Spike: After the Fall

[Allycat]

Is the Spike: After the Fall canon? Has Joss co-plotted his 4 spin-off issues? Just something I thought of.. hadn't seen it confirmed anywhere.

I've been searching the net for some kind of confirmation on its status as canon. The only thing I could find was this:

The series is information and stories that were going to be inferred/referenced/glimpsed at in ANGEL:AFTER THE FALL. Spike's situation in that was one Joss and I discussed, now I'm fleshing it out and adding new wrinkles to it.

I was adamant that we get Joss' blessing on telling Spike's story or else I wasn't going to do it. He was for it, I attempted a script, at any point ready to stop if it felt like filler or lazy or unnecessary. I wasn't for doing a spin-off, but a few pages in it was apparent this was going to work beyond any Spike story we've told.

There's a lot of heart, a lot of action, some humor, some horrible happenings. It's one of the only times I've been surprised while writing, I fell in love with the book pretty quickly. Bearing in mind I'm only two issues in and it could all go to pot, I think it's my best Spike writing so far.

Sorry I rambled, I'm really excited about it. Can you tell?

Source: Whedonesque : Comments on 15744 : (SPOILER) Spike:After the Fall-coming in July from IDW!

I guess you could take that to mean it's canon, but I'm still not sure. Joss (or at least his office) has to approve all plot-outlines for tie-in media, like the obviously non-canon novels and video games. The same thing could be going on here.

In the meantime, enjoy some covers. First two are by Franco, the last one is by the Sharp brothers. (The colours aren't finished yet though.)

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[Clem Rocks]

Hey, it's Lorne supposed to be on the other side of the city? Or at least far enough away that no one knew he was there.

Angel knew he was there

Is the Spike: After the Fall canon? Has Joss co-plotted his 4 spin-off issues? Just something I thought of.. hadn't seen it confirmed anywhere.

Yes, it's canon

Can I ask something?will Spike:ATF be released in the same time with the next Angel:ATF issues?

No, S:AtF doesn't come out until July

 

[Black Eye Guy]

Yeah until I get a proper "this is canon" from Joss, Im not taking this cuz he always had to sign off on the comics and books and that didn't make them canon.

 

[Clem Rocks]

Yeah until I get a proper "this is canon" from Joss, Im not taking this cuz he always had to sign off on the comics and books and that didn't make them canon.

Would it be listed on Joss's website as canon if he doesn't want it to be canon? =|

 

[Lou]

A spin-off is different from a 4 comic streak, right? I think Spike could use one. Especially with how he "blends" with both shows so well AND can do things on his own. He could be hopping all over tarnation! And I DID love Asylum. Shadow Puppets was not as great, but still good.
If nothing else, I think Lynch "gets" the characters he's writing about.

 

[white avenger]

It would be nice to think that this is an experiment on Joss' part to see how Spike, usually somebody's sidekick up til now, could stand on his own, in preperation for a live action movie, but of course that's just the rambling of an old Spike fan.

 

[Allycat]

Canon!​

Sorry about that, I'm just really excited right now. I asked on Chris Ryall (IDW's Editor-in-Chief) if he could confirm S:AtF's canonical status. Here's his reply:

Well, it spins out of the canonical Angel: After the Fall and is Joss-approved, so it's as canon as can be, yeah.

This is enough confirmation for me, unless someone can disprove it.

 

[GATEGOD]

Canon!​

Sorry about that, I'm just really excited right now. I asked on Chris Ryall (IDW's Editor-in-Chief) if he could confirm S:AtF's canonical status. Here's his reply:



This is enough confirmation for me, unless someone can disprove it.

That does sound pretty good.

 

[Clem Rocks]

We knew that yesterday, it was said on Whedonesque that it was canon, not long after it was revealed

 

[CharmedSlayer85]

I don't know if I like the idea of giving Spike his own mini-series. I mean Spike is now apart of Team Angel and that's where he needs to stay. That's like giving Willow her own mini-series because she's popular enough to have her own fan following, however that wouldn't work cause she's part of the Scobby Gang.

 

[Allycat]

I don't know if I like the idea of giving Spike his own mini-series. I mean Spike is now apart of Team Angel and that's where he needs to stay. That's like giving Willow her own mini-series because she's popular enough to have her own fan following, however that wouldn't work cause she's part of the Scobby Gang.

Actually, I think that would work marvellously. Willow isn't as much a member of the Scooby Gang in Season 8 as she has been in previous seasons. What's more important, is that Willow has reached such a high power-level that she's is lots and lots stronger than Buffy. Unless the writers think of ways for Willow to be incapacitated during the big fights, it will be her and not Buffy, who has the best chance of beating the bad guy. I fear that she might outshine Buffy. And having her preoccupied or incapacitated all the time, might grow old.