The Sister Inclusion

[Randy Giles]

I don't mind that Dawn was introduced at all. She fits in perfectly with the rest of the gang, she's a good character. And Buffy obviously considers her more than just a magical force who was inserted into her life.

Perhaps when Dawn was created the timeline was altered too. Since in their memories Dawn was in all their previous adventures, maybe she WAS, and she just changed the line. OK I know that's NOT what they said happened but still.

I don't really feel that she cheapens the earlier seasons in any way, everything still happened pretty much, except Dawn was still there.

Wouldn't it have been interesting if everyone had gotten their memory back at some point and remembered life pre-Dawn?

 

[Nabila]

Yeah, could be, Hm.. I re-watched that resently. Ah, subject didn't really matter much to me (before you brought that up), so I dunno.
Well, if Summers blood is the key - than Dad counts. if Not.. gotta watch again..

Oh, wait a sec., if Slayer blood is the key - how about Faith? She's the full-time Slayer too. Noone 'fired' her. And if there's link of Potentials from one to another - they might be methaporically related to each other in some way.

Should we count Faith in?

Truly if you watch again, notice the monk never said anything about blood. He just said his brethren gave the key flesh and human form and sent it to Buffy because they know she would protect the key. I guess the blood thing originated from what Spike said about it's always the blood or something.

I can certainly live with your theory about Faith because I'm leaning more towards slayer blood. Hey, you're good at this! It's something I can mull over while I am watching S5 all over again from No Place Like home.:lmao:

Originally posted by Randy Giles
Wouldn't it have been interesting if everyone had gotten their memory back at some point and remembered life pre-Dawn?

Oh yes, and if that starts some conflict within the group then it would have been fantastic to see how it would be resolved. I mean I just felt that the origin of Dawn means there's more to her. It would have been a riveting story if it was explored more at least in S7. For me, that would have been more interesting than the whinning of the potentials.

 

[UlaGan]

Truly if you watch again, notice the monk never said anything about blood. He just said his brethren gave the key flesh and human form and sent it to Buffy because they know she would protect the key. I guess the blood thing originated from what Spike said about it's always the blood or something.

I can certainly live with your theory about Faith because I'm leaning more towards slayer blood. Hey, you're good at this! It's something I can mull over while I am watching S5 all over again from No Place Like home.:lmao:

As I already stated before - watching Buffy from begining picking up all lil hints and vague clues - is quite a fun!

 

[Lou]

Well, I had given the "magic dissolving" thing some thought toward the end of Season 5 when they're all huddled in the gas station thing. I started wondering if she might just fade away...or start to at some point. (I kind of wanted to see the "pretty light" everyone was talking about.)

But, when she didn't I reconciled it as this.....

She WAS a magical key. But the Monks turned her into a person. At which point, she was kept alive the same way we are. Heart, brain, lungs and all that was self-sustaining on it's own. The magic never seems to really lend itself to LIVING things that I could remember.

Dead cat comes back...only went away because Zombie mask thing was broken on Pat's face. That was magic and the way Giles reacted to the book wasn't like, "Oh, if we avoid the zombies a while they'll die again." Same with when they were talking about bringing Joyce back. The downfall wasn't that the magic wouldn't last.

Dawn DID turn a bit SELF destructive there for a while (and doesn't seem to be shaping up very quickly from what I've read of the comics). Does self destructing count as coming apart?

 

[Bangelxx]

I felt the same really
Dawn came too quickly...just when i was getting to know the characters....
although now it seems like she'd always been there!

 

[Nabila]

Originally posted by Dlou444
She WAS a magical key. But the Monks turned her into a person. At which point, she was kept alive the same way we are. Heart, brain, lungs and all that was self-sustaining on it's own. The magic never seems to really lend itself to LIVING things that I could remember

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That's a good one! It makes a lot of sense as well. After all, she was a thousand, even more, year old ball of energy. She may well have been the source of the powerful knowledge the monks possessed.

Originally posted by Dlou444
Dawn DID turn a bit SELF destructive there for a while (and doesn't seem to be shaping up very quickly from what I've read of the comics). Does self destructing count as coming apart?

There were times when I felt sorry for Dawn because, honestly, I thought she was really mentally unstable. Maybe just like Glory, she feels out of her element in this dimension. She is no longer the key that opens that door. But does that change what she is? All that energy locked up in fragile human form. This reminds me a bit of Illyria's dilemma. And yes I believe the self-destructive behaviour could be a sign she's falling apart. This is good I have more complications to chew on now. Thanks:biggrin: