But I don't HATE Spangel. That is the message I have been trying to convey over the last several post on this thread. I just disagree. That is it. I am trying to figure out the reason why you feel I am being so childish. I never said that it isn't possible. I never said that I AM a Spangel hater. I am just saying that if the two vamps ever had sex or anything like that( rape, bloodbath orgies, ect.) that it would have happened between Spike and Angelus( not Angel). Angel does not strike me as having any overt or underlying conotations to a propensity to that paticular affinity. Yes, there are innuendos, but that is part of what makes life fun. I don't see the innuendo as being the logical equivelant to mean that they think of each other in that way anymore. Now, the adult reaction to my statements is to say dually noted and move on with your day. I have mostly been addressing the tendancy to take offence to my counter-debate, and to "rip me a new one" based off of what it is felt I am saying, not what I am saying.
I have always enjoyed the many vampire mythos, and am in firm agreement to the notion that the older a vampire gets, the more curious they get. After living for hundreds of years under rules that do not govern the lives of humans, I am positive that experimentation, or even complete enjoyment( we are talking about a species of undead that feasts on the blood and torture of mortals) of roads less traveled is the next logical step. I love Anne Rice and her books tend to be geared to many less conventional lusts. The part that I am addressing is that many personality traits of Lestat and Louis seem to be transplanted to Angel and Spike. I am willing to bet that that is the way that Joss was gearing their relationship was when the demons governed their lusts and interests. Angelus was intrigued with the notion of a male to share in slaughter with. They probably had a romp after every kill for a while, but Angel and Spike are different beings than in that time( otherwise the show wouldn't be about a vampire WITH a soul, now wouldn't it). It doesn't seem likely that they with travel down that road anymore. But I am also not the writers of the show, only they know what is truly in store for the vamps after the final show airs, only they hold the key to Angel's chastity belt, and only they can decide that Angel and Spike are perfect for one anouther.
You see possibility. Yes, we are dealing with a show that kills characters for story purpose, says that the things that go bump in the night are real, that (sweet little)Willow is the witch above all others, and that for better or worse this all happens for the good fight. Well I say ANYTHING is more than possible, it is probable. It is a show that is a big metaphor of the pains and pleasures of the real world. I reflects every aspect of growing up, staying that way(to bad warren missed that lesson), making choices, and LIVING with them(good or bad). It encompasses all parts of life as it is, and includes all tose that would be fun if they were.
Willow and Tara were my favorite couple( for more reasons than I am just a male). Tara was a voice of reason. She was the motherly hand of the gang after Joyce's death. Tara was compassion incarnate. She was Willows anchor, and her life and that, THAT, is what love is supposed to be. It is selfless, it is strong, and it is excruciating when it is gone. It doesn't matter if the person who brings you that is the same sex as you are, if that is what you are looking for. I may look for those things in someone of the opposite sex, but I am never going to claim that anyone's love is not as strong as that because they happen to put from the rough.
So here's where you get to make a choice. Slanders, accusations, and whatevers can continue to be thrown. I have NO desire to be involved with interactions like that. I come here because, until recently, I like to discuss all the many theories, possibilities, personal favorites of all sorts of topics, those thing Whedon-verse, as well as those things not; all without worrying that I am going to be pursecuted as though I am an unwelcome ebola monkey. I am not looking to spoil anyone fun, or fantasy. These are key ingredients to the happiness and good well being of us all. So is diversity. Diversity of person, diversity of likes and dislike, diversity of culture, and diversity of thought. I feel it is wrong to need to segregate those things that are different. Challanges to ideas and adversity is supposed to bring out the best in us all, not the worst. These are after all only opinions, and maybe Ana8 and I do get along, but I am my own person, and just because she is vocal in her protests, doesn't mean I am protesting your ideas. I welcome them, because to cut them off, as if they were a gangrenous stump, would be the truly wrong course of action. I don't protest, I embrace. I just don't see things your way, probably never will. That's just me. Just please stop telling me my opinion and getting upset because you are percieving me to be antagonistic.
On that note, EVERYONE......................Dually noted.
(crap that was long winded)