Still sharing passwords to stream free tv?

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Reposted from giz... emphasis added by me

The days of sweet, free streams with your friend’s boyfriend’s HBO login may soon come to an end.
A report from Bloomberg on Wednesday claims a “crackdown” on password-sharing is coming thanks to cable TV providers losing billions of dollars to streaming freeloaders.

Leading the charge against password-sharing, Bloomberg reports, is Charter Communications CEO Tom Rutledge, who reportedly railed against password-sharing at a recent industry conference and, to illustrate the problem, has claimed that a single account was being used to play 30,000 simultaneous streams.

In an effort to reduce the number of stream squatters, Charter Communications is reportedly asking Viacom, which operates popular channels like Comedy Central and MTV, to reduce the number of allowed simultaneous streams and force more frequent logins for paid users, according to Bloomberg. (Viacom and Charter Communications both declined to our requests for comment.)

ESPN has already reduced the number of simultaneous streams from its app from 10 to five, and an ESPN executive vice president, Justin Connolly, told Bloomberg the company may further cut that number down to three. However, it remains unclear whether other companies will jump on Charter’s anti-password-sharing movement. None of the other cable companies responded to our requests for comment on their potential plans. Amazon declined to comment, while Hulu’s general stance is that the larger its audience, the better.

Still, it’s easy to understand why these companies would want to put an end to illicit password-sharing. As ESPN’s Connolly described it, password-sharing is akin to “piracy,” and he said that the public’s indifference bolsters acceptance of the practice. An ESPN spokesperson told Gizmodo in an email that their stance on password-sharing “is not about penalizing users” but about “consumers understanding the value of content and that password-sharing and piracy hurts content creators and their ability to create it.”

Just over 20 percent of streaming viewers ages 18 to 24, and 12 percent of adults overall, said they logged in to at least one streaming service using credentials owned by someone outside their household, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll. According to Bloomberg, industry research firm Parks Associates found that one-third of internet users stream cable TV shows without paying for access, which, the firm estimates, costs cable companies $3.5 billion a year—a figure that could rise to nearly $10 billion over the next three years as more audiences move to streaming over traditional TV.

Efforts to reduce password-sharing—cutting the number of allowed simultaneous streams, as ESPN is doing, or forcing users to log in more often—could discourage account owners from liberally handing out their credentials at the risk of a more interrupted viewing experience. But who knows if that will have the intended effect.

It’s also unclear how many people will choose to pay for cable TV service or streaming services if they’re suddenly cut off from their free access.

“If they don’t use [the service] within the terms of use, we’re not happy,” Netflix CFO David Wells said at a conference last September. “We could crack down on it, but you wouldn’t suddenly turn them all into paid users.”
 
Figured it was only a matter of time before they started doing this. They should just offer levels a la Netflix where you pick a plan based on how many devices you want to be able to stream too; that way they make more money but don't piss off a large group of people.
 
You only get one screen with the basic plan.

Ah, yes, you are correct. You use to get two a while back but then they switched it up. I pay for the four screens plan and I'm pretty sure it was only $2 more per month than the basic. Although I think I recently read that prices were going up again.
 
We're on four screens with Netflix, which comes with ultra HD and the ability to download shows/movies to four devices. Which is great and all but Netflix sucks. They upped the price for that plan about a month ago.
 
Ah, yes, you are correct. You use to get two a while back but then they switched it up. I pay for the four screens plan and I'm pretty sure it was only $2 more per month than the basic. Although I think I recently read that prices were going up again.
It's more! LOL Basic is 7.99 and the 4 screen is $14.
 
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I clearly pay attention to my bills lol
streaming freeloaders

You are such a shit stirrer @Mr. Pole

Ok so - if I log into netflix on my friends account and click on the box with my name - the one she set up for me - is that illegal? It has my name on it? There are 5 different profiles when I logged in. I also didnt realise she was paying so much for it! Now I feel ultra bad.

It’s also unclear how many people will choose to pay for cable TV service or streaming services if they’re suddenly cut off from their free access.


Frankly I could not afford it - hence it being donated by good friends (another friend had donated me a years use before she did). I actually live under the poverty line (not a claim to chuck a whinge about lack of money but an actual fact).

I could use illegal streaming sites - but I use netflix because it is easy, and great quality. It does pause and drop out (more frequently lately) but not as much as illegal sites did. Is paying for the service and making a profile for someone who is NOT paying for it illegal? What about children's profiles? Can they not access their parents netflix?

I do not even have free to air TV access where I live. Cable is called Foxtel and only the very very rich have that. If I did not have netflix I would be restricted to illegal streaming sites 0r no new content at all. The tv channels after air streaming services require log ins and I have not been able to get my head around them, the service is too slow for my connection, nor are complete series usually available. I do not have a functional DVD player but do sometimes play my dvds through the laptop. I am no where near a dvd rental shop and looking at the prices you guys have discussed - it would be cheaper to buy netflix than hire dvds.

I am unaware of other streaming sites available in australia with that much content. Others in the past have tried to give me access to american sites but they have never worked due to region blocking.

So am I in the wrong here? If this is illegal to do - how does the world see the future of donations of entertainment to the less fortunate? Do we just not deserve it? Someone IS paying for the service - its just not me.
 
Yeah I feel like you get x number of profiles so those are yours to do with as you will.
But I thought I read somewhere that it had to be in the same household. I went looking for that earlier and didn't see it. I know I read it in the terms and conditions somewhere.
 
I agree with Buffy, if you pay for X number of profiles, then it shouldn't matter who you give those profiles too; at the end of the day its being paid for so who cares who is actually watching. On the other hand, if you pay for only one profile and are allowing twenty different people login into your account to watch, then I can see how that might not be fair...or annoy the streaming companies.

But I thought I read somewhere that it had to be in the same household. I went looking for that earlier and didn't see it. I know I read it in the terms and conditions somewhere.

I heard that too, but they haven't done anything to enforce it. I pay for my Netflix account (4 screens) and use it at two different households and we've never had an issue.
 
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