the puzzle for Allie in making "Spike" work the way it had to. "We've had a great round of phone calls with the new writers to the line and the established writers," he said. "It was kind of like a mobile summit like the one we had from before 'Season 9' started with Joss and Andrew [Chambliss]. Now occasionally we all get together on the phone to refresh and touch base. So starting these new books, we had a chance to get the new people on the phone and throw ideas around. In small ways, there are things Victor is doing in this story that come from Joss or Chris or Andrew or Sierra [Hahn, my assistant] or me. We all talked about where we felt like Spike was at."

On the "Willow" front, the editor promised that the series will pay off many unanswered questions about where the character has been since the destruction of The Seed which removed magic from the world. "Willow was the only character where we knew we were going to do a 'Willow' series ever since we started 'Season 9,'" Allie said. "Willow's got a particular journey she's got to take that we couldn't do in 'Buffy' because it would detract from Buddy's story too much. As it turned out, Chris [Gage] had a great idea for how part of that story can be placed in 'Angel & Faith' and so that story will start in issue #11 through #14."

Creatively, this is actually a return to the Buffy-verse for Jeff Parker who drew a story for 2003's "Tales of the Vampires" anthology series. But, as Allie noted, "He's never done a big thing for us. We recently announced that we're doing a print collection of his webcomic 'Bucko,' but Jeff hasn't done enough for Dark Horse yet -- it's great to have him writing a pretty significant series for us at the same time he has a webcomic graphic novel coming out. I've been buddies with Jeff for a long time, and our kids go to school together [here in Portland] so I see him at birthday parties and stuff. To work with him, it's an interesting extension."

On the art side for "Willow," Brian Ching moves over from Dark Horse's "Star Wars" line of comics. "We felt like he would bring something a little different to the Whedon line. And for him, it's the first time he's dealing with likenesses in a major way, which I'm sure can not be fun," Allie said. "One of the super cool things about 'Willow' is that we have some liberty in how we present her basically because Allison Hannigan is super cool."

Overall, Allie said the goal for tie-in series like "Spike" and "Willow" is to fit seamlessly into the fabric of "Season 9" on the whole. "We want these books to tie significantly to what's going on in the season. There's no reason to do them unless they do," he said. "So Victor and Andrew need to be at an understanding as to where the characters are at, or similarly, Willow will show up in 'Angel & Faith' for a little while so Chris had to be on the same page with where Andrew Chambliss had her, and we've got to make sure that remains smooth [into the 'Willow' series]. That can be difficult because a lot is in flux."

The editor also noted that the large collaboration has also brought in a few familiar faces from Buffy's past. "Jane Espenson and Drew Greenberg are coming on to write a 'Buffy' story arc soon, and we had to make sure they were really caught up on where Buffy is at and where the Scoobies are at -- which is sort of nowhere -- in order to make their issues synch up properly with where they fall in the series. They had a very specific story they wanted to tell, and we had to alter it to fit it into 'Season 9.' That involved input from Andrew and from me and Sierra, and it makes it fun. It's a fun, collaborative process.

"There was a lot of conversation," Allie concluded. "It's fun to try and work out the logistics of how this stuff works -- particularly with characters who move from one title to another. With Willow, she's in 'Buffy' until issue #5 where she disappears, then she's missing until she pops back up in 'Angel & Faith' and then after a few months, Andrew needs her back in a particular issue of 'Buffy' so we had to make sure we fit the 'Willow' series in at the right moment. I'm sure this is what Marvel editors' days are full of, but not me."

"Spike" #1 by Victor Gischler and Paul Lee debuts in August, and "Willow" #1 by Jeff Parker and Brian Ching bows in November.
 
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