The Price...

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Angel's son returns as Pete Campbell from AMC's Mad Men?


Gunn is really grating on my nerves now, but I'm glad he went to Wesley for help.

still miss Lindsey, but love watching Gavin torment Lilah.

Dude is such a skeevey toadie.

Poor Groo, he's beginning to see the handwriting on the wall, Cordy is in with love Angel.
 
THE PRICE

The Good;
Very much an 'in the bottle episode'. Do like Fred drinking the snowglobe.

The Bad;
I think the Schlucks (or however you spell it) are deeply stupid, this doesn't really work for me

Best line:
Cordy; "We have a pool?"

Jeez, how did they get away with that?
The poor guy crumbling. Also Lilah's assertion that when a co-worker at WR&H pats you on the back you should check to feel for the knife.

Apocalypses: 5

Angel Cliches

Inverting the Hollywood cliche;

In disguise; 8

DB get's his shirt off; 12

Cordy's tatt; 10

Cheap Angel; 9

Fang Gang in bondage:
Cordy: 5
Angel: 11
Wes: 6
Gunn; 4
Lorne; 3
Fred; 2

Fang gang knocked out:
Cordy: 11
Angel: 14
Wes: 5
Doyle; 1
Gunn; 1
Lorne; 3

Kills:
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons
Angel; 39 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 10 vamps+ 11 demons.
Groo; 1 demon
Fred; 1 vamp
Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 2
Gunn; 1
Wes; 1

Alternate Fang Gang: schluck possessed Fred
Cordy: 2
Angel: 8
Fred; 1

Characters killed: the poor guy who get's dusted
46

Recurring characters killed;
8;

Total number of Angel Investigations: Wes makes his first moves towards returning back to the fold
6, Angel, Cordy, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo

Angel Investigations shot:
Angel: 11
Wes; 1

Packing heat;
Wes; 6
Doyle; 1
Angel; 2
Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:
Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde
Gunn; 1 Fred
Fred; 1 Gunn
Groo; 1Cordy

Kinky dinky:
Depending on how much you're into the Alien mythology you could interpret the Schlucks possessing Fred and the guy as metaphorical rape. CC describes Groo as 'sexy, well-built, go-all-night'

Captain Subtext;
Groo starting to pick up on CC's feelings for Angel.

Know the face, different character; 4

Parking garages;
5,

Guantanamo Bay;

Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

Questions and observations;
Drawing from Alien, Invasion of the Bodysnatchers and The Thing a great deal. Our first appearance of grown up Connor for good or ill. Love Lilah's tarantula, once asked Stephanie Romanov at a convention did she have a problem with that scene but she said no, they're 'furry like a kitten'? Groo's mother was called Pomegranate? 'Puppy-dog' is how CC describes the Groo and how she described Jesse in the first ep of Buffy. Gunn once again demonstrates his loathing of creepy-crawlies. 'Thaunmogenisis' is also the term used for the demon created when Buffy was ressurected. Love Lorne's hat. Note when Fred drinks from from the snowglobe she cuts her lip a little. Powerful scene between Gunn and Wes. First real signs of CC's greater power. Lorne uses the traditional Buffyverse line "Standing right here".
Marks out of 10; 5/10 not one of my favourites
 
Sigh...I really don't like this episode much, and it's mostly because of Cordelia. I found her flat refusal to help Wesley and declaration that Angel's feelings are the only ones she cares about to be frustrating. She'd been friends with Wesley almost as long as Angel, but of course by this point her character had been written to be All!About!Angel! Just because she's in love with him, no one else matters at all? The use of her powers to get rid of the sluks was a total deus ex machina as well.
 
Sigh...I really don't like this episode much, and it's mostly because of Cordelia. I found her flat refusal to help Wesley and declaration that Angel's feelings are the only ones she cares about to be frustrating. She'd been friends with Wesley almost as long as Angel, but of course by this point her character had been written to be All!About!Angel! Just because she's in love with him, no one else matters at all? The use of her powers to get rid of the sluks was a total deus ex machina as well.

I think you have to remember how much CC loved baby Connor and what he meant to her and the rest of AI. EVERYONE cuts themselves off from Wes, even Fred who eventually become romantically involved with him
 
I think you have to remember how much CC loved baby Connor and what he meant to her and the rest of AI. EVERYONE cuts themselves off from Wes, even Fred who eventually become romantically involved with him

True enough, and I totally understand Angel's inability to forgive him. I guess I'd just hoped that some of the rest of the gang might be more willing to reach out to him (based on her words to Cordelia and also to Gunn, it seems like Fred did have some thoughts about it). Wes made a terrible mistake, but he did have good intentions. And Cordelia, as Fred pointed out, was really the only one who could potentially talk to Angel about it and actually have him listen.
 
True enough, and I totally understand Angel's inability to forgive him. I guess I'd just hoped that some of the rest of the gang might be more willing to reach out to him (based on her words to Cordelia and also to Gunn, it seems like Fred did have some thoughts about it). Wes made a terrible mistake, but he did have good intentions. And Cordelia, as Fred pointed out, was really the only one who could potentially talk to Angel about it and actually have him listen.


True but CC and Wes were Angel's most longterm companions and he and CC were especially close. Thing is could they ever have trusted Wes again?
 
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