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In "welcome to the Hellmouth" when Angel says to Buffy "Let's just say I'm a friend." then Buffy says "Well maybe I don't need a friend", and he responds with "I didn't say I was yours." I thought that was an awesome line of his. Then the next episode when Buffy asks "Do you know what its like to have a friend" and Angel is stumped because he doesn't. I find this amusing.
 
Wild At Heart
Wild At Heart
love these scenes
I agree; it's kinda an ironic exchange between them, for sure... And definitely sad that Angel doesn't know what it's like to actually have a friend. 🙁
 
this conversion between us is celebrate!!!! i like this episode i like the arrival of angel!
he is mysterious, beautiful and dark at the first meet.
i love the first season! That remeber me a lot of good things!!!!
 
RogueDemonHunter said:
In "welcome to the Hellmouth" when Angel says to Buffy "Let's just say I'm a friend." then Buffy says "Well maybe I don't need a friend", and he responds with "I didn't say I was yours." I thought that was an awesome line of his.
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It was even more awesome 20 years earlier when Burt Lancaster said it to Audrey Hepburn in "The Unforgiven." (NOT the Clint Eastwood version) Of course, he was a cowboy, not a vampire, and she was an Indian, not a Slayer.
 
I LOVED that exchange. Angel was so cool in the first season in the series because he was so mysterious, and those lines went a long ways to furthering that I thought. For pretty much half the first season (until the "Angel" episode), we know virtually nothing about Angel, not even that he's a vampire. I remember the first time I watched Buffy, Angel was a big hook for me. I wanted to know more about him, and when Buffy gives him that "you do know what it's like to have friends" line, and he just doesn't respond, that was intriguing to me. It made him sadder, and it added something to him and Buffy.

Great exchange.
 
I thought the lines were good the first time I watched it... but when I rewatch, they don't make sense. I mean, the line about Angel not knowing what it's like to have a friend makes sense, but the exchange before that? Angel is not ambiguously evil (pure evil when he's Angelus), and he's always been on Buffy's side. So that line wasn't really ominous since it didn't really come to anything.
 
drizzlydaze said:
I thought the lines were good the first time I watched it... but when I rewatch, they don't make sense. I mean, the line about Angel not knowing what it's like to have a friend makes sense, but the exchange before that? Angel is not ambiguously evil (pure evil when he's Angelus), and he's always been on Buffy's side. So that line wasn't really ominous since it didn't really come to anything.
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No, Angel isn't ambiguously evil in that original exchange. He isn't any sort of evil. In fact, at that point, it hadn't even been decided exactly what he would be, or even that he would turn out to be a vampire. He was just some dark, handsome, mysterious figure straight out of any Harlequin romance novel.
 
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He was conceived as a Whistler-type character - the one to give clues to push the story forward when writers run out of other options. But Joss quickly noticed the chemistry and wrote a romantic arc for them.

There is a story, most likely an apocryphal, that, when BtVS was renewed for the second season, one of TheWB bosses said to Joss: "Make it more feelgood. Write, for example, a story about a cursed hero and how a girl's love helps him to get rid of his curse". -- "Good idea", Joss said and wrote "Surprise/Innocence".
 
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LOL! Fake or not, that story is extremely entertaining.
white avenger
white avenger
Great story, a pure Joss twist. The girl helps the hero get rid of his curse, and reverts to the monster that he had been. "Beauty And The Beast" in reverse.
That exchange gives me goosebumps... Especially when it was new and you really didn't know what angel's deal was
 
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