The first, Souled Vamps and Chosen One(s) (theory)

Khaych

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A few things hit me recently when i was thinking about the subject of why the first is making her move now.

First of all the implication (by Giles after seeing Baljoxa's Eye) is that it is buffy's recent rebirth that triggered the events. I'm not certain of this for more than one reason. I believe it was the first 'death' and rebirth in season 1 that triggered the events. As specified it would have been the rebirth that is the problem and not the death.

Here is my reasoning:
1: The largest event associated with buffy's first death is the birth of a new slayer. The latest death produced nothing, although the rebirth triggered a spirit and some ill-feelings. Nothing on the scale of a new slayer.

2: The first first became active in the third season and was beaten temporarily in episode 10 'Amends'. It took a full season after Buffy's rebirth (in season 1 finale) for the machinations of the first to become a factor. If you recall the first was after Angel to currupt him, and failing that, to kill him. It failed on both counts as Angel ulitimately was shown to be under the protection of the Powers That Be. Now. In a display of remarkable symmetry, roughly a full season after Buffy's latest rebirth the first is once again trying to (drum roll please) corrupt a Vampire with a Soul. There has to be something to that. Perhaps the first had chosen the wrong vampire initially? If so, this would imply that the events were set in motion earlier on, as the first has actively been persuing this goal (corruption of a souled Vamp) since season 3. The First is still on the same mission!

3: Sometimes we tend to forget some of the names by which Buffy is called. Slayer. Vampire Slayer. Prophecy Girl. Chosen one. It is the title 'Chosen One' that intrests me the most. It implies a choice (conscious or unconscious) on the part of some entity. But who? Not Buffy. Buffy neither chose herself (laugh) nor did she choose Kendra (at least she has no memory of it). Not the watchers. Is it the Powers? possibly. Maybe the spirit of the first slayer? This is an open question. The point is that she was chosen. Now to the point: She was chosen to recieve the powers or spirit of a slayer that gives her her abilities. There was a definate transformation of Buffy that enhanced her abilities in many ways, some we may not be aware of. She was 'gifted' with powers. This ties in in the next few points/thoughts.

4: Buffy still retains all the abilities of a chosen one to the casual eye. The abilities we are aware of anyway. Also, Faith has these same abilities., as did Kendra. That implies that there is not a finite limit to the powers 'spreading' across 2 seperate slayers. To the casual eye!

5: There HAS to be a limit. If there was no limit to the 'slayer power' then the entity choosing would most likely simply choose an army of slayers to get the job done. And that has never happened. That implies that either there is a cosmic rule being observed in the choosing, or there is not enough power or ability to go around, which would necessitate the choosing of only one slayer. This brings us to the next point.

6: Either a cosmic rule has been broken (resulting in whatever repercussions that breach of the rules entails) or the 2 current slayers are 'under-strength'. Now we know that they are are both physically as strong and coordinated as they should be. They both have all the abilities they are supposed to have to our perception. So what is the consequence of having 2 chosen ones?

7: The watcher records on the first are slim to none. The first is considered to be a pretty ancient problem and not one that every slayer faces, or one that a slayer has faced in a long long time, as evidenced by the watchers insufficient data. The first has existed all this time, but has kept it's hands off the slayer, at least directly. But that is no longer the case.

I'm thinking that the consequences of having 2 slayers are there and very real. It may be that there is some mystical energy that protects the slayers (and their line of succesors) from the machinations of The First. Those energies are stretched thin at the moment, and proving insufficient to the task. Another possibility is that the entity that chooses slayers has had it's abilties stretched too thin.

Any thoughts, ideas, rebutals, outright flames? All are welcome.
 
Originally posted by Khaych
A few things hit me recently when i was thinking about the subject of why the first is making her move now.


Here is my reasoning:
1: The largest event associated with buffy's first death is the birth of a new slayer. The latest death produced nothing, although the rebirth triggered a spirit and some ill-feelings. Nothing on the scale of a new slayer.

5: There HAS to be a limit. If there was no limit to the 'slayer power' then the entity choosing would most likely simply choose an army of slayers to get the job done. And that has never happened. That implies that either there is a cosmic rule being observed in the choosing, or there is not enough power or ability to go around, which would necessitate the choosing of only one slayer. This brings us to the next point.


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1.The First making HER move? The first is the wellspring of evil. A spiritual entity. Neither male nor female, or both. 2. Faith was still alive at the time of Buffy's latest death. No Slayer can be called till Faith is dead. 3.A lack of enough power to bestow on an army of slayers is not an issue. There is power to spare. BALANCE is the thing. Ying and Yang. Light and Dark. When the balance is thrown off the Universe works even worse than before (when things WERE in balance)
The Voice 🙄
 
1: I tried to leach all the pronouns out before i posted but left one in and called it a her. Good eye.
2: I know. In fact, I will even say: Exactly.
3: Just the point. As i said it's either a definable limit, or there is a balance issue (eg: a cosmic rule being broken - see point 6). Either way it points to it being the first death and rebirth which is the issue I'm trying to bring up. To be a little more open minded, we have to say that either it is a yin/yang thing OR there is a definable limit. I'm just covering the bases. To say that it is only a yin/yang thing is arbitrary and may be correct but may only be half of the picture. On the other hand, it might be the right answer..

To reiterate, my theory is that it was the first rebirth that caused the problem, not the second. Also, my theory is that a Souled Vampire is integral to the First's method, and Angel was merely the wrong one, or else either would work but Angel was not vulnerable enough.
 
although buffy died technically in season 1...she never was brain dead....so she didn't die really...but the most recent death was the whole 9 yards

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7: The watcher records on the first are slim to none. The first is considered to be a pretty ancient problem and not one that every slayer faces, or one that a slayer has faced in a long long time, as evidenced by the watchers insufficient data. The first has existed all this time, but has kept it's hands off the slayer, at least directly. But that is no longer the case.

The First in an unlimited evil and therefor may have never cared for the Slayers.

In season 3 it has shown interest in Angel as a soulless vamp agian, possibly for the same reason as Wolfram & Hart?

I believe this is a yin-yang sitch, which would mean the First is ignorant to think he can defeat good!
 
I believe the first evil wants to tip the scale once and for all, and to do that it needs to consume all the SITs entitys/essences and then kill Buffy and Faith and HE(IT) will become The Slayer.

Thats why all SITs except Annabelle(all though we dont really know about that) were ritually murdered.
 
I think the FE wants to do what the Master dreamed of in Season 1: to turn the Earth back into the "paradise for demons" it was before men walked the earth. (This would connect with the Angel series plot line as well.)
 
Originally posted by Tyra
I think the FE wants to do what the Master dreamed of in Season 1: to turn the Earth back into the "paradise for demons" it was before men walked the earth. (This would connect with the Angel series plot line as well.)

Sounds good except for one little thing. The FE is what makes DEMONS scared

The Voice ::wave::
 
Originally posted by 3rdStar
Sounds good except for one little thing. The FE is what makes DEMONS scared

The Voice ::wave::

Actually the First Evil is that Darkness fears 😛 The Turok-Han is that vampires fears.

But the first evil can get any evil on its side, even good - by manipulation and deceit, lies and digging into the mental to turn you into a little bot.
 
Originally posted by 3rdStar
Sounds good except for one little thing. The FE is what makes DEMONS scared.

Which means that the FE could rule all the demons; hence, the world.
 
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