The Body

JustAnnie said:
The Body is one of the best episodes ever in my opinion. And the very best of s5. It was so realistic...Too realistic almost, I couldn't stop crying! And Anya was just brilliant, that speech...And Willow not knowing what to wear...Xander with the hand through the wall...Buffy's reaction, Dawn's reaction...It was all so...real...
Yeah, it was VERY realistic. It was so sad, Anya's speech about how she doesn't understand why Joyce can't be alive again. The episode was probably my second favorite (after OMWF).
Oh, and something I noticed...When Xander puts his hand through the wall and Tara says "it hurts" or something like that, it looks like Nicky is about to laugh...Anyone else notice that?
I think that was the only funny part in the show, that and Willow continuingly searching for her purple (or was it blue?) sweater, and it's under the cushion on their chair.
 
yea i found that funny, the only time I laughed was that and when Anya hugged Giles, The rest of the time I spent flooding to room!
 
It was so emotional when Buffy shouts at Giles "we're not supposed to move the body!", and she realises what she just said. She's just in shock and he runs to hug her.
I almost cried at Anya's speech in Tara and Willow's place, it was sosad! ::crying::
 
A question about the ep.

What does the scene when Buffy opens the backdoor and just starrs out into the sunlight represent? That scene always puzzles me, because I don't seem to be able to make a real meaning of it. I mean it's about the reality of her death and it's kinda a contrast to what is happening inside and in Buffys mind, but still. Joss doesn't even say anything about that one in the commentary, or does he? it was a while since I last watched it.

Any thoughts, ideas, comments about that scene?
 
Do you mean when she is waiting for the hospital? I was puzzled to that aswell. I asked me sis, but she gave me the 'don't worry its to complex for your primative mind' thing.
 
JollyApe said:
A question about the ep.

What does the scene when Buffy opens the backdoor and just starrs out into the sunlight represent? That scene always puzzles me, because I don't seem to be able to make a real meaning of it. I mean it's about the reality of her death and it's kinda a contrast to what is happening inside and in Buffys mind, but still. Joss doesn't even say anything about that one in the commentary, or does he? it was a while since I last watched it.

Any thoughts, ideas, comments about that scene?

You mean in their house..? If that's what you mean I think Joss does mention it in the commentaries. Probably something about Buffy seeing that something happens outside, things still work and all that although right now for Buffy time has stopped, and she can't understand that things are still moving outside. And that's probably why we don't get to see what's happening outside, cause we're supposed to be in this bubble which only contains Buffy's house.. And in Buffy's house everything is Joyce's death right now, nothing else exists.
(Ok maybe this wasn't the scene you meant..)
 
J
Jacklyn
My thoughts exactly!
My take on that scene is pretty much the same as Eponinethens'... It's an intense episode, in near real time. Buffy's taking some air, but also giving the viewer a chance to deal with the fact that our fearless heroine Buffy, Slayer of Vampyrs, has just been sick, and looks utterly wretched. If you listen closely you can hear kids playing in the distance. Buffy can hear them too. Maybe even see them. But they're in a different world to Buffy now, they're something alien. For now, there's nothing else in her world but the body.
 
I watched this today...I was really, really crying.

Last christmas, my nan was found dead like Joyce, and watching that ep. again really touched me...bcause the feeling I had back then came back. The cast were brilliant, and the whole thing was directed and made exactly how these things happen.

I always love Ally, so obviously I thought she was wonderful in the 'I need to change' scene, but Sarah Michelle Geller was as good as she could have been when she found Joyce. Her performance was both convincing and really touching.
 
Ryann said:
I always love Ally, so obviously I thought she was wonderful in the 'I need to change' scene, but Sarah Michelle Geller was as good as she could have been when she found Joyce. Her performance was both convincing and really touching.
I'm sorry about your nan Ryann, I've never experienced anything like this and I get completely depressed when watching this episode, I understand that it must be a lot harder when you have something in your one life.. that has been sort of the same..
I agree. The two of them..
Sarah in the beginning, she really gets show what a great actress she is, this is one of the episodes in which I just love her way of acting.. I couldn't breathe for the whole first scene, cause of the way she was.. amazing..
And Alyson, in that scene, with the changing of clothes.. and the not knowing what to wear, how to be, what to say, how to react.. When she cries, how good she is at crying.. That we see a lot close ups on her (and Amber).. I cry so much every time I see this..
 
I'm sorry about your nan Ryann. I have not watched this episode since, my freind died, but alot of it - like anya - I din't understand, like if I ever did have some kind of insident like that to happen to me, how I should react. But when it did, I didnt understand it more, like anya. I mean a fit and healthy 16 year old, or in this case 30-something year old, could just die like that and it wasent like they were in a crusshed car, or drowned in the ocean, just how the body could stop.
 
spike's_bitca said:
I think they got robbed when "the Body" didn't win an emmy

i think Buffy has been robbed of an emmy MUCH more than that episode (i always thought Passion should've got one it was a great episode)
 
I am not to clear in the whole US awards thing, but isn't Emmey awards only for shows on the "ABC" channel or sumethin?
 
Nope-Emmy's are awards for all TV-althought the award show is aired on the ABC network, so that might be where you got your wires crossed. 🙂
 
JollyApe said:
A question about the ep.

What does the scene when Buffy opens the backdoor and just starrs out into the sunlight represent? That scene always puzzles me, because I don't seem to be able to make a real meaning of it. I mean it's about the reality of her death and it's kinda a contrast to what is happening inside and in Buffys mind, but still. Joss doesn't even say anything about that one in the commentary, or does he? it was a while since I last watched it.

Any thoughts, ideas, comments about that scene?

I kinda got the impression Buffy was "contemplating the infinite" in that scene. Just letting her mind rest from the intensity she was experiencing, and hearing the kids playing was a reminder that life does go on, and somewhere else the sun was shining and kids were playing. My take.
 
killerdwarf said:
I kinda got the impression Buffy was "contemplating the infinite" in that scene. Just letting her mind rest from the intensity she was experiencing, and hearing the kids playing was a reminder that life does go on, and somewhere else the sun was shining and kids were playing. My take.
But was she ready for that..? I would've agreed if it were later in the episode.. But I consider this to be more like.. well, she hears that life goes on and the kids and everything but she doesn't want it to, go on, since everything has stopped she doesn't understand how kids can be playing outside and how things can go on happening.. cause in her house and mind and life everything has stopped and she feels like nothing will ever go on, this is stop, end, never anything more again..
 
'The Body' is Joss Whedon showing, once again, what he can do with an hour of TV time. An intense episode that keeps hitting you in the gut and doesn't let you out until the end and doesn't even give you an ending, as Dawn never does touch her mother's body.

I've mentioned this before, but Anya's speech about not understanding death always makes me cry, but the episode is full of great moments.

*Buffy's decent into childhood right at the begining ('Mom? Mom? Mommy?').
*The pause the 911 operator makes when Buffy says Joyce is cold.
*Willow trying at act like a grown-up and falling to pieces and Tara comforting her.
*Willow's 'put up your dukes' routine when she realizes that Xander needs someone to blame/fight cause he feels so helpless.
*Xander putting his fist through the wall, enabling them to be the Scoobies by having a crisis to solve, if only for a moment.
*The bonding moment between Buffy and Tara.
*The final scene with Dawn reaching out to touch her mother.

The thing about this episode was I never saw it when it first aired. Shortly before I bought the DVD, my father had passed away and my mother had died two years before that. The episode affected me because I understood everything the characters were going through. When my mother passed away, I was Dawn, determined to see my mom, because it wouldn't be real until I did. I was Buffy, going through everything in a kind of numb haze. By having Joyce die a ordinary, almost mundane death, Joss Whedon touched something that is in all of us, the fear of losing a loved one. And it is a fear that is inevitable because people die everyday and some of them might be our own loved ones.
 
J
Jacklyn
You're pretty new here, but I love your posts...they are always very intelligent and insightful. I agree with your thoughts 100%. Keep up the great posts!
It had the most powerful acting I've ever seen. I only have to think about the episode to start crying. My favorite things are Buffy at the beginning and all of Anya's performance but when I rewatch it I see so many of the other characters.

But I like when Anya says to Buffy "I wish Joyce didn't die...because she was nice and now we all hurt." and Xander looks at her, kind of embarassed for her being so blunt. But then Buffy looks up at her and says "Thank you" because she understands that Anya is really trying to be sympathetic.

There should be an award show for overlooked talent and it should be called the BtVS Award.
 
This episode was one of the best. Very realistic. Some of Sarah Michelle Gellar's finest acting to date. I hadn't seen the episode before this one, so when Buffy walks to the stairs in the very beginning and you see Joyce's body in the background, I was just shocked. Everything was so realistic, from Buffy's first reaction to her brief fantasy that she got there in time and her mom was okay. There was a few cute moments in the episode, like the gang's "We panicked." when they return with probably everything from the vending machine.
For acting, the people that stand out are Emma, Alyson, and of course Sarah. Even my mom complimented Alyson's acting, which is incredibly rare, as she can't stand the show. I loved the way the first on screen kiss between Willow and Tara was just put in, without making a big deal about it. It wasn't the One Where The Lesbians Kiss, it was natural.
I can't say much that hasn't already been explained by all of you, just wanted to contribute a little bit.
 
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