"The Meaning of the First Evil"

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If there is one nemesis that has baffled fans of "BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER" for the past six to seven years, it would have to be the First Evil. This entity first made its appearance in the Season Three episode, (3.10) "Amends" and became Buffy Summer's main nemesis in Season Seven, the last season of the series.

In a nutshell, the First Evil is an incorporeal entity that manifested from all evil in existence. It can assume the form of any person who has died, including vampires and dead persons who have been resurrected. Because of this, it has appeared in various forms over the course of the series depending on who it is appearing to as a method of manipulation. For this reason, the First has appeared as Buffy Summers to the Slayer and her allies. But it has also assumed the forms of Warren Mears, Spike, and Jonathan Levinson on multiple occasions, and a variety of other forms less frequently. It was also able to merge with a corporeal individual, as it had done with a serial killer named Caleb, providing the latter with immense strength. The First Evil's only real weakness was that it was non-corporeal, and could not do real physical damage. However, it was an expert at psychological manipulation, and could act through its servants such as the Bringers, Turok-Han, Caleb or whomever it could manage to control.

As I had stated earlier, the First Evil made its debut on "BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER" in the episode, "Amends". It tried to drive Angel into killing Buffy by appearing to him as Jenny Calendar and other people had murdered as a souless vampire. The First Evil told Angel that it was responsible for his return from "Hell" and that he could end his sufferings by turning evil again. Whether or not this is true is unknown; in any event, it did not mind when Angel chose to kill himself, via a sunrise instead. After Buffy's confrontation with the First Evil, she managed to stop Angel from committing suicide.

Using Buffy's second resurrection in the Season 6 premiere - (6.01) "Bargaining, Part I" as an excuse, the First Evil returned in full force in Season Seven in an attempt to eliminate the Slayer line permanently. Using servants such as the defrocked serial killer Caleb and the Harbingers of Death (or Bringers), the First Evil not only brought about the deaths of many Potential Slayers and Watchers, it also destroyed the Watcher's Council (no loss there) and nearly came close to killing Buffy, Faith, the Scoobies and Spike. It used both Andrew Wells and Spike to raise the Turok-Han (a race of ancient powerful vampires stronger and fiercer than the regular vampires). It manipulated Spike using an old English folk song - "Early One Morning" - into killing again, hoping his actions would attract Buffy' attentions. According to sources from the "All Things Philosophical on "˜Buffy the Vampire Slayer' and "˜Angel the Series'" and "Buffyverse Wiki" sites, the First Evil wanted to seize the opportunity to upset the balance between good and evil whenever the Slayer line was disrupted. It tried to manipulate Angel into committing suicide in "Amends" about a year-and-a-half following Buffy's brief death and resuscitation in (1.12) "Prophecy Girl". And about a year following Buffy's resurrection in "Bargaining", it made its move to destroy the Slayer line and upset the moral balance permanently.

Many fans did not like the First Evil as Buffy's main antagonist in Season Seven. From what I could gather from many message boards, forums and blogs, they seemed confused about the First Evil's intentions or what it represented. Nor did they seemed impressed that it was one Big Bad that Buffy could not destroy in a physical way. Some fans even accused "BUFFY" creator Joss Whedon of writing himself into a corner with the creation of the First Evil. Personally, I disagree. I do not feel that Whedon had written himself into a corner by bringing the First Evil back in Season Seven.
It is easier to identify a nemesis that solid enough for someone "“ namely Buffy - to physically kill or fight. Nemesis like the Master, Angelus, Mayor Wilkins, Adam, Glory, Warren Mears or even Willow Rosenberg. But the First Evil was a different matter. It symbolized a continuation of the theme from Season 6 - namely "You are your own worst enemy". In other words, I believe that the First Evil symbolized the spirit of Evil that existed in everyone - from Buffy to some minor demon minion or some housewife.

I must be one of the few fans who actually enjoyed Season Seven. But even I have one or two issues about that particular season that did not sit right with me. One of those issues happened to be the appearance of a supernatural being called Beljoxa's Eye in (7.11) "Showtime". Rupert Giles and Anya Jenkins visited the being to learn everything they could about the First Evil. Instead of fulfilling their wishes, the Beljoxa's Eye told them that that the First Evil cannot be destroyed and that it exists now because of a disruption in the Slayer's line, which was in fact, caused by the Slayer. Both Giles and Anya concluded that Buffy's second resurrection brought about the return of the First Evil.

This did not make sense to me. One, I found it hard to believe that the First Evil existed because of Buffy's resurrection. It had already existed before the events of "Bargaining". In fact, I believe that it had already existed before "Amends". Why? For me, the First Evil was . . . or is the spirit of evil, itself. It was all of the negative thoughts, emotions and impulses that reside within all living beings. And the late Joyce Summers hinted this during Buffy's dream in (7.12) "Bring On the Night":

BUFFY: Something evil is coming.

JOYCE: Buffy, evil isn't coming, it's already here. Evil is always here. Don't you know? It's everywhere.

BUFFY: And I have to stop it.

JOYCE: How are you gonna do that?

BUFFY: I-I don't know yet, but"”

JOYCE: Buffy, no matter what your friends expect of you, evil is a part of us. All of us. It's natural. And no one can stop that. No one can stop nature, not even"”

Joyce would eventually be proven right in (7.22) "Chosen, the series finale. When Buffy, Spike, Faith, the Scoobies, Robin Wood, Dawn and the Potentials battled the First Evil's army of Turok-Han vampires inside the Hellmouth; all they did "“ especially Spike "“ was ruin the First Evil's plans to upset the balance of good and evil in the mortal world. In my personal opinion, that imbalance already existed before Buffy's first death in "Prophecy Girl". It never made any sense to me that a balance between good and evil had been maintained by the presence of one Slayer against a slew of vampires, demons and other forms supernatural evil for centuries. I suspect that the First Evil saw the presence of more than one Slayer and a vampire with a soul as a threat to that imbalance. Like many others, the First Evil believed that only one Slayer should exist. And as I had earlier stated, I found this belief rather ridiculous and I am glad that Buffy proved that it did not have to be so at the end of the series.

Would the Watcher's Council or the African shamans who had first created the Slayer line, approve of the idea of more than one Slayer in existence? I rather doubt it. I suspect that they may have feared the idea of dealing with more than one Slayer . . . or even more than two. I suspect that controlling the Slayer or wielding her as a weapon mattered more to the shamans and the Watcher's Council than the idea of more than one warrior against the forces of Evil. And I would not be surprised if the First Evil "“ or their own inner darkness "“ prevented them from considering this possibility. And I believe that is what the First Evil represented in Buffy's story "“ the inner darkness that she, her sisters and friends all harbored within themselves . . . and which they had to learn to acknowledge. Buffy's conversation with the vampire sired by Spike "“ Holden Webster "“ forced her to face and acknowledge her own inner darkness. By (7.15) "Get It Done", she also realized that her two most powerful allies "“ Willow and Spike "“ needed to face their own darkness:

BUFFY: The First isn't impressed. It already knows us. It knows what we can do, and it's laughing. You want to surprise the enemy? Surprise yourselves. Force yourself to do what can't be done, or else we are not an army - we're just a bunch of girls waiting to be picked off and buried. (Spike stands and walks toward the door) Where are you going?

SPIKE: Out. Since I'm neither a girl, nor waiting. All this speechifying doesn't really apply to me, does it? (walks away)

BUFFY: (calls after him) Fine. Take a cell phone. That way, if I need someone to get weepy or whaled on, I can call you.

SPIKE: (turns to Buffy) If you've got something to say -

BUFFY: Just said it. You keep holding back, you might as well walk out that door.

SPIKE: Holding back? You're blind. I've been here, right in it - fighting, scrapping...

BUFFY: Since you got your soul back?

SPIKE: Well, as a matter of fact, I haven't quite been relishing the kill the way I used to.

BUFFY: You were a better fighter then.

SPIKE; I did this for you. The soul, the changes - it's what you wanted.

BUFFY: What I want is the Spike that's dangerous. The Spike that tried to kill me when
we met.

SPIKE (angrily): Oh, you don't know how close you are to bringing him out.

BUFFY: I'm nowhere near him.

The above conversation was one of the most interesting I have ever come across during the series' seven season run. A vampire Slayer "“ someone considered the epitome of good and light "“ encouraging a former killer to face that darkness that made him such an effective killer. She even gave a similar speech to Willow, who as "Darth Willow" nearly came close to destroying the world in the Season Six finale, (6.22) "Grave". Many fans had thought Buffy may have lost her mind. I understood what Buffy was trying to say. During Season Seven, Spike and Willow had spent most of it wallowing in guilt over certain acts they had committed in Season Six. I could probably say the same about Buffy. Like Spike and Willow, she learned to face her past treatment of the blond vampire in the episode, (7.08) "Conversations with Dead People". But duties and the re-emergence of the First Evil made her realize that she had no time to wallow in her guilt. Her rants against Spike and Willow in "Get It Done" expressed her own impatience with their guilt and tendencies to hold themselves back in fear of releasing the inner darkness that made them fearsome. She forced both the vampire and the red-haired witch to realize that they can only be fully effective by learning to face their inner darkness . . . and controlling it. By facing the many aspects of their nature, could Spike and Willow learn to develop as individuals.

The First Evil's activities forced Buffy to develop in another path. She had to start learning how to evolve beyond her inferiority/superiority complex and learn to connect with others . . . when the situation demanded. Thanks to her former Watcher, Rupert Giles, she tried to use this aloofness to become an authority figure to the many Potential Slayers that had arrived on her doorstep. She also had to learn not to allow her insecurities and fear (traits that originated from the negativity within) of being alone to give others like her former Watcher Rupert Giles and even her friends a chance to dictate her actions and behavior. Like Spike and Willow, she had to learn to become her own person. She had to stop being afraid to connect with others and at the same time, allowing them to dictate her behavior.

In the end, I found Season Seven to be very complex and mature on a level that may have eluded certain viewers. Before the season first began, Whedon and Mutant Enemy had announced that the series would take viewers back to how it used to be during the earlier seasons. And perhaps that was what they had been looking forward to . . . recapturing the past. Season Seven did that . . . but with a twist. The season reminded viewers that no one can recapture the past. Not really. In a way, Spike and Willow tried recapture their former selves "“ the Victorian mild-mannered William and the shy computer geek. And Buffy, at Giles' orders, tried to enforce her authority upon the Potential Slayers as the Watchers' Council had done the same in the past. But they could not recapture the past. They wanted Whedon to take this season back to what BUFFY used to be, failing to realize that you cannot recapture the past. Buffy and the Scoobies could not go back to being what they used to be.

Not only did their conflict with the First Evil . . . namely their own inner demons made Buffy and the others realize they could not recapture their past. They may have learned something else "“ battling the First Evil was like battling a part of them. In other words, they had been battling their worst enemy "“ namely themselves. And in doing so, continued the theme that had been prevalent throughout the series' run . . . growing up.
 
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This is amazing.
Er third paragraph. Buffy had nothing to do with Angel not killing himself, her arguements were failing. The reason Angel did not kill himself was because of the snow storm.
 
This did not make sense to me. One, I found it hard to believe that the First Evil existed because of Buffy's resurrection. It had already existed before the events of "Bargaining". In fact, I believe that it had already existed before "Amends". Why? For me, the First Evil was . . . or is the spirit of evil, itself. It was all of the negative thoughts, emotions and impulses that reside within all living beings.

Neither the Beljoxa's Eye or anyone else ever claimed that the First existed because of Buffy's resurrection. It existed long before that and before it appeared in Amends. It's pretty well established that it has always existed and always will.

BELJOXA'S EYE
It cannot be fought, it cannot be killed. The First Evil has been and always will be. Since before the universe was born, long after there is nothing else, it will go on.

GILES
If The First has been around for all time, then why hasn't it attempted something like this before? Why now?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The opportunity has only recently presented itself.

GILES
Opportunity?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The mystical forces surrounding the chosen line have become irrevocably altered, become unstable, vulnerable.

ANYA
Something The First did?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The First Evil did not cause the disruption, only seized upon it to extinguish the lives of the chosen forever.

Like many others, the First Evil believed that only one Slayer should exist.

I'm pretty sure the First didn't want any Slayer to exist. If that was the case, all it would of had to have done is kill either Buffy or Faith. Not both of them along with every girl in the world who had the potential of one day becoming a Slayer. It wanted the entire line destroyed forever leaving no balance between good and evil. Maybe it's all the cold medicine and I read your post wrong, but if you're saying the First wanted to restore the balance by bringing back the "one Slayer for each generation" rule, that's clearly not the case. The First wanted no Slayer ever again so that evil could reign freely on Earth.
 
I always saw similarities between the First Evil and the norse god, Loki. the god of evil who betrayed his fellow gods and murdered Baldar. As punishment, he was chained to a huge stone ti a vast underground chamber, guarded by an army of trolls. The prophecy was that if he would ever escape, he would release Fenris, the wolf, and the Midgard Serpent. Together with the troll army, in a great war, they would bring about the Ragnarok, resulting in the deaths of the gods, all of mankind, and the very universe itself.

I was thinking that the final battle, first mentioned in the Fray series, would make a great parallel to what Lindsey described as THE apocalypse, what all of the other apocalypses have been leading up to. If the First Evil (Loki) and Wolfram & Hart (Fenris), and some so far unmentioned serpent (maybe Willow's snake lady teacher or Twilight), formed an alliance, then all of the elements would be in place. Angel and Dark Willow would be somehow recruited by the dark forces, and the Ragnarok, the apocalypse that Lindsey was referring to, would take place.

But maybe it's just my imagination combined with a few coincidences.
 
I don't have enough good things to say about this post. Kudos! Did you write this yourself? Everyone who doesn't understand the season really should read this post. I too really enjoy this season. In fact, I appreciate it more each time I re-watch it. We can be in the minority together 🙂

I've heard varying ideas on who made that snow fall in "Amends." I believe it was the PTB, in the ineterst of preventing Angel from killing himself with the sun, since he was such an important player to them. What do you all think? It obviously wasn't The First (that would have been counter-productive). A have heard a few fans mention they think it was a higher power - such as God - but I don't see such evidence for this idea, consitering the massive athiestic nature of the Buffyverse. Still, I won't rule it out as a possibility.

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I always saw similarities between the First Evil and the norse god, Loki. the god of evil who betrayed his fellow gods and murdered Baldar. As punishment, he was chained to a huge stone ti a vast underground chamber, guarded by an army of trolls. The prophecy was that if he would ever escape, he would release Fenris, the wolf, and the Midgard Serpent. Together with the troll army, in a great war, they would bring about the Ragnarok, resulting in the deaths of the gods, all of mankind, and the very universe itself.

I was thinking that the final battle, first mentioned in the Fray series, would make a great parallel to what Lindsey described as THE apocalypse, what all of the other apocalypses have been leading up to. If the First Evil (Loki) and Wolfram & Hart (Fenris), and some so far unmentioned serpent (maybe Willow's snake lady teacher or Twilight), formed an alliance, then all of the elements would be in place. Angel and Dark Willow would be somehow recruited by the dark forces, and the Ragnarok, the apocalypse that Lindsey was referring to, would take place.

But maybe it's just my imagination combined with a few coincidences.

Last year, a couple friends of mine put on a mini-musical for their Drama honors project called Ragnarok. It was a riot. Loki and Fenris battled it out while singing.
 
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Last year, a couple friends of mine put on a mini-musical for their Drama honors project called Ragnarok. It was a riot. Loki and Fenris battled it out while singing.

And a little more ammunition for my theory...Buffy Season 9 Issue 29. Twilight on the cover looks particularly serpentine, plus the last page of the issue...(you'll have to read it for yourself)

Ragnarok might not be as far off target as I at first thought...
 
Er third paragraph. Buffy had nothing to do with Angel not killing himself, her arguements were failing. The reason Angel did not kill himself was because of the snow storm.

My mistake. I only saw that episode once. Which goes to show how I felt about it.
 
Neither the Beljoxa's Eye or anyone else ever claimed that the First existed because of Buffy's resurrection. It existed long before that and before it appeared in Amends. It's pretty well established that it has always existed and always will.

BELJOXA'S EYE
It cannot be fought, it cannot be killed. The First Evil has been and always will be. Since before the universe was born, long after there is nothing else, it will go on.

GILES
If The First has been around for all time, then why hasn't it attempted something like this before? Why now?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The opportunity has only recently presented itself.

GILES
Opportunity?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The mystical forces surrounding the chosen line have become irrevocably altered, become unstable, vulnerable.

ANYA
Something The First did?

BELJOXA'S EYE
The First Evil did not cause the disruption, only seized upon it to extinguish the lives of the chosen forever.



I'm pretty sure the First didn't want any Slayer to exist. If that was the case, all it would of had to have done is kill either Buffy or Faith. Not both of them along with every girl in the world who had the potential of one day becoming a Slayer. It wanted the entire line destroyed forever leaving no balance between good and evil. Maybe it's all the cold medicine and I read your post wrong, but if you're saying the First wanted to restore the balance by bringing back the "one Slayer for each generation" rule, that's clearly not the case. The First wanted no Slayer ever again so that evil could reign freely on Earth.

I agree with everything you've said. The First Evil has existed long before it first appeared in Season 3. As it says right in this information that I found.

The First Evil is the absolute source and embodiment of all that is evil. Older than demons, Old Ones, and even gods who are themselves older than humans, it is older than the written word and transcends all realities and dimensions; it is older than any other being and is even the very first entity ever to have existed. It is said that the First lurked in the darkness long before the universe was even created and shall remain long after the universe ends. Few have heard of it and even fewer believe in its existence. The entity cannot affect the world on a physical level. Its power lies in its ability to deceive, torment and manipulate others. It can take the form of any person who has died.

The First has a deep understanding of human nature since it can copy the thoughts and mannerisms of all human beings who have died. It uses the knowledge to drive others to madness and such acts as murder and suicide. Since she had died before, the First Evil often appeared as Buffy in the last season of the series. The First has appeared in its true form as an enormous silvery demon with large horns and long, talon-shaped fingers. For technical purposes, The First Evil is neither male, female, demon, nor god; it is a power. During Christmas 1998, The First appeared in Sunnydale. It tried to drive the vampire Angel into killing Buffy by appearing to him as Daniel, Margaret, Travis and Jenny Calendar, people Angelus had murdered. It told Angel that it was responsible for his return from Hell and that he could end his sufferings by turning evil again. It did not mind when Angel chose to die in a sunrise instead; either plan would have been a massive blow to the forces of good, eliminating either the Slayer or the best (and, at the time, only) candidate for the Shanshu Prophecy.

After Buffy's confrontation with the First, Buffy attempted to stop Angel from committing suicide. While Buffy was attempting to talk Angel into leaving the hilltop, a rare snowfall occurred, with the sun remaining unseen. Buffy's second resurrection caused an irregularity in the Slayer line. The First tried to use this glitch to eliminate the Slayers forever. The First Evil had the vicious preacher Caleb command the Harbingers of Death, as they sought and hunted down the Chosen line, young girls with the potential to become slayers. Buffy had visions of these murders in her sleep. Several characters and creatures referenced the First in the first few episodes of season 7. Halfrek told Anyanka "Something's rising. Something older than the Old Ones, and everybody's tail is twitching,". It tormented the vampire Spike after he had returned from Africa with his soul.

The First appeared to Spike in such guises as Warren Mears, Glorificus, Adam, Mayor Richard Wilkins III, Drusilla, The Master and Buffy. After Spike accidentally stabs a human, the First appeared in the form of a nice, more forgiving Buffy to continue to taunt him. The First also appeared to Andrew Wells in Mexico as Warren Mears, instructing him to buy an ancient knife. The nightmares it brought to Andrew and Jonathan Levinson drove them back to Sunnydale. The First Evil began using a traditional English folk song ("Early One Morning") as a trigger to drive Spike to sire again. It also very likely masqueraded as Joyce Summers to her younger daughter, Dawn, and warned her that in the end, Buffy would not choose her. The First appeared to Willow as Cassie Newton, claiming to be a messenger from her dead lover Tara, but went too far as it asked Willow to commit suicide. It also appeared to troubled nerd Andrew Wells as his dead friend Warren, and drove him into killing their friend Jonathan on the Seal of Danzalthar, right above the Hellmouth. The sacrifice yielded too little blood because it turned out Jonathan was anemic, as well as small-statured.

The First then sent the Bringers to kill the potential slayer Nora and her watcher Robson in London, England. It also goaded Spike into battling Buffy so one of them would be killed. The First Evil then appeared to Andrew as both Warren and Jonathan. The First Evil appeared to Spike, as Spike himself, to trick him into killing Andrew, only to be foiled by Buffy again. It then sent some Harbingers to kidnap Spike from Buffy's house to bleed him to raise the first Turok-Han out of the Hellmouth. Meanwhile, the First's minion Caleb blew up The Watchers Council as they gathered. It also once manifested itself in such a way as to destroy an attempted spell by Willow, thus increasing her fear of using magic. Buffy later dreams of her late mother, and believes this is an appearance of The First.

In 2003, viewers saw the First Evil masquerade as Eve, a potential slayer previously killed by the Harbingers, to spy on Buffy and encourage the potentials to doubt Buffy’s leadership. The First Evil took a break after Buffy decapitated the Turok-Han and freed its hostage Spike. A few weeks later, The First again appeared to Andrew as Jonathan, instructing him to use a gun to kill the potential slayers but subsequently became angry with Andrew and Buffy's friends when Andrew wore a wire so they could record the First Evil. Continuing to monger fear among the Potential Slayers, the First Evil appeared to Chloe, taunting her to commit suicide before appearing to Buffy and the potentials as Chloe, making them feel partly responsible for Chloe’s death. The First Evil later summoned its head minion Caleb to Sunnydale where they set up base at the Shadow Valley Vineyards, where Buffy and the potentials were dealt a defeat at Caleb’s hands. Using the Harbingers, the First Evil had them excavate the mystic Slayer's Scythe from a rock while at the same time tricking slayer Faith into a trap. Then it masqueraded as the Mayor in order to throw Faith off-guard, telling her to be wary of Buffy. When Buffy later went to the vineyards and stole the Scythe, The First Evil instructed Caleb to let her go and informed Buffy that Faith and the potential slayers had just been killed in an explosion. Buffy rushed to their rescue and most of them survived.

After Buffy split the First's minion Caleb in half with the Scythe, the First Evil taunted her for being alone, which gave her an idea. Buffy asked Willow to use the essence of the Scythe to make every potential slayer a full Slayer and led a proactive strike on the Turok-Han army within the Hellmouth itself. The First taunted Buffy after she was stabbed through the abdomen, but she recovered. An amulet, given to Buffy by Angel, that Spike was wearing created beams of sunlight which wiped out every Turok-Han and destroyed the Hellmouth. The First is one of the few villains in the series that were never killed off. As an incorporeal entity, the First Evil cannot be physically harmed. Buffy makes it clear that evil is eternal and omnipresent. The foiling of its plans are to it but a minor setback since it "has an eternity to act." While the destruction of Sunnydale, the Hellmouth, and the Watchers' Council HQ is mentioned multiple times by the Angel Investigations team in Angel Season Five, the First itself is not mentioned as having any involvement.
 
My answer to this that the 'First' means exactly what they say they were the 'First'. If they want to take the rap for starting all the evil etc then let them. What they forgot was that 'Good' ultimately wins over 'Evil'.
 
I always saw similarities between the First Evil and the norse god, Loki. the god of evil who betrayed his fellow gods and murdered Baldar. As punishment, he was chained to a huge stone ti a vast underground chamber, guarded by an army of trolls. The prophecy was that if he would ever escape, he would release Fenris, the wolf, and the Midgard Serpent. Together with the troll army, in a great war, they would bring about the Ragnarok, resulting in the deaths of the gods, all of mankind, and the very universe itself.

I was thinking that the final battle, first mentioned in the Fray series, would make a great parallel to what Lindsey described as THE apocalypse, what all of the other apocalypses have been leading up to. If the First Evil (Loki) and Wolfram & Hart (Fenris), and some so far unmentioned serpent (maybe Willow's snake lady teacher or Twilight), formed an alliance, then all of the elements would be in place. Angel and Dark Willow would be somehow recruited by the dark forces, and the Ragnarok, the apocalypse that Lindsey was referring to, would take place.

But maybe it's just my imagination combined with a few coincidences.

Yes, it definitely is. As a Norse Pagan, I can tell you that you are viewing this through a Christian revalationary lense, whether you are doing so consciously or not. The god Loki is not a god of "evil" (a concept foreign in the way you think of it from Norse myth). He is a god of treachery and fire, but not a paralell for Satan. He hurts the other Gods not for power, like The First, but because he loves chaos, and to point out their flaws (and he does so not with malice but with a strong sense of irony). Loki, while he fights on the side of the Jotun, is a tragic and torn figure at the Ragnarok, not a prime mover for the Jotun (which by the way are not labeled as "evil"). If any character on Buffy resembles Loki, it is Ethan Rayne, or, from a different perspective (focusing on the Blood Brother relationship between Loki and Odhinn) Faith, not The First. There is no real analogy in Norse myth for The First (evil was never personified). The First resembles A.) The Christian Devil, especially the hominin American Christian temptor-devil and B.) Nyarlathotep, the Avatar of Chaos, from H.P. Lovecraft's Cthulu/Azathoth mythos.

If I had to guess, I'll bet it is the second, and that there is an equivalent for Azathoth that may show up at some point (certainly it would work).
 
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white avenger
I bow to your obviously greater knowledge on this subject. In my defense, all that I had to base my theory on was college Lit classes in the dim past.
I'm pretty sure the First didn't want any Slayer to exist. If that was the case, all it would of had to have done is kill either Buffy or Faith. Not both of them along with every girl in the world who had the potential of one day becoming a Slayer.


There is someone who had expressed the theory that the First wanted the existence of one Slayer - someone powerful enough to use the scythe and be turned to evil.


He is a god of treachery and fire, but not a paralell for Satan. He hurts the other Gods not for power, like The First, but because he loves chaos, and to point out their flaws (and he does so not with malice but with a strong sense of irony).


Is Loki's desire for chaos a positive or negative trait? Because I don't think it should be either. For me, chaos can be either negative or positive. It depends upon the situation.
 
There is someone who had expressed the theory that the First wanted the existence of one Slayer - someone powerful enough to use the scythe and be turned to evil.





Is Loki's desire for chaos a positive or negative trait? Because I don't think it should be either. For me, chaos can be either negative or positive. It depends upon the situation.

Exactly. This is my point. Loki is not "evil", per se, he would probably tell you that he is "just misunderstood". The fact that he is often at odds with the Aesir does not make him evil, as he often saves them as well, bringing "good" to the world when THAT is what would be the most entertaining for him (and cause the most chaos).

Loki simply does not care about good and evil, and he never seeks the destruction of humanity the way the first does (although he does trick Hod into killing Baldr, often thought of as a god of man. But he does this to point out the arrogance of Odin and Frigga in trying to make him invulnerable, and to show that even Odin can't fight TRUE fate.
 
The First Evil is not always that easy to understand (so I've found) but I came to the conclussion that it was a great way to end Buffy. Instead of fighting the lesser and greater demons, vamipires, demi-gods and super humans she had to face up to where all evil began and not on her own. She and the others had to put on a united front to show that evil could never win no matter the cost and good will always prevail.
 
Buffy and co. could only battle the armies of the First, but not the First.
As the First is non-corporeal it could not touch anything, therefore nothing could touch it. What happened to it when Sunnydale came down on it? Nothing, as it is non-corporeal.
The forces of the First may have gone, yet the First is still there.
 
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