The Buffy Movie

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Doing a complete rewatch of every ep of Buffy and Angel ever. Now I know the movie is not strictly speaking a part of the chronology but I feel you have to include it to be complete.
Lets start off where it all began with Kristy Swanson and Luke Perry back in 1992.

The Good
Kristy is lovely, perhaps even more so than SMG, especially in her nightie. Love the scene where she rides the motorbike and some of the valleytalk. Principal Murray is also funny as is the 'What time is it?' gag. Love the idea that 'PMS is our secret weapon'
Paul Ruebens is good especially his death scene. And that's pretty much it

The Bad
Personally I think both Merrick and Lothos are way over the top. The Buffy/Pike relationship lacks credibility although it's interesting to think about Buffy/Oz? Angel is sorely missed. Kristy's lovely but nowhere near as good an actress as SMG. The finale is also not up to much. It's an OK film but it lacks verve

The Other
Quite a cast, double Oscar winner Hilary Swank, Ben Affleck, Ricky Lake etc. Reputedly Seth Green has a small role but I've never spotted him. You can certainly see the beginnings of the Buffy characters here;
Pike=Oz
Jennifer=Cordy
Kimberly=Harmony
Andy=Xander
Cassandra=Willow (although she dies!)
Murray=Flutie
No Ford from 'Lie to Me' though. The only characters to cross from the movie to the series are Buffy, Joyce, Hank and Merrick (in flashback in Becoming pt2). Joyce's 'What time?' line to Buffy is also repeated there but in a very different context. Joyce remarks to Buffy in 'Fear Itself' that she's not the social butterfly she used to be and also in WTTH that she's read parenting books.
I saw Luke Perry in 'When Harry Met Sally' with AH and he was very good (and certainly still a hit with the girls). A shame we never see Pike again in the series although he does return in the comics. I don't really think the romance between him and Buffy works, we sorely miss Angel/Spike. If you look at the video cover it has both him and Kristy, by the time it comes out on DVD it's just her.
Buffy later describes her pre-Slayer personality as Cordelia-like and she is. Ironically Merrick quotes Corinthians about putting away childish things but it's by clinging to her non-slayer life that Buffy is the most successful Slayer ever. She does recall the memories of past Slayers just as Dana does in Damaged so this is presumably something shared by all Slayers
Buffy says she aims to graduate, go to Europe, marry Christian Slater and die. By the end of Angel she's done 3 out of 4 (wouldn't it have been cool if they got the Immortal to be played by Christian Slater?)
Now of course if Normal Again is real then Buffy's delusion starts at the point she 'meets' Merrick and ends at the final scene of Chosen (the Buffy comics her dreams and/or perhaps she writes them for a living?). On the plus side although none of her Sunnydale characters exist it means that folks like Cassandra she based them on are still alive so she still has her Scooby-Gang and both parents when she gets out of the asylum. And she can always find a new Faith and Angel/Spike and name her daughter Dawn.
Lots of continuity changes. Vamps don't dust and can fly. Buffy doesn't miss the heart first time out as she later claims. It's much more overtly christian with the Slayer clearly god's instrument. Buffy has a built in vamp-detector which is alluded to in the series but not so strongly.
More cruelty to cats!
Good soundtrack from the Divinyls, they also did 'I touch myself' which Buffy recalls listening to in 'Lie to Me'

Questions;
Merrick says he is reincarnated but is that just him or all Watchers?
Do Faith and co all have the birthmark Buffy had removed?
 
Honestly I didn't hate this movie as much as i thought i would have but in the same right in my opinion it was poorly made and not something i'm likely to ever actually spend more than a dollar on if i ever see it at a yard sale maybe i'll pick it up but thats about the it, and if its ever on t.v I MAY watch it if there is nothing better on (and yes that includes Playhouse disney, I'd rather watch my sons shows than this movie)
 
Questions;
Merrick says he is reincarnated but is that just him or all Watchers?
Do Faith and co all have the birthmark Buffy had removed?

I think that both of those elements were either added after Joss wrote the original script or (wisely) dropped by the time the tv series happened. Especially the latter. Could you imagine a flashback to medieval times featuring Giles in tights? Or in Scotland wearing kilts?
 
Could you imagine a flashback to medieval times featuring Giles in tights? Or in Scotland wearing kilts?

Actually, I can:

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😀 Sorry, it was just too tempting not to use.
 
As long as we don't see him in that posing pouch he wore in Little Britain!:drunk:
 
As a separate entity from the show, I can enjoy the movie quite a bit. I am, after a all, a child of the 90s and this movie is very 90s. Although I might not have enjoyed it as much if Kristy Swanson wasn't Buffy--she really nailed that valley girl role (or at least when I think of as a valley girl). That's not what Buffy became, but it's nice to have it start out like that. Wasn't that Whedon's plan anyway, to have the typical vain valley girl become a hero?

My biggest issue with it though is Sutherland. Great actor but he didn't care about this film at all and it showed in all but a couple of scenes (when he drags drunk Pike away; when he makes a joke to Buffy).
 
It's funny. I love it. 😀

I was awe at Kristy Swanson's beauty at first. I was "SMG? Who?" for a little while.

There were some great scenes, but mostly great in funny sense. My fav scene is when Buffy gets off the motorbike.
My sister who likes Spike said "Aw, Pike is hot. I know I have things for guys who has 'pike' in his name. 😀
 
aw i've only ever saw like half of the movie,
it is that crap! :|
i refuse to watch all of it,
haha.
 
PLEASE GOD NO!!!!! Kristy Swanson more lovely then SMG?!!!!! This movie is total crap and I boycott it in loyalty to Joss Whedon, 7 years of BTVS, and 5 of Angel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:fighting1
 
Anya2012
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PLEASE GOD NO!!!!! Kristy Swanson more lovely then SMG?!!!!!

If you were talking about what I said. Well, I thought Kristy Swanson is more beautiful, but SMG is a cutie. I don't know what was going on in my head back there. 😀 But now, SMG wins everything. See...

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^Thanks Tasha for the pic 🙂
 
T
Tasha
HAHA ;D
I find it hard to sit through the whole movie, it's just lame really.
 
Personally, I think its a riot. Just the right amount of camp. I'm a sucker for teen 80s comedies. John Hughes was like, my idol.

Besides, without this, we wouldn't have the series. And if I'm correct, isn't the original film consitered canon?
 
My only real complaints about the original Buffy movie were Peewee Herman (his presence in the movie, not just that ridiculous death scene. I hate the man) and the way that Rutger Hauer played Lothos. Hauer made absolutely the freatest fantasy movie of all time, "Ladyhawk," and then he plays a lisping Dracula rip off. Disgusting! I haven't liked him in anything since.
 
Joan the Vampire Slayer
Joan the Vampire Slayer
Have you seen Peewee's Big Adventure? It's totally bizarre -and I mean more than the usual Tim Butonesque weirdness.
aw i've only ever saw like half of the movie,
it is that crap! :|
i refuse to watch all of it,
haha.

I had difficultly watching the whole thing as well, I think I made it about halfway through.

I don't think it's a terrible movie, but I find it extremely cheesy and over the top. It's a bit of an eye roller.
 
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