Ok I only started this thread cause I wanted to blab about the movie and I didn't fancy putting spoiler tags on everything just to protect the intrest of people who hadn't seen it.
Okay one thing I heard from the critics is that the plot was way too thin. However, I think it actually was very deep in it's own way. If anything, it was too subtle, which can look the same as being weak if you're not perceptive.
Did anyone leave the movie thinking "Wow, there is a matrix within the matrix"? Cause I did. When Neo shows some evidence of having extra-normal ability OUTSIDE the matrix, I at first thought that he had gained some kind of connection with the machines. But wait a minute.. He doesn't have a radio built into his brain, how could he do that? The answer is: he couldn't. It's not physically possible to do what he did at the end of the movie, knocking those Sentinals down (however he did it). I'm thinking that the matrix is far more clever than we originally realized.
What's the ultimate prison? Answer: The prison you don't even know you are in.
Well, for 99% of the population, the matrix was a good enough prison, and most people didn't even realize it was one. However, what about the ones who got free? Is it possible that the 'architect' actually made TWO matrixes, one within the other? He allows one person to escape (Neo) and that person trains generations of freedom fighters afterwards who all think that they have tasted true freedom. But have they? Maybe their 'free' world is in fact, just another matrix, outside of the first one. With this environment in place, who would ever think of breaking out? All they are thinking of is breaking people into the second matrix, without even considering that it might be a matrix itself. Of course, this dual-matrix appraoch would have a flaw. Simply put: Once everyone had broken out, they go back to the same situation as if they only had one matrix. Perhaps this is why they need to 'reset' the system, eliminate Zion, and re-establish The matrix as the only reality for mankind, except for a small group of new 'rebels'.
THis definately fits the 'choices' model the architect was presenting to Neo. It seems that Neo exists as a release valve for human ambition and ingenuity. They simply channel humanity's escape efforts into another prison.
Of course, this theory allows for the existance of anyone you choose as the actuall jailers. It doesn't have to be machines. Morpheus has seen them harvesting humans as batteries etc etc, but has he really? Or maybe he didn't? Maybe it was just an illusion of the second matrix? I don't pretend to have any answers for this kind of stuff, but if we admit the possibility that there is a matrix outside of the matrix, it's anyone's guess as to what is outside that.
I also think that at the end of the movie, Neo realizes all this somehow, on an instinctual level. He is about to break the cycle, because he has begun to believe he can do extrordinary things in the 'real world'.
Damn! I give this movie a 9 out of ten. Maybe a ten out of ten, for making me think so much about it! lol
Okay one thing I heard from the critics is that the plot was way too thin. However, I think it actually was very deep in it's own way. If anything, it was too subtle, which can look the same as being weak if you're not perceptive.
Did anyone leave the movie thinking "Wow, there is a matrix within the matrix"? Cause I did. When Neo shows some evidence of having extra-normal ability OUTSIDE the matrix, I at first thought that he had gained some kind of connection with the machines. But wait a minute.. He doesn't have a radio built into his brain, how could he do that? The answer is: he couldn't. It's not physically possible to do what he did at the end of the movie, knocking those Sentinals down (however he did it). I'm thinking that the matrix is far more clever than we originally realized.
What's the ultimate prison? Answer: The prison you don't even know you are in.
Well, for 99% of the population, the matrix was a good enough prison, and most people didn't even realize it was one. However, what about the ones who got free? Is it possible that the 'architect' actually made TWO matrixes, one within the other? He allows one person to escape (Neo) and that person trains generations of freedom fighters afterwards who all think that they have tasted true freedom. But have they? Maybe their 'free' world is in fact, just another matrix, outside of the first one. With this environment in place, who would ever think of breaking out? All they are thinking of is breaking people into the second matrix, without even considering that it might be a matrix itself. Of course, this dual-matrix appraoch would have a flaw. Simply put: Once everyone had broken out, they go back to the same situation as if they only had one matrix. Perhaps this is why they need to 'reset' the system, eliminate Zion, and re-establish The matrix as the only reality for mankind, except for a small group of new 'rebels'.
THis definately fits the 'choices' model the architect was presenting to Neo. It seems that Neo exists as a release valve for human ambition and ingenuity. They simply channel humanity's escape efforts into another prison.
Of course, this theory allows for the existance of anyone you choose as the actuall jailers. It doesn't have to be machines. Morpheus has seen them harvesting humans as batteries etc etc, but has he really? Or maybe he didn't? Maybe it was just an illusion of the second matrix? I don't pretend to have any answers for this kind of stuff, but if we admit the possibility that there is a matrix outside of the matrix, it's anyone's guess as to what is outside that.
I also think that at the end of the movie, Neo realizes all this somehow, on an instinctual level. He is about to break the cycle, because he has begun to believe he can do extrordinary things in the 'real world'.
Damn! I give this movie a 9 out of ten. Maybe a ten out of ten, for making me think so much about it! lol