Travelling Europe

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Hey Everyone!

A friend of mine and I are currently trying to plan out a 4 month trip to Europe for later this year, and since I know a lot of your guys were from European countries, I was hoping to get some advice.

We're planning on staying from November until February, and spending a lot of time in Scotland (my friend's mom recently moved there). Hoping to visit some of the following...

England
France
Scotland
Ireland
Italy
The Netherlands
Germany
Spain
Greece

And Norway/ Sweden IF there's time! Really we're just trying to hit as many places as possible while having a good time, So what I was hoping you guys could help me out with is getting a general idea for a gameplan.

What time (from November to February) would be a good time to visit _____? Bad time? What do you think would be worth seeing and not so much worth seeing? Any tips on how to get around or save some cash?

And for anyone who has done something like this before, do you have any tips? Are travel groups the way to go, or did you and a friend just go from hostel to hostel? How much did it end up costing you in the end?

Any info that I can get will be MUCH appreciated, after all who would know better than the locals? 🙂
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
wanna take a chunky, 'merican with propensity for vulgarities with you?
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CotA
I suggest Dunfermline, it's better than anywhere else in Scotland ;)
Yay, you're coming to Scotland! Whereabouts in Scotland will you be staying?
 
It's gonna be cold!

But then again, you might be more used to it than me 😉

Scotland is awesome...that's why they're stuck with me for a little longer 😛
 
Bluebird
Bluebird
you have to stay! We won't let you leave! (sw)
If your going to do London you will need more than just one day. Stay outside of London it will be cheaper. Maybe stay down in Brighton for a week and take a few days out to travel by train to London 🙂
 
Ireland is cold like all year around but particularly bad january where its extra wet and rainy so i would say maybe make the visit here in the november or december as you may get a few clear days to visit around, you could come to dublin first and then get around to the country pretty easy as its a small island but pretty beautiful and green 🙂
 
And Norway/ Sweden IF there's time!

Not Finland? Awww. Poor lurker.


save some cash?
That means no ice hotell. 🙁........................ 😉


But if you do get here I guess Stockholm or Gothenburg are the places to go. Not like we don´t have other things to experience. It depends on what you like. We do have a lot of nature. :tongue: But if you get to Stockholm you can always stay here for a few days. Af Chapman


Not traveled for years and years so no good tips in general to give.
 
CotA agrees: I suggest Dunfermline, it's better than anywhere else in Scotland 😉

Sure.............. : erm :


:tongue:
 
C
CotA
You know it to be true! :P
What luckystar said up there about Ireland is pretty true. You aren't going to get any spectacular weather but it will be less cold during November-December. Depending how long you are going stay things to see would include: Dublin (Alot of the historical cultural sites are there and are really interesting), the Ring of Kerry (some of the most beautiful landscapes you will ever see...ever.) The Cliffs of Moher, The Burren, maybe head out of Achill Island off the coast of Mayo or the Blasket Island off the coast of Kerry. Peig's hostel is on the Blasket (she is a pretty famous Irish figure in history) or you could visit the abandoned village on Achill (that's a little haunting to be honest, it was cleared out by the Famine) the beaches on both islands are absolutely beautiful though. If you go to Galway you should try and check out the Yeats heritage centre (if you are lit nut😉) same goes to Sligo for the same reason. Donegal is beautiful and the Giant's Casueway in Antrim is a sight to be seen. Maybe even check out the Tara in county Meath, home of the Irish High Kings. I don't know if you are into culturey things like that but at the very least get yourself to a good pub that has music and enjoy the session, if you come to Ireland you can't leave without doing that😉
 
Karol
Karol
ahhhh I wanna travel to Ireland >.<
In terms of travelling, Greece and Spain are lovely...however it was August/September last year when I was there and it was nice and warm...I did think of going to Tenerife early this year (just to get in on some more of the warm), but money and stuff meant that didn't happen.
 
If you're coming to the Netherlands, Amsterdam is a must.It's a nice city, with loads of shops, a bit of culture, some coffeeshops (as in Dutch coffeeshops. You know, where they sell funny smelling cigarettes. It is surprisingly difficult to get a nice coffee in Amsterdam. There's a Starbucks at Schiphol Airport. Which isn't really in Amsterdam) and loads of slightly too expensive souvenir shops. It's a shame, but if I were you, I'd avoid the Anne Frank house, unless you want to stand outside in the cold for about 5 hours. Go to Madame Toussauds instead. Or even better, the Amsterdam Dungeon. Also, you should come here during the couple of weeks we like to call summer, and since you're gonna do a winter tour, maybe round about christmas. But you might want to be in London or Paris then 😉 Either way, invest in a decent umbrella.
Staying in Amsterdam is not too difficult. There are youth hostels a plenty. Just check on stayokay.nl (or those dodgy sites like cheap hostels.com)
If you want to see more than only Amsterdam, you could also go to Utrecht, Rotterdam (former European Capital of Culture and an interesting bridge), Maastricht (where we live, and it's probably the prettiest town in the country, and definitely the oldest) Haarlem (which has the Frans Hals museum, a pretty church, some nice shops, a parc where all the emo and goth kids get into fights with the local chavs (though in winter it's not that cool), a river that comes from nowhere and goes to nowhere, me being born there and you can do it in about an afternoon, it's only 20 minutes by train from Amsterdam central train station), Leiden (the oldest university city in the Netherlands since the oldest doesn't exist anymore) and/or some of the towns along the west coast of the Ijselmeer (fromerly known as the Zuider Zee) like Hoorn (which is a cute little town and used to be majorly important during in the 17th and 18th century when Holland actually meant something, internationally speaking) or Enkhuizen (which has the Zuider Zee museum where you can see people in regional costume and old arts and crafts things and stuff like that.)
About travelling in Holland, the Dutch Rail company (NS) offers several passes for tourists. You can check out their website (Service for everyone who travels by train NS travellers) or just ask someone on any big train station (ie, Amsterdam or Schiphol. Ask them anywhere else and the chance is huge that they don't speak English, or have no idea what you're talking about)

Other places I can recommend are Brussels and Antwerp in Belgium. Seriously, if you have time, go there. Brussels is a strange city, but cool. And Antwerp, well, all I could think of walking around there was Ha! We (Haarlem and Amsterdam) stole your trade, traders and your painters when we more or less forced you to close the Schelde. But I think it was a nice city. There are quite a lot of Jews, which means seriously nice food. About Germany, all I can say is BERLIN, BERLIN, BERLIN. Those are the three places you have to go. Unless you want something typical German, then you might want to give Munich a try (for Munich, you have to be there in October though, during the Oktoberfesten) In France, Paris is a must see, and if you go way down south (say Nice, or Marseilles, or maybe Avignon) the weather might actually be pleasant. I've never been to Italy, but I guess Rome, Milan, Naples (Pompeii!) are cool places. Watch your backs (and pockets) in Naples and the Roman underground, though. Especially if you're tall, blond and tourist. Greece is cool. Delphi is incredibly pretty, as is the area on the east coast of the Peleponese. You should definitly go to Mycenae if you can. There's not much left, but there's a nice little museum with archeological stuff and the feeling of walking around in a more than 3000 year old city is strange, in an interesting kind of way. Athens is also amazing. There's so much to see there. If you want, I have loads of pictures 🙂
Finally, Spain. I haven't been to Madrid, but apparently it's a nice city, same with Valencia and Sevilla. Barcelona is cool, and when over 21, there are loads of possibilities to stay up all night (in summer, that is. In winter it may be a bit less exciting, but still exciting enough.) Unfortunately, your basic Spanish won't help you there since they either speak Catalan, or Spanish with a very dificult accent. There's a huge Hard Rock Cafe and in one of the Starbuckses works a very cute guy (a) If you like art, you have to go the the Picasso museum. And they have a kind of Oyster card system for public transport, but cheaper. If you go to Granada, you must go to the Alhambra. It is beautiful and from the highest tower you have a really good view on the city and the Sierra Nevada (that's the mountains. In winter, you even can go skiing there).

Well, I like travelling and I like Europe, hence this seriously long post. Moral of the story: You're gonna have a great time, and if you want to see all the good bits of this quaint little continent, you need at least a year 😉
 
Edinburgh at Christmas time is great with the German market but if you want proper Christmas then you should go to Germany for that period. Edinburgh is tourist central most of the time so timings does not really matter. But you are avoiding festival period which is not only chaos (as far as us poor people that still have to work there are concerned) but also accomodation prices go through the roof!

A friend of mine own's a ghost tour on The Royal Mile so you have to check that out City of the Dead
 
Tueuse de Vampires
Tueuse de Vampires
Germany at Christmas is not really awesome...believe me, I've been there for Christmas a total of 18 times I think (one time was Russia and THAT was awesome...although it was technically no Christmas cos they dont celebrate it)
i really would recommend going to Croatia, even if only for a while. Its an absolutely beautiful country. I would definately advised you to go to Dubrovnik and Opatija, just beautiful.
 
In December you could visit the Irish One Act Theatre Festival. No idea where it ist being held, as the venue changes every year, but you could get to see some great productions.

Well anyway. I don't think that November till February is a great time for visiting Europe, as it's rainy cold and windy, but I don't mind and I prefer it to the summer. Besides, when is a good time to visit any place. So my guide would be like this.

Start of by getting a plain into Dublin and tour Ireland for a wee while. For instance Cork and then move up to Belfast and get a ferry over to Scotland where you could get your Scotland journey delt with. Then go to London, maybe even Cardiff for a day and I would advise you to spend a couple of days in London. It's a great city with loads of stuff to see and discover. After that get a ferry to France, tour Paris, another great city and then get a Thalys train to Cologne. Maybe you want to make a stop in Aachen. Quite a nice old city. If you stop in Aachen, you should nip into Maastricht across the border, as it's an even more beautiful city, but you can tour both cities in an afternoon. Anyway Cologne is great for shopping and culture and stuff, so you should spend two days there. Maybe even go to Dusseldorf, but you can't see everything, so skip Dusseldorf. I've never been to Munich, but I'm told that the people from Munich are very polite and nice and stuff like that, so that should be nice. Berlin is definetly a must on a tour of Europe, Frankfurt could also be nice, or Hamburg. Though Hamburg I would do when doing a tour of the Netherlands, as its on one route going from east to west. So anywah, let's suggest you go to munich. You might want to go to Vienna too, as it's a beautiful city. Anyway, I'd advise you to spend christmas in Germany and visit German christmas markets and afterwards spend maybe New Year in Prague. You definetly should visit Prague, but beware of thieves and stuff like that. Krakow is also great, but then you should turn west and visit Hamburg, Amsterdam and follow paperdoll's guide to the Netherlands ^^

Also visit Bruge, Antwerp and Brussels if you can. Brussels is interesting for loads of reasons, especially the European Union being one and having nice fancy modern buildings. ^^ Afterwards go to Spain and Portugal maybe even. Well at least Madrid. Probably you should get then a plain from Madrid to Rome and visit Italy. I've only been once there and it was quite nice. The Toskana, but that was in Summer. Well by then your time will probably be up. You could try Switzerland and southern France or try for Croatia next, but the question is, where do you get a good flight back home. Anyway, enjoy your journey, I envy you, cause you get to see all of these cool places. ^^
 
A lot of it will depend on the weather, and what you'd like to see.

In Scotland,
Largs in Ayrshire is a really nice place. But not in bad weather.

Northern England
The Peak District, and/or The Lake District.

If you like well known haunted places, in South Devon go to Berry Pomeroy Castle, I've used that place a lot in my fan fiction, the character Blue is The Blue Lady, a ghost at the castle. Just type the name of the castle in the web address bar. Warning though, don't go in the small forests there, as some of the ghosts there have red eyes.
70 miles north north west is Tintagel, and the ruins of a castle; said to be King Arthurs Camelot. St. Nectan's Glen in Tintagel is said to be a very nice and beautiful place. It is also haunted and like Berry Pomeroy Castle, some aren't nice ghosts.

Twixt there and London or Dover is Stonehenge.

While in France, just to say you've been there, the north north eastern town of Nancy. You can join Giles' nancy tribe, just don't lose your memory.

While in England, if you have the time a week and the money, on a canal barge is memorable.
 
I second Faith, if you're in Edinburgh and happen to like old stone, go on a gost tour. I'm partial to one that takes you down into Mary Kings Close.

Travelling is such an individual thing, though, it's hard to give general advice. Do you like museums? Historical sites? Shopping? Nightclubs? What's your thing?

Oh, and if you decide to spend some days in Norway, let me know. Then I'll talk about what's to see up on this little piece of rock.
 
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