Stopping The Occasional Apocalypse...

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Do you think that stopping apocalypses a common duty for Slayers, or something unique to Buffy? From what we saw in "Tales Of The Slayers," and "Tales Of The Vampires," most Slayers more or less traveled from place to place, wherever vampires were reported. Buffy seemed to be the exception, since all the major Big Bads, with dreams of subjugating the world, seemed to be drawn to the Hellmouth to carry out their plans.
 
Maybe? We wouldn't necessarily know because the show isn't about those slayers and those apocalypses aren't relevant, so it's possible.
 
I always thought that was just a Buffy thing. From what the show has shown us, it looks like the other slayers really just fought vampires. The ones we knew that died, were killed by mere vampires and not a Hellgod or a Mayor Demon snake.
 
I always thought that was just a Buffy thing. From what the show has shown us, it looks like the other slayers really just fought vampires. The ones we knew that died, were killed by mere vampires and not a Hellgod or a Mayor Demon snake.

If that's the case, then Buffy had really bad luck, as in absolutely terrible. If Karma was a thing then she must've done something horrifically awful either in a past life or as a child.
 
I always figured it was something all slayers had to deal with, but that most of them weren't alive long enough to have to stop many.

If it is specific to Buffy, what is it about her that draws all these apocalypses?
 
My headcanon is that magic is like tides in the Buffyverse, magic (and its manifestations) ebbs and flows, waxing and waning like the moon. For the most part, magic is hard to do and come by, but there are times when the stars are right, prophecies are ready (to me, prophecies in the Buffyverse seem more like rituals that take generations, because it's not so much that they come true but that when all that happens as it said it should then it becomes possible for the events to happen, like a very complicated spell, which is why the cults and demons are so busy in making sure all happens as the uber-ritual demands), and in these times magic becomes more common, easier to use, and that also leads to more demons, prophetic conditions, and the like.

Heck, an apocalypse often has signs which suggests the natural world is breaking down with more demons and occult manifestations, which I'd think would also mean more magic. Is it the apocalypse doing it, or is it the magic making the apocalypse more viable?

Buffy got called as the tide of magic was still rising, and peaking by the time of season 5, which is why so many plans came to fruition since people as the Mayor and Glory finally had the magic they needed (though granted, more was still needed that they saw to), and many secret societies (and Wolfram & Hart) probably had their own secret projects going on adding to the ambient magic as they were tapping the same forces as the Mayor and Glory and the Master. Note that the Master and that demon Balthazar (the one in serious need of a stairmaster) were coming to power at about the same time as the Mayor meaning, to me, that the magic was lifting all the boats, not just the Mayor's, and not just Buffy and Willow. But before that they were all forced to bide their time (ranging from decades to centuries) as the magicks, while still present, were too weak.

Heck, you could say that it was still rising after which helps explain the retconned magic (so that Willow could suddenly phase people into other dimensions or turn them into animals with Amy on a whim, standards that would've seemed absolutely ridiculous in season 1, or even season 3!). Furthermore, it would also explain why things like unique magical urns could be found on ebay by Willow as normally they did people no good so were more curiosities, and thus easily attained by those who realized "the rules have changed and those work again." Even Anya mentioned more than once about magicks not used in over a thousand years were being used now. This would also explain many of the things shown in season 5 Angel as I'd think the world would be different otherwise. For that matter, compare the Wicca group at UC Sunnydale in season 4 and 7. The rising tides of magic could explain the very notable differences between them!
 
If it is specific to Buffy, what is it about her that draws all these apocalypses?

Possibly a permanent assignment guarding the Hellmouth, which seems to be unique to Buffy. As for "all these apocalypses," could it be possible that "all these" were simply attempts to launch the actual Apocalypse, which Buffy and her friends have so far managed to prevent from actually starting? Imagine that all of the seasonal Big Bads, from the Master to the First Evil were merely agents of a single Power, whose intent was the destruction of mankind and the return of the Old Ones. It keeps trying to break out, sending various generals and their respective armies to achieve a successful first assault, and Buffy is always there to prevent it happening. Then, with the Hellmouth being permanently closed after Season 7, that Power would have to regroup, reorganize, and prepare to launch a new assault, focused on the hellmouth near Cleveland.
 
I don't remember Faith mentioning having to stop any apocalypse when she arrived in Sunnydale, and she was full of stories about her exploits. Kendra was very dutiful, but I think she would have mentioned if she had to save the world prior to meeting Buffy. I think being stationed on the Hellmouth is what makes Buffy special
 
Hi everyone! I know this is an older thread but I've finally made an account here and was happy to see someone bring this up, because it's something that's bothered me for a while. I love Buffy (the show and the character), and am usually a very relaxed audience member who doesn't bother worrying about logistics or realism, but it's just such a glaring problem to me.

On one hand, I get that part of the charm of the show is that it's very precarious, and really the world could have ended many times over if Buffy ran a little slower, or someone had a car accident on the way to save the world, or someone was having an emotional crisis with really bad timing. The world in Buffy is basically always right on the edge of ending, which makes for suspense and fun and all those good things like apocalypse season. The problem is that if what we see happening during Buffy's time as a slayer is indeed standard fare in history, then how the heck is the world still there?! It would never have made it, especially if other slayers were dropping like flies all over the place, presumably right in the middle of an apocalypse. Which they would then fail to prevent, because they were busy being dead, and their rookie replacement probably wouldn't be standing right next to them waiting to carry on the fight. It'd be more believable if it was really restricted to one lonesome hellmouth, but even in Buffy's time you have big things happening in places that are not Sunnydale so Buffy can't do anything about it. Like all those times that Angel had to save the world because he happened to be in LA at the right time and had randomly decided that he had a big mystical role as a Champion of the Light in service of the Powers That Be, which is a separate issue that I'll ignore for now.

On a more relevant topic, even if we ignore all that and just say the world is a damn lucky planet, then there are still huge problems with magic in the Buffyverse. I'm not saying slayers should be 100% immune to magic or anything because that's no fun, but am I alone in thinking the mythology could use some work if the lone protector against the hordes of evil can be made into a rat instantly by an amateur high-school witch? Who needs to worry about the slayer stopping their nefarious plans when you could just sic a cat on her? It's just ridiculously imbalanced at points, and either played for laughs or made to feed the super-Willowification later on. The reason I'm bringing the magic thing up is because I really like when people (in fan fiction especially) come up with theories like thrasherpix to help explain things a bit better. For instance, if you wanted to go a certain route you could say Willow only got to those power levels because she was subconsciously leeching power from either the hellmouth or even Buffy herself, which opens up lots of neat ideas to explore. Or it's like a millennial thing where, like thrasherpix suggested, the conditions have to be right for all these crazy things to happen. I'd imagine there were a few close calls/successful min-apocalypses (apocalypsi?) eons ago where some manageable hordes of hell got loose and things got hairy, but I can't see that working into modern human history terribly well, as hordes of hell aren't known for subtlety. For some reason it's easier for me to ignore the fact that having just one non-bullet-proof human to keep millions of demons under control on a regular work day is completely ridiculous because at least they point that out. When you have one of the slayer's sidekicks able to literally kill her on accident because she screwed her emotionally-charged magic up or something, it just gets to be too much.

Phew. Sorry, I tend to get ranty when I have nobody to share my excessive Buffy thoughts with. Consider yourselves lucky I kept it short (for me)!
 
Carrie Hopewell
Carrie Hopewell
Interesting post! Don't worry, this is the place to rant about Buffy. Can't count the number of times I've done that myself :)
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