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Mr. Pole said:
I didnt say it. Whedon said it:
"The origin comic can pretty much be accepted as canonical. They did a cool job of combining my movie script with the series, that was nice, and using the series Merrick and not a certain OTHER thespian who shall remain hated."

Whedon called Origin canon, I merely repeated what he said for other people saying it was not canon.
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Thanks . And none of the others comics than ? Plus he must really dislike Donald Sutherland.
 
ChaseRules said:
Thanks . And none of the others comics than ? Plus he must really dislike Donald Sutherland.
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Most of the quotes about God and being a servant of the Lord or whoever it is phrased was added by Sutherland. They allegedly went back and forth over the religious themes as Sutherland supposedly found it insulting that they would use crosses and holy water but never mention god or religion.
 
Mr. Pole said:
Most of the quotes about God and being a servant of the Lord or whoever it is phrased was added by Sutherland. They allegedly went back and forth over the religious themes as Sutherland supposedly found it insulting that they would use crosses and holy water but never mention god or religion.
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He does have a valid point there. If Whedon didn't want any mention of God or religion in his story, that's fine, he's free to ignore it. It just doesn't make sense to have Holy items have the power to repel or destroy vampires without acknowledging the Higher Power responsible for making them so. They got around something like this in the "Highlander" franchise by simply saying that holy ground, regardless of which deity it was dedicated to, was universally honored. Joss could have done something like that, or used the explanation that was used in "Fright Night," that it was actually the power of user's belief, not the actual artifact, that gave it the power to repel or harm vampires and demons. If they didn't have faith that it would work, then it wouldn't work for them. If they did believe, then it would, indeed, work.
 
white avenger said:
He does have a valid point there. If Whedon didn't want any mention of God or religion in his story, that's fine, he's free to ignore it. It just doesn't make sense to have Holy items have the power to repel or destroy vampires without acknowledging the Higher Power responsible for making them so.
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Oh I know he has a valid point. Especially in the genre they were really intwined. There was an article that I believe Buffy Summers posted about the removal of Christianity from the Christian images; and how they use the holy items without mentioning what made them Holy.
 
white avenger said:
He does have a valid point there. If Whedon didn't want any mention of God or religion in his story, that's fine, he's free to ignore it. It just doesn't make sense to have Holy items have the power to repel or destroy vampires without acknowledging the Higher Power responsible for making them so. They got around something like this in the "Highlander" franchise by simply saying that holy ground, regardless of which deity it was dedicated to, was universally honored. Joss could have done something like that, or used the explanation that was used in "Fright Night," that it was actually the power of user's belief, not the actual artifact, that gave it the power to repel or harm vampires and demons. If they didn't have faith that it would work, then it wouldn't work for them. If they did believe, then it would, indeed, work.
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That makes a lot of sense . Saying that it the user belief that gives it the power to do that.
 
Something along this line that just occurred to me...

Buffy once described herself as being "not particularly religious," and we never saw anything to indicate that Joyce had any beliefs of that nature, so, what do you think Buffy ever told her mother about wearing a crucifix (first, the one that Angel gave her when they first met, then, later, a smaller one) almost constantly once they arrived in Sunnydale? And, if she never told her anything, don't you think tat Joyce would have asked at some point?
 
Buffy could have said she liked how it looked & Joyce just went along with it maybe.
 
I don't think it's about Whedon not wanting to mention God or anything religious, in s6 he had Buffy say she had been in Heaven, there were the Christamas... May be he just didn't want the watcher character to be religious because it didn't fit with his idea and his story
 
Then how did those things work if that the case.
 
GoSpuffy said:
Yes, images are enough. Did they say bloody sake in the 1880's? Or maybe there is just a quota of bloody's that spike has to meet in each comic appearance?
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I love the idea that Spike has a quota of 'bloody' to meet. 😀
 
DeadlyDuo said:
Well he is known as William the bloody......
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Yup^^ William the Bloody Sexy. 😀

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