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In the midst of my current S7 re-watch, I noticed I enjoyed this episode more than usual, and it's one we don't often discuss on here.

What are people's thoughts on this episode?

Here are mine:

First scene: "Coddling" implies an overprotective impulse. Interesting choice of words on Spike's part, and even more interesting is Buffy's reaction to the words ("Go to your closet"). Perhaps putting Spike "in the closet" is an analogy for where she wants him "“ easily accessible, shut-in (as in controlled) yet safe from the outside world?

Buffy and Dawn's conversation on the bleachers is interesting. This is the first time we get to hear Buffy talk about what happened with Spike. She tells Dawn that no she doesn't love him but she does "feel for him." When someone says this, it implies they emphasize with the other person's struggles or what not. The question is, How does Buffy "feel for" Spike? How does she emphasize with his struggles at this point in his arc? It doesn't seem as though she feels bad for him, it seems like she means that she can relate to him. And Dawn makes a good point when she says that having a soul doesn't necessarily make someone a better man, using Xander as an example.

My overall comment? I feel like even though this is obviously a filler episode, and despite it not having a huge part in the greater arc of the season, this episode is important because it takes the show back to it's lighter, more campier roots. This episode is classic Buffy at it's best. You can't help but laugh out loud at many scenes in this episode.

Continuity: The thing that confuses me is when Buffy calls Anya her "friend" and expresses concern for her well-being an episode after she tried to kill her. The point here is that Buffy would and is willing to kill any one of her friends if she had no choice. Granted, Anya was never a close friend of hers, it just seems hypocritical of her to express such concern considering her previous actions in "Selfless."
Thoughts?

Other observations:

- Fun to see Dawn in Buffy's old cheerleading uniform.
- I think this episode is important to the development of Dawn's character. Despite the fact that Dawn is under the love spell for most of the episode, she does retain her basic personality traits (tear-eyed and angsty as per usual 😉
- There's just something so absolutely humorous about Dawn telling Buffy she "doesn't know what love is" and Buffy's completely helpless look of confusion. Classic. Reminds me of how Joyce used to look when she was trying to comfort Buffy back in HS.
- How funny is it how embarrassed Xander is after having been caught checking out Dawn at the Bronze? Now, that's Xander in character, in my opinion. In light of recent events, I guess I'm supposed to re-evaluate what I consider "in character", but his reaction always makes me laugh out loud. It's cute to see Xander and Buffy try to "parent" Dawn "“ they're so clueless!
- It's so ironic that Xander always walks in on Buffy "getting busy" with people! First Riley, then Spike, now R.J. Nice little continuation of that running joke in this episode.
- I feel like Buffy was being too hard on Dawn regarding dancing with R.J. Sure, she's young but it's not like she was getting wasted or anything. She was just dancing! What do you guys think?

This episode is just classic camp. Reminds me so much of the first season. The catfight, the love spell, the rising background music, the funny one-liners (Dawn's fear that she's the "pushy Queen of Sluttown!", "Get off the boy, Buffy. We're going home.", "What do you know about our love? It's true and real. This isn't magic, this is my heart!" and Willow's willingness to overlook a certain physical trait of R.Js; "Just think about who loves him the most. Clearly I do, since I'm willing to look past the orientation thing!), the trademark Buffyspeak ("No more with the talky!")....

This episode, to me, belongs in the categor that "Doublemeat Palace" and "Smile Time" belong in. They're filler episodes, and contribute little to the overall plot, but they're important because they bring much-needed humor to the series.
 
I love this episode cause it reminds me of the first three seasons of Buffy. The whole high school feel makes Buffy for me. Not to say I don't love the grown up seasons. I just prefer it when everything was lightweight and fun.

And I don't think Buffy overreacted to Dawn dancing at The Bronze. It was typical Mom behavior.
 
this is the greatest episode of season 7. maybe it's cause i hate season 7, but it's hilarious. it has some of the best lines, and the story is great.
Just A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
 
I have to say i love this episode, it is one of the few season 7 episodes that can make me smile and laugh every time i see it. I found it very funny when Willow and Anya fell in love with RJ and started bickering with each other and i also loved at the end when people say they wish they had never and Anya wont tell and the radio broadcast came on about a late night bandit! Love it!
 
I LOVED this episode so much,
it never gets old!
It's hilarious 🙂

why would Dawn cut up Buffys OLD cheerleading outfit :>|

was there any point? HAHA.
 
MinwaraYana
MinwaraYana
Becuz you've changed your sig again. Where's Dawnie Love!? :P
I love this episode too. I've never get bored watching it over and over. I love Anya's quote "Love spell spell spell".

And I agree with VisionGuy about the high school thing. Season 7 really needs this episode. 😉
 
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Tammarie
lol, forgot about that, the anti anti anti love spell spell.... spell :P
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Tasha
LAWL I change my mind like the Weather :)
- I can work around it!
That's my favorite line, just love it.

Agree that the show really needed an episode like this after all the heartaches and sorrows.
It's one of the funniest episodes of the entire series. It was such a joy to get a bunch of laugh out loud moments again.

/SK
 
I don't know why but I'm not a big fan of this episode. Which is strange since I usually like some sillyness in the show. There's scenes I really like but as a whole there's just something about the episode that puts me off.
 
Bluebird
Bluebird
Me too.
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ruth
not the best for me either, i find it kinda corny.
I like HIM and its good for laughs. I loved Anya turning off the radio when it announced there was a bandit on the loose...and the split screen thing happening and also Spike tackling Buffy when she tried to kill Principal Wood.
 
This episode has it's funny moments, but I found myself feeling sorry for Dawn. Poor thing... She tried so hard to get him and it still wasn't good enough. 🙁 I laughed at Willow's lines the hardest, but I thought that overall the episode was "just okay".
 
Ohh how i hate Dawn..SUCH A DRAMA QUEEN. Anyways, I just went back and watched it and I've gotta say its freakin hilarious...Best part buffy with the bazooka just standing outside principal woods window haha i just love buffy and her bazookas!(as proven by me using my bazooka all the time in COD5 with the gamertag iiBuffy Summers heh)
 
PrincessBuffy16
PrincessBuffy16
I hate Dawn to.She is so stupid!And I agree bazooka part was awesome :)
"Continuity: The thing that confuses me is when Buffy calls Anya her “friend” and expresses concern for her well-being an episode after she tried to kill her. The point here is that Buffy would and is willing to kill any one of her friends if she had no choice. Granted, Anya was never a close friend of hers, it just seems hypocritical of her to express such concern considering her previous actions in “Selfless.”
Thoughts?"

Giles tells Buffy later in the season that if it was again a choice between Dawn and the world "You'd let her die" ( I think he softened this from "kill her" for Buffy's benefit). She responds, "If I had too." If she would kill Dawn, there is nobody she wouldn't kill.
 
"Continuity: The thing that confuses me is when Buffy calls Anya her "friend" and expresses concern for her well-being an episode after she tried to kill her. The point here is that Buffy would and is willing to kill any one of her friends if she had no choice. Granted, Anya was never a close friend of hers, it just seems hypocritical of her to express such concern considering her previous actions in "Selfless."
Thoughts?"
I completely agree. I have always believed this, too. Basically, Buffy can be trusted by her "friends" when they're not jeapordizing the world or her mission.

The mission is who she is. It's her purpose, her passion, her identity. Not attempting to kill Anya after it came out what she was up too would have been out of character for Buffy. Still, in Buff's defense, you could see distraught she is in that scene. She really didn't see any other way.

And while this is off-topic, it's still worth mentioning that when Spike was doing the exact same thing (killing again) she refused to even consider staking him, saying it was "different" because he was under the control of the First Evil. I guess this is a great example of what Anya calls Spike's "get out of jail free" card.

Giles tells Buffy later in the season that if it was again a choice between Dawn and the world "You'd let her die she I think he softened this from "kill her" for Buffy's benefit). She responds, "If I had too." If she would kill Dawn, there is nobody she wouldn't kill.
Agreed again. Buffy now sees the bigger picture. She knows its the mission that matters, not her personal friendships or even who she loves. No one can be an "exception." Yet, I think she proved that mindset way before admitting this regarding Dawn - when she "killed" Angel to save the world back in Season 3 and she loved him more than "anything in this world."
 
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TheCheese
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I really love this episode.
I love Anya giving Willow the idea to make RJ a girl, and herself robbing a bank. "Ice cream? It's on me!"
I think that the episode would have made more sense if we'd seen an episode with RJ's brother using the jacket.
 
My favorite scene is Buffy with the Antitank Rifle they killed the Judge with in season 2, and Spike tackling her and whatnot, with Mr. Wood in the foreground sorting papers.
 
Yeah I love it... Wood's rocking out to some sort of elevator music, unbeknownst to the fact that Buffy was about to blow him into a gazillion little principal bits. LOL
 
This episode has it's funny moments, but I found myself feeling sorry for Dawn. Poor thing... She tried so hard to get him and it still wasn't good enough. 🙁

It's easy to forget that amongst all the fun in this episode Dawn actually tried to kill herself...
That's just how its supposed to be though. Many of the great Buffy episodes turns from funny to serious towards the end.

And once again we learn that love spells of any kind is a really bad idea. 🙂

/SK
 
It's easy to forget that amongst all the fun in this episode Dawn actually tried to kill herself...


Exactly... It was heartbreaking to watch her lay down on those tracks. It is a great testament to how seriously teenage girls take their crushes and feelings towards people... They think the world will end or that their life is over if they don't get that person they want so desperately to be with. 🙁
 
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