Serenity-Speak

nerd4hire

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Can anyone link me to a site where they have some kind of in depth explanation of the slang the Serenity crew uses with words like "frelling", and "shiny"? Also that language Mal and Zoe speak sometimes. I heard it has something to do with Chinese. Is that correct?
 
nerd4hire said:
Can anyone link me to a site where they have some kind of in depth explanation of the slang the Serenity crew uses with words like "frelling", and "shiny"? Also that language Mal and Zoe speak sometimes. I heard it has something to do with Chinese. Is that correct?
The language is definitely Chinese. As far as I remember, Joss says this on the Firefly DVD - either in a commentary or bonus feature. There was also something about taxing the Chinese translators with the various curses as well, I think🙂...Can't help with the made up space slang tho' but I thought most of it was self-explanatory, as with most shows😉...I'll look out and let you know if I find something.
 
Frelling comes from Farscape, I don't think it was in Firefly. In Farscape frelling is the alien equivalent of shucking with a f instead of sh.
 
Spike My Darlin said:
Frelling comes from Farscape, I don't think it was in Firefly. In Farscape frelling is the alien equivalent of shucking with a f instead of sh.
You're right. The Firefly equivalent would probably be "rutting" or something in Chinese...crikey, did N4H commit a blooper? I knew what he meant tho'🙂
 
:confused3 Oopsies on the frelling "frelling" thing. You see now why I need to do research on this? :spinface: 😀

Oh and thanks Xander. Mr. P found me a couple as well so I'm pretty much set. Bet you guys are wondering if I know how to Google, aren't cha?
 
I have worked in just about every Farscape curse word into normal conversation and NOBODY has ever said anything or given me a funny look, but the minute I use a phrase from Buffy and they look at me like I am some kind of mutated freak.
 
Not to worry SMD. Believe it or not, there's more of us mutated freaks out there. LOL

Just wait until someone asks you how you're doing and you say "Five by Five", or "Bored now", and their eyes light up like they found the mother ship.

Hey it could happen. 😀

Back to Firefly though. I'm liking the one, "Shiny". I've incorporated that one already in conversations, and gotten away with it.
 
I was wondering if the Angel episode title Shiny Happy People was a referance to 'shiny' in Firefly.

I just love the term 'shiny'. I wish I could get away with using it in regular convosations.
 
Spike My Darlin said:
What does shiny mean?

I'm not exactly qualified to answer that yet, but I'll try any way. 🙂

I think of it as Kaylee's word, and to understand it you probably have to "get" Kaylee. Here's a quote:

Kaylee: No, it's shiny! I like to meet new people. They've all got stories...

Jayne: Captain, can you stop her from bein' cheerful, please?
Mal: I don't believe there is a power in the 'verse that can stop Kaylee from being cheerful. Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.

Speaking of shiny and Serenity-speak, check this out.

http://fireflyfunsite.home.att.net/songs/gorram.html
 
Kaylee was the best after Inara. I don't quite fully get shiny but I get the gist.

I have actually used verse in normal conversation before but that was because I learned it from something else.

EDIT: Now that I went to that link full of Firefly-isms I get shiny fully.
 
See I understood shiny, maybe because I say stuff like that. Might describe my day as sparkly or something as well. Think "Shiny Happy People" was a refference to a song or something.
 
Xander said:
See I understood shiny, maybe because I say stuff like that. Might describe my day as sparkly or something as well. Think "Shiny Happy People" was a reference to a song or something.
'Twas indeed - by REM in fact, from their Out of Time album.

Shiny Happy People
Shiny happy people laughing
Meet me in the crowd
People people
Throw your love around
Love me love me
Take it into town
Happy happy
Put it in the ground
Where the flowers grow
Gold and silver shine

Shiny happy people holding hands
Shiny happy people laughing

Everyone around love them, love them
Put it in your hands
Take it take it
There?s no time to cry
Happy happy
Put it in your heart
Where tomorrow shines
Gold and silver shine

Shiny happy people holding hands
Shiny happy people laughing
 
I don't know maybe it's just me that finds this kind of stuff fascinating, but here's another great article on it -

The Future May Belong To Those Who Speak Mandarin
Author: Scott Nance
Date: 02-24-2005

One of the things folks have long loved to complain about when watching a science-fiction series on television is, "How come all the aliens speak English?"

The right answer, of course, probably is, "Because you're watching an American TV show, buddy."

But can you imagine a future in which folks of all persuasions speak not entirely in English -- but some other Earth language instead?

In his short-lived, space-western series, "Firefly," Joss Whedon already has. Throughout the dozen or so episodes, Whedon and his writers have his characters (none of whom are Asian) occasionally break into Chinese.

Think it's odd for Caucasian and black characters set 500 years from now to be uttering Mandarin phrases out of the blue?

Not really, when you think about how events could likely go over the next five centuries. In fact, Whedon is prescient for weaving the rise of China, its language, and its culture into his series given that today, we only see the beginnings of how the giant nation may grow in years to come.

To be sure, English will continue to be a dominant lingua franca around the globe, reflecting the worldwide preeminence of American commerce and culture worldwide.

However, English could increasingly be challenged in that dominance by Chinese, as China becomes a world superpower on its own. And "Firefly" captures perfectly that rivalry for supremacy that may exist between the two centuries from now.

China's increasing power on Earth is not based merely in its gigantic population, which already numbers more than 1.3 billion people.

Rather, it comes from China's ongoing efforts to, one, expand its economy and, second, modernize its military.

You may have noticed that everything from the shirt on your back, to the computer screen you are reading this on, was likely made in China.

In one of his articles, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius likened China's economy to the boom years of the late 1990s in the United States.

"Drive down one of [Beijing's] broad boulevards and you'll find billboards advertising 'Season's Park,' the latest fancy apartment complex that bills itself as 'Home of the Tycoons,'" Ignatius wrote. "The entrance is decorated with images of the Statue of Liberty and the Arc de Triomphe, and there's a telephone 'hot line' so newly wealthy Chinese can rush to buy a piece of the dream.

"The race to join the tycoons is suggested by some statistics: Investment in the Chinese steel industry grew 96.6 percent last year; in aluminum, 92.9 percent; in cement, 121.9 percent," he added.

So while the so-called communist Chinese look to out-compete the United States in the arena of capitalism, they are also working to modernize what once had been a hopelessly outdated People's Liberation Army.

I have to add a personal note here. I am, in my day job, a journalist who writes about world security and the defense industry for a living. It's in this capacity that I come into contact on a regular basis with the latest news of how China's military is ever-approaching a point of being able to effectively vie with that of the United States.

In fact, just before starting this column, I wrote a piece about Chinese efforts to acquire new weapons from European nations -- efforts which could, among other things, threaten U.S. power in the Pacific.

As one wag here in Washington said recently, "This is not your father's PLA."

I say all of this to illustrate how China is very likely in coming years going to become a superpower similar to the United States today in its day-to-day worldwide power and influence.

Some 500 years from now, Chinese and English may co-exist as the two prevailing languages on planet Earth.

So, you see, in that way it's not all that surprising that in the future, folks of any ethnicity may be running around spouting Chinese, in the same way that today people of all colors and backgrounds around the world may communicate in English.

Now, a "Firefly" fan has created a "pinyinary" of all of the Chinese words and phrases that have appeared on the series.

A pinyin is a system for transliterating Chinese characters into the English/Roman alphabet, and the "Firefly" pinyinary also translates the meanings of the Chinese words, which in "Firefly" are often vulgarities or epithets.

For instance, in the episode "Serenity," when he learns of the approach of an Alliance cruiser, Mal utters, "Ta ma duh!" which, according to the pinyinary, translates as "**** me blind!"

Or, in the same episode, when the cruiser scans the ship Serenity, Wash exclaims, "Ai ya, hwai leh!," or "Shit on my head!"

The "Firefly" pinyinary is a must for any serious fan of the series like myself, to help them gain an even greater understanding of how excellent this series was, and just what a shame it was that Fox killed it young.

The pinyinary is available online HERE

http://www.syfyportal.com/features.php?id=109
 
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