The problem with Buffy is...

Neither do I, that's not the point (and if that was RSN's point, I second your ??? at it, lol).
If you split someone's head with an axe, you're a boor. If you slice someone into Julienne and arrange the slices as little rose-shapes around the bloody skeleton, you're an artist. In both cases, of course, you are a murderer and have to get dealt with according to that.

I got your point before in that noble could mean something else. 😉 I took "noble" to mean good, like when Spike mimics Angel in "Tabula Rasa." "I must be a noble vampire. On a journey of redemption."
 
Yeah InsaneMystic explained it well, I didn't mean Noble as in good. he was artistic, & he never "hated" his victims, he killed as a form of art, he had no grudges against his victims. that makes him just pure evil & noble at the same time. he's even more evil than the first, the first is evil for the sake of being evil, Angelus enjoys being evil.

Zalos disagrees: I'm not sure you realize that some of the *problems* you brought up are not problems for everyone. For example, Dawn is far from being the most annoying character for me.

well, when 90% of the fans agree about "Dawn", its kinda universal.



The only plot hole I can recall from S7 was the oracle known as Beljoxa's Eye. Its comments to Giles and Anya about the Slayer line was very confusing.

the uber vamp was portrayed as one heck of a vamp, Buffy struggled just to kill it, & the dream sequence was meant to be "oh my gosh", but there is no "oh my gosh" to it & by the season finale they're just like any other vamp, or even weaker.

the other things aren't plot hole but more like it seems illogical for this to happen (or not happen). like the first not taking forms of Tara & Angel, & the whole Sunnydale school issure was blown out of proportion, all the cases that occured during the three years span for Buffy started happening on each corner, it got to the point of being funny. last but not least, what was the goal of the scoobies during the span of the entire season? find a way to kill the first! but they didn't, with all the buildup, they just killed the uber vamps, that didn't stop the first one bit, where did he (it) go?

& I know Amber Benson said she doesn't wanna be the first, but that doesn't make it make more sense. I also know that Whedon said the uber vamps thing was just to show unity or something like that, but its still a plot hole.
 
I just remembered something, I know I missed something in my original post, I just remembered it. why the hell does everybody speak English? including other dimensions. English is one of the newest languages (& created by humans here on Earth too). I know I would hate to see anyone speak anything other than English, but it bugs me everytime I see Pylean demons speak English, even though I 'think' it would bug me more to see everyone speak a generic language.
 
90% of fans hate Dawn? Don't you know that 80% of all statistics are made up? 😛

In any case...I love Dawn. So. 😀

mm...I'd say that some of your problems (like everyone speaking English, for example) are inconsistencies the entire fantasy/supernatural/sci-fi genre has always faced. Comes with the territory.
 
true, but some are exclusive to the Buffyverse, & happen moreso in Btvs, plot holes are overwhelming, how the hell is the world THAT oblivious to what's going on around them, how the hell did Buffy turn into a key, the flawed concept of "hero", Sunnydale moving suddenly into the middle of the desert, the whole timeline of AS4 & BS7, I could go on & on about the plot holes.
the thing is, once you are aware of plot holes, the experience gets diminished, & the more I rewatch both shows, the more plot holes appear kinda "in your face", some of them are downright ridiculous.

also, there's nothing like Buffy fighting vampires in the cemetary in S2-3, Buffy in a cemetary in latter seasons never looked the same, THAT i haven't figured out why yet.
 
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