Twilight Series

[itsxpaperdoll]

I just want to point out something more or less irrelevant but still fun: You know how they call the Twilight genre on a major Dutch books-site? "Bloody Chick-lit". I think it's fitting 😉

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Erm, heres what bothers me.
You've not read the books nor seen the film yet you have an opinion on it.

Fact of the matter is that Vampires are not real so Meyers can, if she chooses, make up anything she likes in her fictional world.

I'm not a fan but you never know, you might like it if you give it a go.

There are many stories involving Vampires that have taken elements previously seen and changed it or expanded on them.

I think what she has chosen is silly, but I don't hold it against her that she tried to be different.

I know that, and I absolutely realise that I don't have a right to say anything about it because I haven't read the books. I'm therefore also trying to refrain as much as possible from comments about the content or the writing style or whatever of the books.
I have read some interviews with Meyer, though, and therefore I think I can say something about why I dislike her attitude. From comments she's made (such as the one quoted a few pages back) it shows that she basically started writing her books without having a clue about vampires, without actually especially liking the vampire-lore or any other type of folklore for that matter. Sure, vampires don't exist, but the thing is, she didn't really change or add bits or wanted to be different, but she had apparently no clue what it was she was being 'different' from and she just completely reinvented them without showing any interest in or respect for or knowledge of an easy to access (through the miracles of google) and beloved by many myth.

Of course, it is not a capital crime, and not a reason to hate the books, it is a reason to dislike the woman who wrote them and since I'm a simple person, a reason to read other books instead that are written in a nice writing style, with a normal amount of adjectives, and without sparkling vampires.

Ohh and Itsexy, I dislike you a little bit for making me even come close to defending that drivel!

Sorry! Cookie?:nibble6:

 

[Blondie Bear]

John Humphreys, a british journalist and and a very respected man went on a TV show called 'I've never watched Star Wars', a show where people do 5 things they've never done before, and he was given The Da Vinci Code.
"He'd read enough ABOUT them, talked to people who have read them, and seen enough excerpts of his crappy writing to know I wouldn't like it."
BUT when he actually sat down and read it, while he still said that the writing was appalling, the story was fun and he enjoyed it - a sentiment I don't agree with BUT the fact is, even though he was sure he would hate it, he was surprised to find he didn't.

Point is don't judge a book until you've read it...or something similar.

I firmly believe that there are some things you don't have to try to know you won't like them. I know I wouldn't like skydiving because I'm phobic of falling. I knew at the first whiff of the wine I had last night that I wouldn't like it. And I know enough about these books to know I wouldn't like them. If I was just going, "Ew, teenage vampires that sparkle," and that was the extent of my knowledge, then I could see being all "read them, you dork." BUT, as I said, I've done my research. I even read the first couple of pages of the leaked New Moon or whatever, and COULD NOT get further than that because the writing was so bad. Between the bad writing, the weak main female character, and the subversive Mormon message, I am absolutely certain that I would spend every minute I could force myself to spend on those books yelling at them. And then Mr. Bear would be forced to burn them just to stop the rage and screaming.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Twilight is an ok series, its a good concept that just wasnt written to its full potential.

Im fine with what she did with the vampires since its always ncie to see new original takes on them.

But the charecters just dont do that much for me. Specifically Bella. I want to like her but after being used to "strong, independant" female charecters, Bella just frustrates me with her whining about wanting to become a vampire and how she constantly has to blame herself and would die if something happened to Edward (which is also why Edward annoys me with his wanting to kill himself if something happened to her). Not to mention her insane logic about marriage and being turned into a vampire, oh and how she basically shuns all of her non vampire friends because they just dont seem that interesting to her since they arent Vampires.

But I love Cullens pretty much espically Alice and Emmett.

 

[Joan the Vampire Slayer]

Ariam,

If Edward really loved Bella as much as he claimed, he would have left her for good and stopped putting her life in danger.

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I firmly believe that there are some things you don't have to try to know you won't like them. I know I wouldn't like skydiving because I'm phobic of falling. I knew at the first whiff of the wine I had last night that I wouldn't like it. And I know enough about these books to know I wouldn't like them. If I was just going, "Ew, teenage vampires that sparkle," and that was the extent of my knowledge, then I could see being all "read them, you dork." BUT, as I said, I've done my research. I even read the first couple of pages of the leaked New Moon or whatever, and COULD NOT get further than that because the writing was so bad. Between the bad writing, the weak main female character, and the subversive Mormon message, I am absolutely certain that I would spend every minute I could force myself to spend on those books yelling at them. And then Mr. Bear would be forced to burn them just to stop the rage and screaming.

This pretty much sums it up. 😉

 

[sibby]

I also am a big fan of Twilight Saga.
Im a massive fan of Robert but im a BIGGER Harry Potter fan and love him as Cedric abit more! hehe

 

[Xin Rong]

I thought the film was ok and I have the books but haven't got round to reading them yet... think I may just download the audiobook so I can listen to itat work instead lol

 

[mcwitty]

Twilight fans?

I'm new so I'm sorry if this is posted in the wrong section. It is an off-topic issue that does indirectly relate to the Buffyverse so maybe I was wrong for posting it here... so please bare with me. 🙂

I was just wondering if anyone on here was a Twilight fan?
I watched the movie first and followed all the hype around it because it was kind of difficult to avoid the hype; it was everywhere. Then about two months ago, I bought the books. I just finished Breaking Dawn.
Another question I had for anyone who does read Twilight is... do you find it weird to believe Meyer's depiction of vampires given that you like me probably spent most of your childhood learning about vampires from Buffy? (I was 7 when Buffy's first season aired in the US).

 

[Perny]

I think it's cool that you are making threads and all, but if you try teh search machine we have, you'll find that posts like this already exists.

 

[Blondie Bear]

Here it is! I'm helping. 😀

Twilight Series - Buffy-Boards

 

[mcwitty]

Oh, sorry Perny. I'll note that down. Thank you. 🙂 And thanks Blondie Bear! 😀

 

[mcwitty]

I just finished Eclipse and I have to say; I despise Bella. I really do.
Well, maybe despise is too strong a word.
She just embodies everything about girls in stories like this that I hate - weak, fickle, indecisive...

 

[mcwitty]

Thank you Blondie Bear and Edmund! 🙂 It's great people are thinking along the same lines as me. I feel right at home.

 

[Tasha]

"Erm, heres what bothers me.
You've not read the books nor seen the film yet you have an opinion on it.

Fact of the matter is that Vampires are not real so Meyers can, if she chooses, make up anything she likes in her fictional world.

I'm not a fan but you never know, you might like it if you give it a go.

There are many stories involving Vampires that have taken elements previously seen and changed it or expanded on them.

I think what she has chosen is silly, but I don't hold it against her that she tried to be different."






thankyouu
well said 😉

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I think it's cool that you are making threads and all, but if you try teh search machine we have, you'll find that posts like this already exists.

the film is crap to be honest, the books are better.
i never ment to post a new thread about this, i was trying to reply back to the "what was the last thing you read" blabla..
lmao

 

[mcwitty]

"Erm, heres what bothers me.
You've not read the books nor seen the film yet you have an opinion on it.

Fact of the matter is that Vampires are not real so Meyers can, if she chooses, make up anything she likes in her fictional world.

I'm not a fan but you never know, you might like it if you give it a go.

There are many stories involving Vampires that have taken elements previously seen and changed it or expanded on them.

I think what she has chosen is silly, but I don't hold it against her that she tried to be different."






thankyouu
well said 😉

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the film is crap to be honest, the books are better.
i never ment to post a new thread about this, i was trying to reply back to the "what was the last thing you read" blabla..
lmao

I agree, the movie didn't do much justice to the books although I have to say watching Robert Pattinson is always fun...
I am definately excited to see the New Moon adaptation, hopefully it won't be as laughable as Twilight was!
Also, I was just wondering, has anyone here read Russet Noon - the fan-published book from Jacob's point of view?

Also, Perny was talking to me Tasha! lol. I made a thread without checking so there was two Twilight threads.

 

[Tasha]

lmfao, sorryyyyy thought you were talking to me: laugh :
: laugh :: laugh :: laugh :: laugh :: laugh :: laugh :

 

[Aly Fan]

Ok right, here's another post to which i'm just going to say what's on my mind and end up getting shouted at by Perny...oh well...

Ok so here's the thing...most of the anti-twilighters are making complaints about Stephanie Meyers vampires..ok wait a sec..you're judging a series of books because the vampires in it are different from the ones in Buffy, so they're automatically wrong?? Don't think so...there's no set vampire mostly because they don't exist. And to be honest it wouldn't have worked if she'd made them the same as JW persepsion of vampires...because then it wouldn't be any different..just samey and boring...

Secondly i've noticed people slagging off how they used vegetarian to describe the cullens...saying well if he's eating deer then he can't be a veggie..well it's vampire veggie...i.e no people!!

Lastly do not judge the books by the film!! The film doesn' do the saga any justice what so ever!!

There i said it...i'm a twilight fan...and i don't care!!

 

[Tasha]

yayayayayay

go ally 😀 😀!!!!!

 

[BuffyElevated]

I don't care how many people rag me for it, I will proudly stand up and say that I absolutely LOVE the Twilight series. All 4 of the books are some of my favorites ever, and I loved the story- especially the love triangle between Jacob and Edward- TEAM SWITZERLAND! 🙂
I love the movie, too, although I felt a lot was left out that should have been left in, and I don't really care for Kristin Stewart's acting style. I also probably wouldn't have picked Robert Pattinson to play Edward, but he's grown on me the more I've watched the movie.

 

[Cohen]

I don't care how many people rag me for it, I will proudly stand up and say that I absolutely LOVE the Twilight series. All 4 of the books are some of my favorites ever, and I loved the story- especially the love triangle between Jacob and Edward- TEAM SWITZERLAND! 🙂
I love the movie, too, although I felt a lot was left out that should have been left in, and I don't really care for Kristin Stewart's acting style. I also probably wouldn't have picked Robert Pattinson to play Edward, but he's grown on me the more I've watched the movie.

Kristin sucked. Hard. I would have much rather hear Kristen Bell do the voice-overs. Also.. again, the direction was sorely lagging. Whoever picked Hardwicke was an idiot. Squared. To the tenth power. Those two pretty much ruined the movie.

I mean, really, who would even think to throw glitter on Edward?

 

[Perny]

Ok right, here's another post to which i'm just going to say what's on my mind and end up getting shouted at by Perny...oh well...

Aly! Why do you keep thinking that I am evil? You hurt me there *snif*