Streaming vs Traditional Cable TV

TheMaster666

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I'm getting a little tired of some of the negatives of Streaming. I love streaming television, and I think it has many benefits. For one, streaming to my laptop feels more personal than watching something on the home TV. I prefer streaming whenever I want to really get into a show I care about. But the downside is that I feel like with streaming, sometimes it feels like it just never ends. With regular tv, you have ad breaks (and oddly I'm far more comfortable with ad breaks on regular TV whereas I despise them on streaming services) and once an episode ends, next hour will be something different so you have reason to stop watching and get up and do something else. But with streaming, even if I don't really want to watch the next episode, it's like the temptation is always there to just see one more because of how easy and immediate it is. This is made so much worse with the awful "autoplay" features or minimizing the screen before the episode ends that companies do to try to actively psychologically manipulate people into keeping their asses glued to the seat and eyeballs to the screen, by preventing that release you get once you've reached the end credits. They try to make you feel like you're never really done, and if you get up, you're no more relaxed than when you began. I hate it. Is it just me or does anyone else kinda wish for the days when old school tv was a little easier to disconnect with and say, "Alright, I'm done now."
 
Yeah I hear ya. If I am watching a show, I want to watch it until it is done, but then get sick of it yet keep watching! It makes it less enjoyable in the end if you're over it.


Lately I have been watching a lot of my streaming through free to air channels, so I am still getting ad breaks to use for chores. I get on the reality show wagon for nights, just because if I dont watch it as it airs, its spoiled on twitter (survivor, masterchef etc). That gives an easy tv routine for me. Mindless zone out fun stuff.

When binging, I still get up to leave the room and tend to miss a lot of the story. My laptop is slow and freezes if I muck around with it too much, so pausing is more trouble than it is worth. I am less engaged with the content overall because I miss bits. Sometimes this is ok because I can rewatch and pick up more, other times it takes the magic out of the twists.
 
I hate when it minimises the screen at the end because sometimes the end credits have a really good song that I'd like to stay immersed in.

I think it's best when shows do weekly episode releases, I would normally only binge 2 or maximum 4 episodes of a new show a day because I'd get tired after that.

Also I wish there was a way everyone could be on the same page as each other, watching the same things.
 
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thrasherpix
Cutting off the end credits is a major pet peeve of mine when it comes to streaming. Even those that allow it usually give a very brief time window.
TheMaster666
TheMaster666
I agree with all of that. Cutting off the credits should be a cardinal sin, and sometimes they even do it before the credits!
One episode a week is enough for me.
 
I stay in hotels pretty regularly so streaming is enormously beneficial for me. I'm not a binge watcher because I get fatigued if I look at a screen too long; actually, I often exit out of an episode midway through and then come back to it later 🤣 . I have a cable TV subscription but I don't utilise it much. That being said, I'm a huge fan of physical media!
 
Guess I feel pretty much the opposite. To be fair...
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We were just discussing cable vs. streaming at work yesterday. My coworker claimed that most people don't have cable anymore. I said I thought it was a generational thing. That older folks still have cable.
I have never had cable, but I'm a millennial, so maybe that factors in? I did comment that if you watch a lot of sports or news, having cable is good because there are many options. I watch movies on the free channels on my Roku. Before I got that, I'd rent DVDs at the library or the video store (when there still was one, the last one in my city closed in 2018). I also have a small collection of my favorite movies on DVD I like to rewatch, then I don't have to worry about them being on streaming or not.

That said, on the free channel son Roku, there are commercials and you can pause it if you need a break. but I see what you're saying.

I miss the 90s a lot, and one of the things was rushing home from school to catch a show on Tv, and running to the bathroom during commercials, with fear you would miss something. But you wanted to see the commercials too, because they were fun and sometimes has celebrities in them. I remember in like 97, there was a commercial for Eggo Waffles with the kids from Hanson, and I would sit and watch for HOURS just hoping to see that commercial. Kids these days will never know what that's like. Because they can just pause Netflix.
 
Not owning an actual television,I stream everything, either from the free versions of terrestrial television, other free sources or Netflix. The free ones usually do have adverts, which can't be skipped so i so still get that experience and often its just one episode at a time.
 
We recently switched from cable to Sling TV so that we can still have certain channels. One thing I like about "Live TV channels" is that you don't have to choose, the channel tells you what's on TV, is reduces the choice. Because I could go on Netflix and search for 30 minutes for something to watch, and then not even watch anything after that. I also don't mind watching Ads, I like having the break to get up and go to the bathroom or grab a snack. I like streaming, but I do think that there's a lot of differences between streaming shows and network shows. Streaming shows are shot differently, and structured differently because they don't have ad breaks built in. I miss the narrative structure of shows like Buffy. Streaming shows are more like Premium Cable shows like HBO or Showtime. I find I actually watch less TV on streaming than I did with cable.
 
I didn't mind ads on TV when I was young...and as they were louder (as they expected you leave the room) I could tell when to race back from whatever chore or what have you I was doing.

But then after years of almost no TV watching, the ads had become too much. Those who had kept watching rather than going for years without TV as I had didn't realize it, at least acclimated to it. But for me it was like ads that were "now here's a break from our ads for the show you wanted to see." Sheesh.

While I don't think this was true of all, there was at least one show where I timed it, and the ads actually played longer than the TV (as in if the ads were cut out, the hour long show would be a half hour, or the movie with a half hour or more shaved off the viewing time).

I usually didn't mind cliffhangers as long as they were rare. Buffy the Vampire Slayer did this well. I was less happy, but generally tolerant, when say the X-Files or Star Trek: Next Generation pulled this off as a series finale (especially as it seemed to me that the continuation in the next season was a lot more half-ass).


On the other hand, the never ending bit to keep you watching with streaming does bother me, and I've learned to stop somewhere in the middle. (Thankfully, most will automatically restart me where I left off.)

It's gotten too crazy with finales as well, particularly bothersome on networks infamous for just never continuing a series. I realized recently that when the supposedly final season of Stranger Things comes out, I have no intention of watching it, despite loving that show. If I chance upon it, sure. But I'm not going to pay or go out of my way just to watch it. I'll be content with whatever I find on the wiki about it later. I think this is the first that I've got burned out not by the show simply refusing to end with some dignity, but because it's just too long a wait. In my gut, I just don't care. I'm not mad or anything, just uncaring. (But I'd have handled the wait better if it had some kind of ending point than a cliffhanger.)

And I currently have no cable or streaming service that I pay for, and it's entirely possible I never will again. I've lately been getting into books again. And I'm sure if I wanted, I could get into some role playing game group (with people my own age) quite easily since that's no longer a fringe hobby. I preferred those for various reasons I won't got into here.

Just saying that I think streaming services and cable take us for granted. And maybe there's enough people that they can afford to do that with (I do remember how I camped and hiked for days to make it back to town at dusk to see the glow of the TV coming out of nearly every home), but I'm not one of them.



On a side note, there used to be one official narrative (alternatives existed, a few popular that grew into major networks of today, but even they had to acknowledge the common point of reference back then, otherwise it was too much like a cult when trying to communicate with the rest of society). That has changed today, and while I once thought having many different viewpoints available would be good (with the bad), I've found people in general gravitate to their echo chambers (be it their preferred fables to pseudo-news) to exist in bubbles that destroy the common point of reference. At best, that makes it useless. Well, clearly not for some people, but I think society has become worse for it rather than better...and I didn't think it was that great to begin with.
 
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But with streaming, even if I don't really want to watch the next episode, it's like the temptation is always there to just see one more because of how easy and immediate it is.

That's the problem I ran into with Game of Thrones. I watched the entire series in roughly two months because I could. And I'll never be the same again. 😄
 
TheMaster666
TheMaster666
I was guilty of that with Buffy at times. Season 5 or 6 or even 7 I think I finished half the season in the span of a few days or a week
I didn't mind ads on TV when I was young...and as they were louder (as they expected you leave the room) I could tell when to race back from whatever chore or what have you I was doing.

But then after years of almost no TV watching, the ads had become too much. Those who had kept watching rather than going for years without TV as I had didn't realize it, at least acclimated to it. But for me it was like ads that were "now here's a break from our ads for the show you wanted to see." Sheesh.

While I don't think this was true of all, there was at least one show where I timed it, and the ads actually played longer than the TV (as in if the ads were cut out, the hour long show would be a half hour, or the movie with a half hour or more shaved off the viewing time).

I usually didn't mind cliffhangers as long as they were rare. Buffy the Vampire Slayer did this well. I was less happy, but generally tolerant, when say the X-Files or Star Trek: Next Generation pulled this off as a series finale (especially as it seemed to me that the continuation in the next season was a lot more half-ass).


On the other hand, the never ending bit to keep you watching with streaming does bother me, and I've learned to stop somewhere in the middle. (Thankfully, most will automatically restart me where I left off.)

It's gotten too crazy with finales as well, particularly bothersome on networks infamous for just never continuing a series. I realized recently that when the supposedly final season of Stranger Things comes out, I have no intention of watching it, despite loving that show. If I chance upon it, sure. But I'm not going to pay or go out of my way just to watch it. I'll be content with whatever I find on the wiki about it later. I think this is the first that I've got burned out not by the show simply refusing to end with some dignity, but because it's just too long a wait. In my gut, I just don't care. I'm not mad or anything, just uncaring. (But I'd have handled the wait better if it had some kind of ending point than a cliffhanger.)

And I currently have no cable or streaming service that I pay for, and it's entirely possible I never will again. I've lately been getting into books again. And I'm sure if I wanted, I could get into some role playing game group (with people my own age) quite easily since that's no longer a fringe hobby. I preferred those for various reasons I won't got into here.

Just saying that I think streaming services and cable take us for granted. And maybe there's enough people that they can afford to do that with (I do remember how I camped and hiked for days to make it back to town at dusk to see the glow of the TV coming out of nearly every home), but I'm not one of them.



On a side note, there used to be one official narrative (alternatives existed, a few popular that grew into major networks of today, but even they had to acknowledge the common point of reference back then, otherwise it was too much like a cult when trying to communicate with the rest of society). That has changed today, and while I once thought having many different viewpoints available would be good (with the bad), I've found people in general gravitate to their echo chambers (be it their preferred fables to pseudo-news) to exist in bubbles that destroy the common point of reference. At best, that makes it useless. Well, clearly not for some people, but I think society has become worse for it rather than better...and I didn't think it was that great to begin with.

I've always liked multi-episode arcs, and again imo that is one of the benefits of streaming. For example, the classic Doctor Who episodes were generally about 25 min in run-time, but each (almost always) individual/episodic story had contained generally 4 or sometimes 6-7 of these 25 min. episodes. Watching all the episodes back to back for the 4-parters; or on two separate days for the 6-7 parters made it more enjoyable for me. (Except for the really old William Hartnell-era stuff that has the pacing of a snail.) It's like watching a movie. Even in the X-Files, I always enjoyed the longer on-going plot threads for the same reason.

I like it when the writing and the quality of the show is so damn good that it really pulls you in.

What I don't like is when the streaming companies artificially try to coerce people into staying longer than they otherwise would, by abruptly and randomly ending the show before it's actually over (i.e. before the credits finish), or by trying to auto-play videos unless you quickly click in the next 5 seconds. These are the scummy tactics seen on Youtube, another site designed to suck people's time doing endless amounts of nothing. If I use Youtube, I have many browser extensions that clean up a lot of the crap on that site. (Highly recommend the "Unhook Youtube" extension on Chrome/Chromium browsers.) I can't imagine using it in its default state. TV, at least good tv, is supposed to be an art form. It took creativity and talent on the part of the directors, writers, actors, make-up/costume people, musicians, etc. It shouldn't be treated like the same free shovelware on Youtube. It should be given a little respect, I think.
 
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thrasherpix
I prefer the old YouTube. I'd rather that those who choose to make a living through YouTube had their own services, but that goes against monopoly (as if monopolies are the same as free enterprise, when I consider them at odds with each other).
I'd wager that many people like me (bipolar and obsessive compulsive) are better off not having "complete" control of our television viewing 24/7. In other words, commercials force us to take a break because sometimes we just CAN'T hit the pause button. 😅 We see that little countdown message ("...next episode in 10, 9, 8, 7...") on the screen and we KNOW that we can stop it...but we just don't. Even if we need to sleep, or study, or whatever. A power greater than us overtakes our rational thinking....
 
I like the convenience of streaming, until that convenience gets into other parts of my life. I think it's made things better, but also has put wild expectations of media creation.
 
I prefer the old YouTube. I'd rather that those who choose to make a living through YouTube had their own services, but that goes against monopoly (as if monopolies are the same as free enterprise, when I consider them at odds with each other).

Here are some of the extensions I use to make that website more bearable:

Adblock for Youtube

Youtube Refined: Improve Youtube's UI

Youtube Grid Search Result

Youtube Redux

Return Youtube Dislike

No Youtube Shorts

and the aforementioned Unhook: Remove Youtube Recommended Videos

Check them out on the Chrome web store.
 
Kendar
Kendar
You forgot Youtube: The Quickening and Youtube2: Electric Boogaloo.
Stake fodder
Stake fodder
Wow, thanks! I never knew about this stuff.
That's the problem I ran into with Game of Thrones. I watched the entire series in roughly two months because I could. And I'll never be the same again. 😄
You should do 15 seasons of Supernatural next 🤣🤣🤣 Im starting with the last 5 seasons. Prepare for Emo Me.
 
I pay for DirecTV Stream because they have the two channels which carry my local sportsball teams (Colorado Rockies, Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche, Colorado Mammoth).

It's possible to find all their games on shady pirate websites and I did it for a few years, but ultimately it's more work than it's worth so I just pay to get the games on TV.
 
I pay for DirecTV Stream because they have the two channels which carry my local sportsball teams (Colorado Rockies, Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche, Colorado Mammoth).

It's possible to find all their games on shady pirate websites and I did it for a few years, but ultimately it's more work than it's worth so I just pay to get the games on TV.

What I hate is how the cable companies price gouge. If you literally want 1 channel you got to pay special price for that channel, then also get the mandatory minimum basic tv subscription, also the cable box which btw you don't buy but we charge you rent for every month, etc. and all these other fees and shit add up so for literally 1 channel you got to pay $75 a month. WTF?
 
What I hate is how the cable companies price gouge. If you literally want 1 channel you got to pay special price for that channel, then also get the mandatory minimum basic tv subscription, also the cable box which btw you don't buy but we charge you rent for every month, etc. and all these other fees and shit add up so for literally 1 channel you got to pay $75 a month. WTF?
There's a whole South Park episode that covers this
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TheMaster666
TheMaster666
I saw that episode. South park, always hilarious! I'm amazed the show is still pretty good after so many years.
Streaming has changed the structure of episodes. If they dont have the mini ad break cliffhangers, there is no spot to pause, no rest before the next reveal. Now the end of episodes and the credits are the new break spaces. Making some shows very slow and padded but others too swift.

Its the easiest way to influence people now, using more product placement rather than advertising breaks. The OA had blatantly obvious product placement, and I know it was a commentary on society but haven't got my head around it yet. Most shows influence in the form of bias, social/structural politics, medical, sport or fashion trends. Its sometimes more subtle than actual adverts, other times it sticks out like a sore thumb. Like when American shows use brand names for objects rather than descriptive names.
 
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