The definition of Evil

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Which has been the evilest villain in both series, I mean really evil, not just funny or whatever.

The one that would define evil for you.

I choose Adam, because he wasn't just I have this plan and I'll go through with it, he actually learned how everything worked and answered the big questions for himself. Knowledge is evil.

Caleb was really evil as well, had the personality and all.

And obviously, Angelus, for you know everything.
 
The pig from the basement all the way!...no,...seriously,Angelus,come on,the guy is almost the devil!
 
i think spike/WTB and caleb were pretty evil cause well they were pretty mean
 
My definition of evil is Angelus. He preyed on the fears and emotions of people until he finds their weakest spot where they're most vulnerable and he tortures them working from the inside out. That is truly evil. Plus, he's just scary and stalker-y on a whole other level...
 
i think that it would have to be Caleb i just loved his while attitude i think that he is truly evil. i also like Adam as well though the way he was soi curious about the world and stuff like that.
 
I'd have to go with Caleb. I don't think there's anything more evil than a person who has a cause for their evilness. Caleb in a twisted way wanted to cleanse the girls of their so called sins, that's going to make him more determined. Angelus just did it all for fun.
 
Originally posted by slayerangel
My definition of evil is Angelus. He preyed on the fears and emotions of people until he finds their weakest spot where they're most vulnerable and he tortures them working from the inside out. That is truly evil. Plus, he's just scary and stalker-y on a whole other level...

You've just described Mayor Wilkins, Caleb, Spike and Darla, as well. Frankly, I've always considered Darla the worst . She has a talent for manipulation that the others would envy. However, I think that Dark Willow was the worst of the corporeal bunch. The First Evil surpasses them all.
 
Angelus and Darla.. Willow was simply hurt and tried to manifest it...She was great I love her,but Darla and Angelus were way more dangerous and evil...
 
Originally posted by slayerangel
My definition of evil is Angelus. He preyed on the fears and emotions of people until he finds their weakest spot where they're most vulnerable and he tortures them working from the inside out. That is truly evil. Plus, he's just scary and stalker-y on a whole other level...

Originally posted by LadyLavinia
You've just described Mayor Wilkins, Caleb, Spike and Darla, as well. Frankly, I've always considered Darla the worst . She has a talent for manipulation that the others would envy. However, I think that Dark Willow was the worst of the corporeal bunch. The First Evil surpasses them all.


*Dark Willow was the most powerful,not the worst
*Spike,evil?,.hey!,when did it happen?,he was bad,not evil!,..he fell in lvoe with buffy without having a bloody soul,he got his soul because he wanted to be good,..come on,that is not evil!
Angelus was houndred times worse than him,..
Angel😀rusilla... She
was... an obsession of mine. She was pure and sweet and chaste...
Buffy: And you made her a vampire.
Angel: First I made her insane. (looks at her) Killed everybody she loved. Visited every mental torture on her I could devise. (Buffy looks away) She eventually fled to a convent, and on the day she took her holy orders, I turned her into a demon.
Angelus tortured and killed Dru,Spike,instead,fell in love with her,he loved her
Spike: I told you. I want to stop Angel. (snickers) I want to save the world.
Buffy: Okay. You do remember that you're a vampire, right?
Spike: We like to talk big. (indicates himself) Vampires do. 'I'm going to destroy the world.' (looks at the officer) That's just tough guy talk. (steps over to the car) Strutting around with your friends over a pint of blood. (sits on the hood) The truth is, I like this world. (pulls the cigarette pack from the officer's shirt pocket) You've got... dog racing, Manchester United. (pulls one out and drops the pack on the officer) And you've got people. (exhales) Billions of people walking around like Happy Meals with legs. It's all right here. (lights the
cigarette and takes a drag) But then someone comes along with a vision. With a real... (exhales) passion for destruction. (takes another drag and looks at Buffy) Angel could pull it off. Goodbye, Picadilly.
Farewell, Leicester Bloody Square. You know what I'm saying?
Buffy: (nods) Okay, fine. You're not down with Angel. Why would you ever come to me?
Spike: (stands and takes another drag, but doesn't look at her) I want Dru back. I want it like it was before he came back. The way she acts around him...
Buffy: You're pathetic.
He punches her in the face. She punches him right back.
Buffy: I lost a friend tonight!
Spike: I wasn't in on that raiding party.
Buffy: And I may lose more! The whole earth may be sucked into Hell, and you want my help 'cause your girlfriend's a big ho? Well, let me take this opportunity to *not* care.
Spike: I can't fight them both alone, and neither can you!
Buffy punches him hard in the jaw, making him flinch. He straightens
back up and feels his jaw, checking for blood.
Buffy: I hate you.
Spike: And I'm all you've got.
One guy wanted to destroy the world and send everybody to the hell,..but the other wanted to stop him and save the day,...guess who is more evil
Do you remember how Spike felt when he killed his mother?,.he felt bad as hell,..Angelus killed his whole family and didn't even care
DRUSILLA
Three?
WILLIAM
You, me, and mother. (Drusilla looks away, disappointed) We'll open up their veins and bathe in their blood as they scream our names across"” (he notices Dru's expression) What?
DRUSILLA
You...you want to bring your mum wif us?
WILLIAM
Whatever I was, that's not who I am anymore.
MOTHER
(snickers, walks up to him) Darling, it's who you'll always be. A limp... sentimental fool.
MOTHER
...You finally got your wish, didn't you? Sank your teeth into me. An eternal kiss...
WILLIAM
(shakes his head) No. I only wanted to make you well.(OH,THAT'S SWEET,..NO,..I MEAN,EVIL,..YEAH,TOTALLY EVIL)
MOTHER
You wanted your hands on me. Perhaps you'd like a chance to finish off what you started.
WILLIAM
(pushes her away, looks away from her) I love you(SOULESS VAMP TALKING) I did. Not like this.
*Caleb,well,I think that guy had a trouble,..mental trouble
*Richard was pretty bad,but he wasn't evil,the guy wanted to have the control of Sunnydale and all,but he didn't have the killer instints,..his character was a villian obviously,but he wasn't evil,he loved Faith,how could he be evil if he loved a person?
*Darla,well,she was a bitch,..I think she was a bit evil,but Angelus was worse,he was her childe and she couln¡t control him,he was the one who had the control,if she was that evil he would have been scared of her and he wasn't.
Master: Angel! He was the most vicious creature I ever met
Darla was there,...The Master said Angelus was worse than her
There's no person that is not scared of Angelus,the guy gives the order and everyone obeys or dies,after being tortured for a while.
Why do you think Angel exists?,because Angelus was the worst thing ever walked on Earth,if Darla was that evil,why didn't she get the soul?,Angel's soul is a punishment for Angelus because he was evil.

Humanity is a good thing in theory,humanity stoped Willow from destroying the world,the humanity is the good thing a person has,...if a person has humanity that person can't be totally evil
Judge:You!
Spike🙁rolls over to him in Drus defense)HohohoWhat's that,mate?
Judge:You two stink of humanity. You share affection and jealousy
Spike and Dru had humanity,they cared for each other,they had feelings,..good feelings,...love and affection,...good feelings are good things
GILES: Oh. How could I? In any case, the magic she took from me tapped into ... the spark of humanity she had left. Helped her to feel again. Gave Xander the opportunity to ... reach her.
Do you remember why she was going to destroy the world?,...well,in fact she didn't wanted to destroy it,she wanted to save it...sshe felt bad because people was suffereing so she decided to 'help' them
WILLOW: ...everyone. Oh. Oh my God. All the emotion. All the pain. No, it, it's too much. It's just too much.
GILES: (weakly) Willow ... It doesn't have to be ... like that. You ... you can stop it.
WILLOW: (panting) Yeah. I, I can. I have to stop this. (getting up) I'll make it go away.
GILES: Willow...
WILLOW: Oh, you poor *******s!
WILLOW: Your suffering has to end.

Judge:This one... cannot be burnt. He is clean. (removes his hand)
Spike: Clean? You mean, he's...
Judge: There's no humanity in him. (turns and goes)
Angelus: (faces Spike) I couldn't have said it better myself.
Angelus,well,no a bloody feeling,he didn't care anything,anyone,but himself,...

Well,I can keep writing forver,I better stop now,...Angelus is evil, the other guys are just bad boys(girls),..no wait,Angelus is bad too,the only evil character in the buffyverse is the pig!😛
 
Dark Willow wasn't really evil, she was lost and confused. Vampire Willow was more evil then Dark Willow because Vampy Willow WAS actually evil, without a soul. Spike was evil, but he wasn't pure evil. He shared love and affection... humanity. When the Judge tried to burn Angelus he said there was no humanity in him, therefore cannot be burned. I sound like an echo so... *Points to Magui's post*
That sums it up!
 
Angelus! I never thought I would ever see anyone on TV as evil as him. He is just evil in it's purest form. I mean, how can anyone hurt a puppy? Evil, I tell you!
 
Angelus. He was very evil. At first i though Adam, but i can't say he was really evil. He did what he was programmed to do. He didn't know good. To him, what he did may have been good. Darth Willow was bad, but that was more of a vegengce thing, not really evil. Or well, the obvious one is the First. Pure and complete evil. What's more evil than the first evil, the beginning and entity for everything evil in the Buffyverse.
 
Magui: wow...

I'd say Angelus. He can really get into someone's head and screw with them...but I'll put in a good (?) word for Warren. You could make a case that Angelus couldn't be good, what with no soul and all, (I'm not going there), but Warren had a soul and he chose to be evil. Didn't Willow sus out that he liked killing his girlfriend? Evil, evil, evil. But still, not as bad as Angelus...
 
Warren was probably evil,but Angelus is worse,no one comes close...except the pig😛(I'm obssessed with that bloody pig🙂!)
 
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