The French Election
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Ethan Reigns
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If Le Pen wins, she will probably trigger a Frexit vote which would ease the pressure on Britain, but I think Le Pen would be a bad choice for almost every other aspect of France. Right wing politics never lives up to its stated goal of staying out of the economy, usually giving preferential treatment to campaign contributors. I don't happen to believe the government should stay out of the economy, nor do I believe that Le Pen is any better than Trump, one of the most inept politicians ever. In France, Macron appears to be leading and I think the momentum is going his way. I agree with the following video:
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Foxy
I am cookie dough!
I am personally a leftie but I think a centralist government would be most effective at the moment, because then you please both sides a littls bit. I feel like politics and anything these days has become so polarised and divisive. I don't agree with what Le Pen says but a whole bunch of people do. So instead of cutting the ties and yelling at each other. We should start the conversation and bridge those gaps between the two sides.
I hope that Macron wins.
I hope that Macron wins.
I don't really know much about this French election, other than one candidate is pro-Europe and one is anti-Europe. France is a big contributor to the EU, so I can't see Frexit being very well received, however we thought Brexit would never happen, yet here we are....
Foxy
I am cookie dough!
Can we get a better name though? Frexit sounds like a weird rash.
Athena
Doctor, Doctor. I have a very itchy case of Frexit!
HowiMetdaSlayer
if Italy votes to leave will it be Itexit? :p
Ethan Reigns
And if Portugal leaves, it will be Departugal.
ILLYRIAN
Druish Pervonian Wizard
I woke up this morning and I was a bit bored, then I hear crap about the French elections and the meeting of Australian Prime Minister going to America and they'll be honouring The Coral Sea war. Being as how that battle in WW2 was in Australia is Trump trying to prove how scared he is to not honour the battle where the battle took place.
Then news came through about the computer malware etc coming from Russia.
Its going to be a good day today.
Then news came through about the computer malware etc coming from Russia.
Its going to be a good day today.
Foxy
I am cookie dough!
RomanticSoul
Frell Me
I prefer Marion over Marine. The only thing where Marine might appear 'right-wing' is the 'banning' of Islam and stop of immigration. And then of course there is the Frexit thing. In ever other aspect Marine is hard-core left in a very bad way.
vellavu
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I'm a hard core rightist but if I were her I'll probably do the same: going full utilitarian, prioritizing Frexit and sacrificing other less important positions if it means getting more voters. Stances on economy/social issues are really much less important than Frexit right now IMO.
RomanticSoul
Frell Me
You know she doesn't have much chance to win. Legally maybe but you can bet Soros and cohorts (who are already running the EU anyway) will do election fraud any way they can. It's done in pretty much all elections. Hell it's even done in state elections in various countries (happened in my state in several different ways last time).
Mr Trick
Scooby
This and the German election later in the year should play a big part in the direction of the future of Europe, Brexit etc... It would certainly be strange to see Germany without Merkel and it would be sad too. Its starting to look the French result might be going the right way though😉 With the issues facing that country right now, its important to get a stable leader.
Fuffy
The idea of Germany without Merkel is one that everyone will need to wrap their heads around as she's been chancellor since 2005.
Antho
Scooby
I'm French and I can tell you that I'm sick of these elections. Macron, Le Pen! There is not one that is better than the other. Many French do not even go to vote, there will be a high rate of abstention. And whatever the candidate elected, it will be very far from unanimity and many French will demonstrate. We take a direction that scares me!
It's the apathy that makes me sad. I know a lot of people think not voting is a statement in itself, and I guess it is, but it's a negative backwards statement
Mr Trick
Scooby
Are there many indie parties who you could vote for as an alternative? That is normally the best option if you are not convinced by any of main parties. Also, you say you sick of the Elections. But isn't this the first one in awhile? Don't you have them every five years like is the norm in the UK?
RomanticSoul
Frell Me
Lets be real here. Whoever the EU wants to win, that person will win. Elections are useless when you have all these globalists interfering in them. And that's not tinfoil hat nonsense. It's very real.
You can forget Germany as being interesting because nothing will change here. There is no opposition party in Germany. And if there was they would have to go up against 5-8 who are all the same.
You can forget Germany as being interesting because nothing will change here. There is no opposition party in Germany. And if there was they would have to go up against 5-8 who are all the same.
Ethan Reigns
Scooby
Not so sure about that. The EU and the globalists certainly didn't want Brexit and now Frexit is looming on the horizon. Globalists can pour money into campaigns but that only gets a name out there. They still have to convince people to vote for them and that may be more of a struggle than money can provide. Globalists pumped a lot of money into the Democratic campaign in the US last year and it got them nothing. Don't forget that the major central bankers like the Rothschild and Rockefeller families like to fund both sides of wars and European unity does not sit well with them.
But as you state, Germany seems to be Merkel's and that is as it should be.
RomanticSoul
Frell Me
I think Brexit just surprised them, especially since it was a protest vote for a lot of people. And a yes/no vote is easier than general elections where you have a ton of parties. It's not even about money put into campaigns. It's about straight up election fraud.
The Rothschilds have nothing against EU, long as globalist leaders are in place. They have issues with countries that don't have a bank that's controlled by them (see Middle East). One has to just look up George Soros and how much influence he has over the EU, up to and including messing with elections.
It's not what it should be, non-insane Germans hate her and all establishment parties. And anyway Merkel is just a face, not the actual leader of Germany.
Mr Trick
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Well I for one think Germany are lucky to have a leader like Merkel. Its a tough time for the country, but things could be much worse without her. I don't buy the EU control how people will vote. I think the main issue is people having good options outside of the mainstream party, and for people to be engaged in politics.
RomanticSoul
Frell Me
It's been a long time since I've been utterly speechless but that sure did it. Merkel is not even the leader. She is just a face (much like most of the west European leaders).
Well that depends. Should the worst case of R2G happen, then yes. It just means all out civil war will be sooner than it would be should the current coalition remain in place.
The EU consists of unelected and self appointed 'politicians' who want one thing...power. And they are willing to destroy Europe if they have to. The EU can't control how people vote but they sure can falsify the results. That's what election fraud is.
They only EU countries who still have all their marbles together are the V4 states.
Bluebird
You should be so lucky, lucky lucky lucky! *sings Kylie*
Mr Trick
Scooby
I mean fair enough you know more about Merkel than me. But just one example recently is how she made her position clear on Trump's politics, but of course still engaged with him as a course of duty. That wasn't excately the right line to take, and is what our PM should have done. For me Merkel has a good mix of liberal values, and maturity. And I do see her as a good leader. Just my opinion.