Should Buffy have died in "Chosen"?

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I'm rewatching "Chosen" right now and just saw the part where snuffy gets impaled by the Ubervamp with the sword. I know Buffy heals quickly but I found it pretty unbelievable that she could get back up and keep fighting. Of course I'm glad that she did, but do you think she should have died in the final battle??
 
I don't think so. I was happy she lived, and I thought the story completed itself well.

We'd already done a death storyline for Buffy in S5. She went out in the most heroic, epic way ever in "The Gift". Having her die, for a third time, would have been pretty tough to top that. Honestly, I think it would have felt a little redundant. Plus, if Buffy and Spike had died within moments of each other, it would have ended the series on a pretty sour note.

Plus, the set up in that episode gave a lot of indications that she still had a lot to live for, and things to come. She has the cookie-dough talk with Angel where they talk about being together "one day". She resolves her relationship with Spike perfectly, and they're able to say goodbye.

I thought the ending to "Chosen" was really well done.
 
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Maybe she did die, I mean, in season 8 she was a drawn figure. Not a real one. And the new film that was talked about, was 'our Buffy' in it? So yeah, that all points to 'our Buffy' being dead.
 
It could have made a great finale, with Buffy dead and Spike remaining behind to die with the woman he loved, and incinerating all of the ubervamps in the process. The final scene could have been Faith being asked "What happened? What caused this?" and she, looking back at the crater that only moments before had been Sunnydale would have smiled sadly and said, "Buffy and Spike." (Fade to black) and Dawn's voice, saying, as the final credits roll, "They're together now, and Angel can't do a damn thing to foul it up again." I get teary eyed just imagining it.

But no, beautiful as that might have been, it's better the way that Joss wrote it. Buffy had already sacrificed her life to save the world once in Season 5. Doing it again would have been almost anticlimactic.

Besides which, the Bangels would still be crying about it even now.
 
I liked that Buffy survived in Chosen. I would have been so mad if she had died and the potentials didn't. How unfair. I also quite like that Buffy got back up and kept fighting after she got stabbed; it's a nice sentiment to her progression from the previous season; to keep fighting and never give up - even if the odds are stacked against you. I think Buffy grew up a lot in season 7 and I would have hated it if she had died- it wasn't the right message for the season imo.
 
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Buffy getting back up was a far cry from her depression in S6 causing her to wait seconds before getting back up after a hit from a demon, almost like she was contemplating staying down because she was emotionally tired
I like that she survived. I know a lot of people hate the comics and the direction the Buffyverse took after "Chosen" but I was glad that Buffy lived and the story continued.
 
There has been some objection to Buffy recovering from her wound and getting back into the fight, but the following comes from a Wikipedia description of the recently deceased Daniel Inouye, a Medal of Honor recipient and 50-year veteran of the US Senate:

"On April 21, 1945, Inouye was grievously wounded while leading an assault on a heavily-defended ridge near San Terenzo in Tuscany, Italy called Colle Musatello. The ridge served as a strongpoint along the strip of German fortifications known as the Gothic Line, which represented the last and most dogged line of German defensive works in Italy. As he led his platoon in a flanking maneuver, three German machine guns opened fire from covered positions just 40 yards away, pinning his men to the ground. Inouye stood up to attack and was shot in the stomach; ignoring his wound, he proceeded to attack and destroy the first machine gun nest with hand grenades and fire from his Thompson submachine gun. After being informed of the severity of his wound by his platoon sergeant, he refused treatment and rallied his men for an attack on the second machine gun position, which he also successfully destroyed before collapsing from blood loss.

As his squad distracted the third machine gunner, Inouye crawled toward the final bunker, eventually drawing within 10 yards. As he raised himself up and cocked his arm to throw his last grenade into the fighting position, a German inside fired a rifle grenade that struck him on the right elbow, severing most of his arm and leaving his own primed grenade reflexively "clenched in a fist that suddenly didn't belong to me anymore".[11] Inouye's horrified soldiers moved to his aid, but he shouted for them to keep back out of fear his severed fist would involuntarily relax and drop the grenade. As the German inside the bunker reloaded his rifle, Inouye pried the live grenade from his useless right hand and transferred it to his left. As the German aimed his rifle to finish him off, Inouye tossed the grenade off-hand into the bunker and destroyed it. He stumbled to his feet and continued forward, silencing the last German resistance with a one-handed burst from his Thompson before being wounded in the leg and tumbling unconscious to the bottom of the ridge. When he awoke to see the concerned men of his platoon hovering over him, his only comment before being carried away was to gruffly order them to return to their positions, since, as he pointed out, "nobody called off the war!"[12]

The remainder of Inouye's mutilated right arm was later amputated at a field hospital without proper anesthesia, as he had been given too much morphine at an aid station and it was feared any more would lower his blood pressure enough to kill him."


The character of Buffy is blessed with the rapid recovery of a slayer and her injury was not necessarily that severe. It would have been the end of any future existence of Buffy such as the comics to have her die again and it would have looked like a cheap theatrical device. Besides, the socialization arc of Buffy could be complete - from lone hunter to hunter with assist from subordinates (the Scoobies) to commander of the Potential brigade to one fighter among equals who could finally look forward to some semblance of a normal (and long) life, participating in the slaying only when she wanted. It was the right ending for the show.
 
Nah, it wouldn't have packed the same emotional punch as The Gift or Prophecy Girl. I loved the moment when Buffy was standing in front of the bus, looking forward, with a smile on her face. Really happy.
 
Yes. "Chosen" is the final episode, I'd prefer it to end Buffy's story. For a slayer, death in a big battle is pretty much a happy ending, for Buffy death is a return to a good, peaceful place.

I say she deserved to die.
 
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I changed my mind. I agree.
I think if the show had ended on The Gift that would have been perfect. But to do it again would have just cheapened the whole effect the gift had. And while I'm sure as long as buffy is the slayer she has a higher mortality rate and could very well end up dead I wouldnt have liked to see Chosen end on that note. Regardless of how awful the comics are lol
 
I don't think seeing Buffy die "again" would have cheapened it for me... If it was written the right way, it could have been really beautiful and emotional.
 
I just feel, for me at least, since he wrote the Gift as a finale to do it again wouldnt have meant as much to me. I'm not opposed to Buffy dying in the finale I just dont feel given the way season 7 played out and how Chosen went down and given The Gift I would have liked it. I'm not really making sense lol.
 
I think it would have been a nice closure to the tv series to be honest. I loved that ep but it would have been closure as I said and the comics could still go on as they could have resurrected her again as always lol.
 
Yes Buffy should have died and when the scoobies do the ressurection spell, Anya appears instead. It the becomes Anya the Bunnie Slayer. That would be the dream finale for me but one can only dream.
 
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Hmm, I think it's better that she lived. She's died twice already, so having her die for a third time would have been a bit too much
 
If Buffy died in season 7, I think it would of been repetitive, as she would have died three times then and that almost sounds a little stupid... For me, because I am a fan of the comics would be rubbish because there would probably be no comics if she did die. I also think that because she stayed alive it leaves the whole storyline open.
 
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