Spuffy #2 - General Discussion

[thevikingsgirl]

Where do the dailies come from?

 

[dan k]

A lot of great Spuffy scenes. I may be a fan of Bangel but that doesn't make me not be a fan of Spuffy. I love the arguments they had which is best typified in the episode where Spike tells her how he killed 2 slayers.

Also like Crush where Buffy is so shocked by Spike's declaration and the touching moments they have in season 7 i really enjoy watching. Whilst season 6 was mostly about sex that didn't really bother me considering how gorgeous SMG is.

 

[xaphania]

Where do the dailies come from?

Not entirely sure, but somehow they end up online. There were a lot on youtube up until a few months ago when they were all taken down.

I've got the following dailies if anyone wants me to try and upload them:

-Dead Things balcony scene
-Dead Things rug scene
-Smashed house scene
-Dead Things dream sequence
-Normal Again (talking to Willow)
-Two lots of Wrecked Dailies (though not entirely sure I'd be allowed to post the second set up, you get the shot from behind where Spike walks towards Buffy, and JM's not wearing very much at all. 😉 )

 

[xaphania]

Other people need to post, I'm always double posting in here. 😛

Joan if you send me your email addy I'll see about sending you the dailies (and I'll send them to vikingsgirl, too).

Hey! You know what's fun? Reasons why Buffy/Angel would never work. I thought about putting this link in the meta thread, but it's not really serious meta. More a funny, lighthearted (but definitely sound) list of reasons why Buffy and Angel wouldn't work and why Spuffy would and does.


Basically what it boils down to is that they're too much alike in all the wrong ways and not alike enough in all of the right ones.

 

[EveryNiteISaveU]

I need help! Look at this video, the scene that starts about 1:24, not under the rug at Spike's but the other one. WHICH episode is that in?? I need it for a video I'm making and I can't find it for some stupid reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3B55TcMFa0

Oh wait - right before the carpet scene - i think that's actually season 7 - either from "bring on the night" or "showtime"

 

[Joan the Vampire Slayer]

thevikingsgirl: that scene is from 'Gone' - I'm pretty sure of it.

 

[thevikingsgirl]

The scene was from Dead Things when buffy was dreaming/whatever was happening to her thanks to the Trio. 🙂

 

[Wishing Oceans]

Guys... I'm backk! 🙂

So anyway, let's get this Spuffy Show on the Spuffy Road! Come on guys, Spuffy me up! 😀

 

[thevikingsgirl]

Welcome back! we missed you.

 

[Wishing Oceans]

I miss you guys, too. 🙂

So anyway guys, um... What's your favorite Spuffy Season? 😀

 

[Kelsey]

Welcome back, WO!

Spuffies, I have a question for you. I've been very busy lately and haven't had time to catch up with all things Buffy, which means I haven't kept up with the comics. So tell me, and tell me quickly... did we lose? I'm seeing a very defeatest attitude circling around the boards and it's got me worried. Did the comics do something to make it completely clear that Angel and Buffy are THE couple? I can't say I'm shocked, if so, but very disappointed.

 

[xaphania]

I don't follow the comics but I don't think anything has changed since the big Twilight reveal.

I couldn't care less, anyway.

I just wish there was a way to be in the fandom without having to hear about the comics all over the place, but alas, this does not seem possible. So I'll just try my best to ignore them, lol.

ETA: Okay... I'm writing a fic and need some advice on what Spike and Buffy would do.

At this point in the plot: A few days after Chosen and Buffy finds herself drawn to the English coast. Senses weirdness, thinks it's related to Spike - then Spike shows up all ghostly (but not go-throughable). He's said that he doesn't know how he came back or why he's a ghost, but he's lying. And a few days after he gets back (a few days in which they've been happy together), Buffy starts to realise that he's lying. So they have a big argument - and Spike stops the fight with a kiss. That's where my last chapter left off, but now I'm stuck.

What do you think Buffy would do... give in to the kiss and um, where it leads (she's just glad he's back, who cares about the rest?) OR she insists on finishing the argument and finding out what he's been hiding. He will reveal everything eventually, but I'm not sure how to have Buffy react to him distracting her with a kiss.

I know I've only given the bare bones on what's gone on at this point in the story, but what does your gut instinct say for this situation? Thanks!

 

[thevikingsgirl]

Buffy has a long history of letting herself get carried away with Spike even when she knows better. So I vote for finishing the argument later.

 

[Wishing Oceans]

I don't follow the comics but I don't think anything has changed since the big Twilight reveal.

I couldn't care less, anyway.

I just wish there was a way to be in the fandom without having to hear about the comics all over the place, but alas, this does not seem possible. So I'll just try my best to ignore them, lol.

ETA: Okay... I'm writing a fic and need some advice on what Spike and Buffy would do.

At this point in the plot: A few days after Chosen and Buffy finds herself drawn to the English coast. Senses weirdness, thinks it's related to Spike - then Spike shows up all ghostly (but not go-throughable). He's said that he doesn't know how he came back or why he's a ghost, but he's lying. And a few days after he gets back (a few days in which they've been happy together), Buffy starts to realise that he's lying. So they have a big argument - and Spike stops the fight with a kiss. That's where my last chapter left off, but now I'm stuck.

What do you think Buffy would do... give in to the kiss and um, where it leads (she's just glad he's back, who cares about the rest?) OR she insists on finishing the argument and finding out what he's been hiding. He will reveal everything eventually, but I'm not sure how to have Buffy react to him distracting her with a kiss.

I know I've only given the bare bones on what's gone on at this point in the story, but what does your gut instinct say for this situation? Thanks!

I imagine it playing out just like the Darla/Angel scene in Dear Boy. 🙂 They start kissing for a couple of minutes, Buffy pushes Spike away and says "That's enough", they go back to talking. 🙂

 

[xaphania]

Ack, two different answers. See, I'm tempted to go with the first option because I've already done two "fade-to-black" scenes and I feel bad kind of 'teasing' the readers, but I can't make up my mind as to whether it'd be completely true to Buffy's character.

At the moment I am leaning more towards the first one, if only for the fact that it'll make my chapter and the story longer. 😀

Thanks for your thoughts!

 

[Tranquillity]

Welcome back, WO!

Spuffies, I have a question for you. I've been very busy lately and haven't had time to catch up with all things Buffy, which means I haven't kept up with the comics. So tell me, and tell me quickly... did we lose? I'm seeing a very defeatest attitude circling around the boards and it's got me worried. Did the comics do something to make it completely clear that Angel and Buffy are THE couple? I can't say I'm shocked, if so, but very disappointed.

Well, it's not looking good, that's for sure. Because of course, last issue revealed that

Spoiler

Angel is Twilight. When Buffy and Twilight finally meet and he pulls off his mask she is of course thrown but still very very angry. She's fully prepared to kill him. But then, Angel says he had to do all that bad stuff as Twilight in order to stop greater bloodshed and that it was all for the good of Buffy anyway - to push her into becoming what she was meant to become. And then he pulls on a puppy dog expression and asks her if she wants to be happy, "don't they deserve to be happy?" and they begin to glow and kiss. Yep Buffy and Angel glow when they are near one another. So it seems that Bella and Ed, oops, i mean Buffy and Angel are the big noise in town afterall. Who knew?? The fan community is, in general, quite puzzeled by this turn that the story has taken. I've only seen a few die-hard Banglers who are really excited about glowy-kissage and the what they see as the prospect of Happily-ever-After. They can rationalise Twilight as a good guy becuse he's Angel, so therefore he must be good. Next issue promises "Them f*@#$%g!" so who knows what that will bring... although Spike is apparently also making an appearance (in flashback?). The Q&As with Jeanty and Allie at Slay Alive forum are worth reading - they seem to imply that Bangel is THE thing and that they (the creative team) assume that the entire fan community has been waiting for this development for such a loooong time. How wrong they are. I'm still hoping that Spike will show up for real and throw a spanner in the works; afterall, he is the only big gun of the Buffyverse yet to show up and you know that old saying about saving the best for last...

 

[thevikingsgirl]

Well, it's not looking good, that's for sure. Because of course, last issue revealed that

Spoiler

Angel is Twilight. When Buffy and Twilight finally meet and he pulls off his mask she is of course thrown but still very very angry. She's fully prepared to kill him. But then, Angel says he had to do all that bad stuff as Twilight in order to stop greater bloodshed and that it was all for the good of Buffy anyway - to push her into becoming what she was meant to become. And then he pulls on a puppy dog expression and asks her if she wants to be happy, "don't they deserve to be happy?" and they begin to glow and kiss. Yep Buffy and Angel glow when they are near one another. So it seems that Bella and Ed, oops, i mean Buffy and Angel are the big noise in town afterall. Who knew?? The fan community is, in general, quite puzzeled by this turn that the story has taken. I've only seen a few die-hard Banglers who are really excited about glowy-kissage and the what they see as the prospect of Happily-ever-After. They can rationalise Twilight as a good guy becuse he's Angel, so therefore he must be good. Next issue promises "Them f*@#$%g!" so who knows what that will bring... although Spike is apparently also making an appearance (in flashback?). The Q&As with Jeanty and Allie at Slay Alive forum are worth reading - they seem to imply that Bangel is THE thing and that they (the creative team) assume that the entire fan community has been waiting for this development for such a loooong time. How wrong they are. I'm still hoping that Spike will show up for real and throw a spanner in the works; afterall, he is the only big gun of the Buffyverse yet to show up and you know that old saying about saving the best for last...

Gag!!!

Spoiler

The flashback will be, while she's getting busy with Angel, she'll be thinking about Spike and remembering how much better in bed (or on the floor, or in the crypt) he is than Angel, how yeah, it was nice with Angel because he was her first and she didn't know any better. They'll finish up and have awkward silence, she'll stake him for being Twilight (or whatever - remember, I'm not actually reading the comics), then go find Spike and have some REAL sex.

 

[Wishing Oceans]

Gag!!!

Spoiler

The flashback will be, while she's getting busy with Angel, she'll be thinking about Spike and remembering how much better in bed (or on the floor, or in the crypt) he is than Angel, how yeah, it was nice with Angel because he was her first and she didn't know any better. They'll finish up and have awkward silence, she'll stake him for being Twilight (or whatever - remember, I'm not actually reading the comics), then go find Spike and have some REAL sex.

Wow, I think that you guys are making Buffy WAY more promiscuous than she actually is. (sw)

Plus, Buffy so doesn't deserve Spike at this point, imo, Buffy should end up with Angel. Serve her right. :dramaqueen:

 

[Joan the Vampire Slayer]

Kelsey, I agree with what Tranquility said. It's not looking good for us. But I guess it just depends on why you like Spuffy and how you view the ship. If your preference for the ship is based on a hope that the two will end up together in the end, then I'm sad to say, it looks like all of us are going to be sorely disappointed.

Allie said that the best be can hope for is for Spuffy to be treated "with respect". That's a far cry from what we'd envisioned a Spuffy reunion as.

It has been revealed that Buffy is fated to be with Angel. It's clear she still loves him. I can't deny it, as much as it pains me to say so.

Can we still think that Buffy was way better, hotter, and more interesting with Spike? Hell yeah we can!

 

[Kelsey]

Kelsey, I agree with what Tranquility said. It's not looking good sure, but I guess it depends on why you like Spuffy. If your preference for the ship is based on a hope that they're end up together someday, I'm sad to say, looks like you're going to be disappointed.

It has been revealed that Buffy is fated to be with Angel. It's clear she still loves him. I can't deny it, as much as it pains me to say so.

Can we still think she was way better, hotter, and more interesting with Spike? Hell yeah we can!

Haha, and believe me, I do! I never cared much for the comics, anyway. SPUFFY FTW!