Sequel Trilogy

Off topic, but I wanted to see what people thought:
My current theory is that the reason there's these new Buffy books coming out (the sequel trilogy and the prequel books) is that they're seeing if there'll be an audience for a new TV series; books are cheaper to make and get people stirring up the conversation about Buffy.
 
Off topic, but I wanted to see what people thought:
My current theory is that the reason there's these new Buffy books coming out (the sequel trilogy and the prequel books) is that they're seeing if there'll be an audience for a new TV series; books are cheaper to make and get people stirring up the conversation about Buffy.
I hope not. It would seem more like a reboot and less like a sequel. I am not interested in it nor would I be interested in the future.
 
It's one way to explore things but a slayer-witch that sounds like too much :s
Hard to get a full opinion with so little but unless it's somehow made into a tv show I won't even give it a chance haha
 
@Cohen I can get started on it, if you’d like! I have been meaning to read it anyways

Side note, is that new prequel Spike book tied into this whole “trilogy” as well? Or is that totally unrelated.
 
I think the Spike one is unrelated but Spikes characterization in this book is definitely something I need to discuss. And Willow’s. It’s just… I feel that they are using legacy characters to con us back into reading it, because the Slayer/Chosen books were not well received but… if you’re going to mischaracterize them… don’t bother including them. They really should have sent edit copies to Alyson and James… and maybe some of the writers like Jane, and even Christopher Golden or Nancy Holder who both were some of the best Buffy authors of the book series. Because while I’m interested in the storyline of the new characters, the Mischaracterizations of the legacies really take me out of the story. Mainly Spike. He’s just so far from Spike. 😩😩
 
I think the Spike one is unrelated but Spikes characterization in this book is definitely something I need to discuss. And Willow’s.
I’ve been reading some Buffy books lately and this seems to be a thing in many of them, the characterization is sometimes way off. I read La Lune Des Coyotes (probably called Coyote Moon in the original) and was wondering throughout why Buffy and Willow would ever be friends Xander, while Giles just seemed incompetent. I agree that it kind of takes you out of the story when the characters seem a bit off.
 
I’ve been reading some Buffy books lately and this seems to be a thing in many of them, the characterization is sometimes way off. I read La Lune Des Coyotes (probably called Coyote Moon in the original) and was wondering throughout why Buffy and Willow would ever be friends Xander, while Giles just seemed incompetent. I agree that it kind of takes you out of the story when the characters seem a bit off.
Exactly! When they get random writers to do stories, they don’t always capture the essence of the characters. Fun fact, “Halloween Rain” and “Coyote Moon” were the first two Buffy books I ever bought. I was so excited to get to read Buffy! I was 9!
 
Taake
Taake
Aw, 9! I feel old now :p
Plasma
Plasma
9? Pretty sure ol’ geezer Taake mentioned they were at least 80 when they bought those novels… 🤔
I feel very old! I still have them on my shelf! I’m such a nostalgic guy! I can’t get rid of them! But for real, when authors don’t correctly characterize our beloved heroes, it just takes you out of the fantasy. I keep thinking ”This is NOT Spike!” 😩
 
I’ve been reading some Buffy books lately and this seems to be a thing in many of them, the characterization is sometimes way off. I read La Lune Des Coyotes (probably called Coyote Moon in the original) and was wondering throughout why Buffy and Willow would ever be friends Xander, while Giles just seemed incompetent. I agree that it kind of takes you out of the story when the characters seem a bit off.

Joss has a very distinct style, and the cast obviously added their own flair to the characters. If you’ve ever read his work on the X-Men for example, his voice is very much different than anyone else.

Trying to replicate that sort of style is almost always destined to fail.

An additional issue is the fact that a novel has to last for well over 200 pages. An episode of the show is done and over in 45 minutes. Naturally an author has to stretch things out, and it opens the door for more inconsistencies and irregularities with the characterizations.
 
Joss has a very distinct style, and the cast obviously added their own flair to the characters. If you’ve ever read his work on the X-Men for example, his voice is very much different than anyone else.

Trying to replicate that sort of style is almost always destined to fail.

An additional issue is the fact that a novel has to last for well over 200 pages. An episode of the show is done and over in 45 minutes. Naturally an author has to stretch things out, and it opens the door for more inconsistencies and irregularities with the characterizations.

I agree to an extent, however some authors under the exact same conditions do get the characters right. Pressumably because they’ve made an effort in research (studying the show
/characters). So I’m not giving a pass to those who don’t. Also, generally these books are a bare 150 pages, they’re not writing Buffy the War & Peace edition, it is essentially an episode (which is why the novel version of the pilot is the same basic page count as the rest), so the stretching is limited.

The difficulty of Whedon’s style however, very true.
 
So I just finished “Into Every Generation,” and while I still don’t like the portrayals of Willow and Spike, I ended up not hating the book, or the new characters. I’m still kind of grossed out by the First Slayer spirit like impregnating willow… it reads too Savior story to me… but that part aside… Frankie being a new slayer called after a possible mass slayer casualty was interesting… the main villain, the “Countess” was super interesting.. and the new Scooby gang ended up really working well together!
 
Has anyone started "One Girl in All the World" yet? I'm thinking of starting this one when I finish the Nancy Drew Book I'm reading.. Hoped for some discussion.
 
Plasma
Plasma
Not yet. I’m in the middle of something else
So I just finished “Into Every Generation,” and while I still don’t like the portrayals of Willow and Spike, I ended up not hating the book, or the new characters. I’m still kind of grossed out by the First Slayer spirit like impregnating willow… it reads too Savior story to me… but that part aside… Frankie being a new slayer called after a possible mass slayer casualty was interesting… the main villain, the “Countess” was super interesting.. and the new Scooby gang ended up really working well together!
Can we get a run down of where the land lies for the scoobs for those of us who may never read it?
 
That's ridiculous. Warrior and Mage are two different character classes. Although, to be fair, I never understood why Giles was training Buffy in crystals, that never came up again.

Plus, having an innate talent for something, and being able to teach it are two very different things. If she was honest, everything she knows about magic should be a flashback to

Willow: "So, after the Indigo Girls Concert, do you want to do a spell?"
Tara: "Yeah, we'll do a spell. Do you think that Fred girl who hangs out with Angel will have those texts translated by then?"
Willow: "She better, I gave her a bag of.. Sandwiches, to complete them."
Tara: "Good. I'm glad we got her addicted to ... sandwiches. 'I'm Fred, I don't have no hips.' We really should hang out with those lawyers more often. Did you raid Giles heavily indexed library for the spellbook?"
Willow: "Of course, it's not like magic requires original research. You read the text, the spirits humor you because you had a 4.0, and you are done."
Tara: "I don't think that's how that works. But let's do a spell now, and then have some... sandwiches. Then we can watch "The Craft," and I can explain what that one document I had you sign back in "Hush" was."

Bob Saget: Sixpence None The Richer starts to play. Those kids should really read their contracts better.
 
Can we get a run down of where the land lies for the scoobs for those of us who may never read it?
This is all the information about book one, "In Every Generation," without spoiling much!
Buffy is MIA after an explosion at a "Slayer Retreat".
Xander and Dawn are mostly out of novel tracking down leads to the attack on the slayers.
Willow has a daughter, Frankie, who was basically conceived through the Slayer spell in Chosen, though she was pregnant for like a year and a half or something. (This is the one part of the story I severely despise). Willow hasn't done any magic since the spell in Chosen, up until Frankie is called and the Slayer Attack.
I really can't remember much about Giles.. I think he is in England still.
Spike is basically like an uncle to Frankie and when she is called, he becomes her de facto watcher.
"New Sunnydale" is rebuilt inside the crater of "old Sunnydale" and the high school is once again rebuilt on top of the hellmouth. Spike becomes librarian at the school as an homage to Giles, which gives the new Scoobies a meeting place during the day.
Oz has moved back to New Sunnydale to take care of his little cousin Jake, who is also a werewolf. Both have learned to control their inner wolf. Jake and Frankie are best friends, but they do not run in the same circle at New Sunnydale High at the beginning of the novel.
Vi has a little sister Hailey, who becomes Frankies other best friend when Vi never returns from the Slayer retreat and Hailey goes searching for answers.
There's another new character, Sigmund, who is an expert on portals and is a sage demon.
There is also another demon named Grimloch who is mysterious and Frankie obviously falls for him.



I am currently reading the second novel "One Girl in All the World".

Some thoughts, and general run down (so far):
The book is split into 5 parts. Which is cool, because it kind of reads like mini-arcs.
The first part is called "Sunnydale: The Demon Destination".
This part mainly re-introduces us to the characters and how they are coping following the events of the first novel.
Frankie is regularly patrolling New Sunnydale cemetaries. Hailey is shutting down at any mention of her sister, Vi. Jake and Sigmund.. are around. And then one day, Frankie stumbles upon a mutilated student of New Sunnydale High just outside of the high school. There's a new baddie that we aren't given a name to, just "slayer". So it seems like this novel is setting up a slayer v slayer fight at the end. The mysterious slayer has turned New Sunnydale into a beacon for demons to distract the new scoobies, while they hatch their nefarious plan--whatever that may be.
I just read a the finale of the first part, where Xander sends a demon Oracle to Willow's house and the oracle ominously tells Willow "the darkness is coming," which Xander (on the phone) quips about the "from beneath you, it devours" mantra of the First in season 7. The oracle says the slayer power runs through Willow (seemingly because of the chosen spell) which is why Frankie was called. Also there's an insinuation that maybe Willow can take the slayer power away from those called because of her spell? Which I always thought should be done post-season 7 for girls who can't handle it or don't want it.

Now starting part two: "The Darkness is Coming".
 
Part Two: The Darkness Is Coming
Okay, so the second part starts with the finding of a second body at the high school. Only more mutilated than before.
And then Sigmund's mother comes to town--who is an ex of Willow's! And she wants to spar with Frankie. So naturally, they spar in a cemetery! Until Grim returns in the middle of the sparring match, hunting the demon that killed the two students. Which turns out to be the fish demons from season 2. So naturally, the next step is to go check out the high school, again, in order to track down the remaining demons. Well, this guy that has a thing for Jake, Sam, is trapped in the pool getting attacked by the fish demons. And then Vi shows up to help Frankie kill the demons. Because apparently we don't just let the demons run away anymore, we slice and dice them magically. Next, they all return to the Rosenberg house, which in my mind looks like the Summer's house, but I'm sure is rebuilt all modern if it were shot like a series. And Vi is acting super strange and only wants to go eat dinner with her sister, Hailey, refusing to explain how she survived the slayer attack. So they go do that. So after convening in the kitchen, everyone goes their separate ways and Frankie sneaks out to go visit Grim in his tent/lair. They are clearly star-crossed lovers in this novel, and I'm here for it because it's dramatic and fun. When she gets back to her house, Frankie recaps her evening with Hailey, who agrees that something weird is going on with Vi . Which is a good read because the final chapter of this part reveals that Vi is actually the mysterious slayer from the earlier chapter, and she is in kahoots with a group of bad slayers that were portaled in another dimension. Still no word on if Buffy, Faith, Kennedy and Rona are alive. Thoughts on Vi: She's written way different than meek, shy Vi. And it's difficult to wrap my head around, but I'm giving grace because this is set almost 2 decades after the show ended. But of all the people to turn, I didn't see Vi being one. Rona, yes. Vi, no.. Thoroughly enjoying this read so far!

On to Part Three: Who Put a Quarter in the Hellmouth?
 
I really need to hit up Wal-Mart and buy One Girl. I haven’t read In Every Generation yet, but it would be nice to have it before it is hard to find.
 
Okay so I finished this last night, and it became this clear middle-of-the-trilogy novel by the end. The conclusion only served to set up the final book, and that was kind of a let down. There was a nice twist at the end, that I hoped for, but didn't think was going to come. So I enjoyed that. I felt that the beginning part of this book was strong, but the ending just kind of fell flat in order to set up the final book.
I do hope we actually get some face time with Buffy before the final book is up. Though Frankie continuing to refer to her and Xander as "Aunt Buffy" and "Uncle Xander" is always so jarring, even though I know 16 years later, it makes sense.
 
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