Schillaci
Scooby
It would be unwise to make comments?? What the ****? That makes NO sense. You asked a question, I answered it.
I'll take your word for it, you sound quite experienced on the subject.
Ok...
The importance of Friends
- Thread starter Wanabee-slayer
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It would be unwise to make comments?? What the ****? That makes NO sense. You asked a question, I answered it.
I'll take your word for it, you sound quite experienced on the subject.
Cohen
Hellhound
No, you answered it before that post. The comment that i commented on was a comment toward BillieHunter. It wasnt a response to my post.
Schillaci
Scooby
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StuckinTraffic
Thanks for the link, I know just the person who needs it!
Cohen
Hellhound
I meant yours wasnt a response to my post...the one i commented on just now...
and in case you were wondering...
I scored a 10
What does your score mean?
You're as cool as cucumber. Even in touchy situations that could spark a theatrical reaction in most people, you seem to stay calm and composed. This likely stems from a rational, logical approach to life. Either that or you are just able to keep a lid on your emotions, even when you're flipping out on the inside. You are generally able to maintain perspective and see the big picture, even when the worse appears to be true. You know that freaking out before you really know what's going on results in the whole "mountains out of molehills" scenario. This is a healthy approach that allows you to cope well with most of life's trials, big and small. As long as you are not blindly optimistic to the point that you ignore trouble, you're coping very well.
now, either i test very well, or your drama queen assumption is false.
and in case you were wondering...
I scored a 10
What does your score mean?
You're as cool as cucumber. Even in touchy situations that could spark a theatrical reaction in most people, you seem to stay calm and composed. This likely stems from a rational, logical approach to life. Either that or you are just able to keep a lid on your emotions, even when you're flipping out on the inside. You are generally able to maintain perspective and see the big picture, even when the worse appears to be true. You know that freaking out before you really know what's going on results in the whole "mountains out of molehills" scenario. This is a healthy approach that allows you to cope well with most of life's trials, big and small. As long as you are not blindly optimistic to the point that you ignore trouble, you're coping very well.
now, either i test very well, or your drama queen assumption is false.
BillieHunter
~**Hillbilly Hunter**~
Congratulations you win the piss people off award. I just bitched you out. Did that make me the better person for standing up for myself? No. I just sunk to a level I shouldnt have. And did it make me feel better? No. Therefore, thats why I think it was the better thing for her not to "bitch them out." But if thats somethign you think is the better thing to do and it makes you feel better. Fine, its up to you.
Sorry if this sounded mean but i just wantyed to make a point. I wouldn't normally "stand up for my opinions" in this way, but sometimes to make a point you have to be hypocritical. To show that doing what you just did is NOT the way you should go about it. But if for some people this way of standing up for themselves works, then so be it.
Cohen
Hellhound
Schillaci
Scooby
doppelgänger2
Meh.
You guys, either you go and find yourself a dictionary to look up the words "friend" and "friendship" and start discussing it here, or you take all your issues somewhere else where they belong.
Geeeze... I a pleasant discussion really too much to ask for?
Geeeze... I a pleasant discussion really too much to ask for?
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StuckinTraffic
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Mesektet Ra
a walking insurrection.
Back to the original topic...
I think that first and foremost, you should be comfortable with yourself to rely on, as a person. PJ isn't saying that friends are a bad thing, but you just can't rely on other people the same way you can rely on yourself. Other people help, but most of the time they do more harm than good.
I'm not saying I don't have friends - I do, and I love them completely and truly, because I know that these people brook no insolence from me, tell me when I'm being stupid, and try to right me when I'm wrong. That, people, is the definition of a friend. But I think you have to be at a certain point where you're comfortable with yourself to have friends - i.e., what happened if all of your friends just up and hated you from this day on? What if they left you in the dust? All you would have is yourself, and that's the point. When the sh-t gets too thick, you're the only one you can rely on, because your friends aren't/can't be there for you.
Now, Wannabee, Elmo, I grew up in a really messed up family. My father died last year because of alcoholism. When something like that happens, there are only a handful of people around you, if any at all, than can understand what you're feeling. For the most part, you have to deal with it on your own. Your friends can't help you through something like that.
Also, a group of friends that follows eachother around like sheep isn't a group of friends, that's a damn cult. Just thought I'd add that.
I think that first and foremost, you should be comfortable with yourself to rely on, as a person. PJ isn't saying that friends are a bad thing, but you just can't rely on other people the same way you can rely on yourself. Other people help, but most of the time they do more harm than good.
I'm not saying I don't have friends - I do, and I love them completely and truly, because I know that these people brook no insolence from me, tell me when I'm being stupid, and try to right me when I'm wrong. That, people, is the definition of a friend. But I think you have to be at a certain point where you're comfortable with yourself to have friends - i.e., what happened if all of your friends just up and hated you from this day on? What if they left you in the dust? All you would have is yourself, and that's the point. When the sh-t gets too thick, you're the only one you can rely on, because your friends aren't/can't be there for you.
Now, Wannabee, Elmo, I grew up in a really messed up family. My father died last year because of alcoholism. When something like that happens, there are only a handful of people around you, if any at all, than can understand what you're feeling. For the most part, you have to deal with it on your own. Your friends can't help you through something like that.
Also, a group of friends that follows eachother around like sheep isn't a group of friends, that's a damn cult. Just thought I'd add that.
BillieHunter
~**Hillbilly Hunter**~
That wasn't the point PJ...i wasn't looking to offend just make a point and i never meant one comment to someone else entirely to get this far off topic...sorry to those it inconvienenced...
Anyway...I just want to say I disagree Mesketet, in a way..I dont think you can rely on everyone but i do have probably two friends i could rely on when i really need them, no matter what...i do agree with you that you should be able to rely on yourself above all others, but sometimes when things go really bad or your really down its nice to have someone else you can rely on. I think these friends are far and few between, but they are there and im very grateful for the few I do have. Because well, this past month or so has really just sucked...everything that could go wrong has gone wrong...but the friends i have that i can rely on were there for me...and it helps to have friends like that in my life. I don't know what I would do without them. Even if your friends dont understand something you are going through, i think they can still help. Just by sticking by you and being your friend. They don't have to understand what you feel, just understand that your hurt and need a friend. And that in my opinion is someone you can rely on.
However...i 100% agree with your cult thing...haha
Anyway...I just want to say I disagree Mesketet, in a way..I dont think you can rely on everyone but i do have probably two friends i could rely on when i really need them, no matter what...i do agree with you that you should be able to rely on yourself above all others, but sometimes when things go really bad or your really down its nice to have someone else you can rely on. I think these friends are far and few between, but they are there and im very grateful for the few I do have. Because well, this past month or so has really just sucked...everything that could go wrong has gone wrong...but the friends i have that i can rely on were there for me...and it helps to have friends like that in my life. I don't know what I would do without them. Even if your friends dont understand something you are going through, i think they can still help. Just by sticking by you and being your friend. They don't have to understand what you feel, just understand that your hurt and need a friend. And that in my opinion is someone you can rely on.
However...i 100% agree with your cult thing...haha
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StuckinTraffic
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Schillaci
Scooby
Conversations evolve, I didn't derail it, I was just responding to whatever was posted.
How about you go find a dictionary and look up opinion.. as in a difference of.
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Or, you could study politics for 6 years. Once you've graduated, design a thousand point plan to take over the world. Once you succeed with your task and the world is ruled by your totalitarian government, then tell me to take my opinion and shove it...
Until then, I leave you with the words of Mr John Locke.."Don't tell me what I can't do!"
Ding, ding. Somebody has a little understanding.
Omfg, so funny.
doppelgänger2
Meh.
PJ, PJ, PJ. Where have you been the last... oh... Five years of your life? I already did all of that. Now bow before me or be eaten by the beasts at the Amphiteatrum Flavium. It's your choice.
Until then, I leave you with the words of my self, aka your RULER... "Oh shut up!"
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But regarding friends as a cult; that's my biggest fear with friends. Cause just like a real cult, it's impossible to leave and you will probably end up dead.
Edmund Blackadder
Scooby
Hmm, i claim shenanigans in your results.
Everyone here knows you are a Drama Queen.
I would put forth you 'fixed' the results to make you out to be calm, cause i know thats not the case.
Here
I did the test
That was answering truthfully.
Now here is what my score would have been if i wanted someone to believe i'm actually not....
All i had to do there was reply no to all but one.
Seriously why would you lie JC, you have crushed my entire world, i thought all the bile...i mean stuff you say was genuine...WHY WHHHHY.
Schillaci
Scooby
I didn't look at the test when I posted that link, but after JC posted his "results" I had a look...and I realised.
He can't truthfully answer questions 2 through to 5, he doesn't have any experience on the subject.
2)Your lover forgets your birthday. Do you accuse them of not loving you anymore?
3)You see the person you've been dating out on the town with a member of the opposite sex. Do you assume they are having a sexual relationship and confront them right then and there?
4)You are having passionate sex with your significant other and the condom breaks. Do you...
5)You have been dating someone for a while and you are eager to jump in the sack. They, however, are not making any moves. Do you...
Omfg, so owned.
BillieHunter
~**Hillbilly Hunter**~
However, the unfortunate thing is this is sometimes true. People fall in with a bad crowd, and wind up with serious problems or dead. It's terrible, but not everyone in the world is good, and even good people can fall in with bad crowds. And it should be a fear. Because if it is, that means you most likely won't end up surrounding yourself with these people.
Take your issues somewhere else people, I know I got involved to, but I'm willing to drop it if you'll GIVE IT UP! I think everyone is sick of it now. Who cares about some friggin test that doesn't mean a thing anyway? I wouldn't be calling other people drama queens when you two are so bent on it. So drop it already.
Cohen
Hellhound
elmo
Anyone here speak Whale?!
I'm sorry for what you went through. I'm not going to go into details about what happened to me because I don't need to. Lets just say that my past is not a pretty one either. I have to agree with you on some level. Not a lot of people know how you feel when you go through pain like that but there were people who were willing to stand by me and give me support despite that. They couldn't understand what I went through and they don't pretend to. They are there to help me through the aftermath by offering me their advice and support and encouraging me to carry on with my life. Just having them there by my side helps me even if it is only a little. I'm not saying that everyone deals with their problems in the same way. I'm not saying that I rely on my friends completely to help me through these things because there are some things that you have to deal with on your own. I'm just saying that it helps to have them by my side to talk to when I need them.
:stop: I have to say that we are not a cult! We don't follow each other around like sheep. We don't set trends and we don't all have the same beliefs. We enjoy each others' company and we give each other advice when it is needed. I don't think there is anything wrong with that! I have friends who I love very dearly... and I'm proud to call them my friends (even my family!).
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StuckinTraffic
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BillieHunter
I wasnt agreeign that all friends are cults...only the ones that DO follow each other like sheep...just to clear up what I meant...not sure if i meant the same as soem other people...
Mesektet Ra
a walking insurrection.
I wasn't naming anybody in particular. I was referring to PJ's point that friends are people that agree with whatever you say, never telling you the truth. Those people are not your friends. People you follow around like their a godsend or something, that, right there, is a damn cult.
And it's not nessecarily in bad crowds. It happens when people rely too much on eachother, regardless if they're a 'good' or 'bad' person. It's all about being assured enough in yourself to live a life without those people that makes the difference. Because, in the end, we're all we've got. That's reality for you, right there.
And it's not nessecarily in bad crowds. It happens when people rely too much on eachother, regardless if they're a 'good' or 'bad' person. It's all about being assured enough in yourself to live a life without those people that makes the difference. Because, in the end, we're all we've got. That's reality for you, right there.
elmo
Anyone here speak Whale?!
Perhaps those people who you are refering to are not called friends. My friends are not like the people you have described. I have "aquaintances" who treat me that way. My true friends don't always tell me what I want to hear. They don't follow me around like I'm a godsend, either. They tell me when I'm wrong and they support me when I'm right. They can be a pain in the ass sometimes because they get on their high-horse when I do something they believe is wrong. I enjoy their company because they are different from me not because they try to be the same. They are refered to as my "friends" because they are not blood relatives. I have to disagree with the whole "cult" theory here. I think some people are getting mixed up with the terminology.
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Frenchy Faith
huh huh... I totally agree... what you describe is how my friends are as well!
BillieHunter
~**Hillbilly Hunter**~
Sorry i didn't understand what you meant by the question either...i took it the same way Hero did...Hillbilly Hunter is the name of my horse, we call him Billie for short so I just kinda combined it as BillieHunter...
And I agreed with the "cult" thing at first...but I think i agree more with what elmo is saying, although i do feel a group of people can be a cult...cause well thats what a cult is, you gotta have people to have a cult, but cult members aren't friends. At least I wouldn't consider them friends. My friends are the same way the way you described, elmo, and thats why im friends with them...