Ultimate Buffy/Angel Summer Rewatch

Joan the Vampire Slayer

Joan the Vampire Slayer

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Anyone else down? Since I'm currently unemployed and have quite a bit of free time at the moment, I'm embarking upon a summer re-watch, crossover style.

We can post our thoughts in this thread as we go along 😉

Here is the list I'm using (Found it on *********)

Angel: Season 1 / Buffy Season 4
4.1 (Buffy) The Freshman: 5 October 1999
1.1 (Angel) City of...: 5 October 1999
4.2 (Buffy) Living Conditions: 12 October 1999
1.2 (Angel) Lonely Hearts: 12 October 1999
4.3 (Buffy) The Harsh Light of Day: 19 October 1999
1.3 (Angel) In The Dark: 19 October 1999
4.4 (Buffy) Fear, Itself: 26 October 1999
1.4 (Angel) I Fall to Pieces: 26 October 1999
4. 5 (Buffy) Beer Bad: 2 November 1999
1.5 (Angel) Rm w/a Vu: 2 November 1999
4.6 (Buffy) Wild at Heart: 9 November 1999
1.6 (Angel) Sense and Sensitivity: 9 November 1999
4.7 (Buffy) The Initiative: 16 November 1999
1.7 (Angel) The Bachelor Party: 16 November 1999
4.8 (Buffy) Pangs: 23 November 1999
1.8 (Angel) I Will Remember You: 23 November 1999
4.9 (Buffy) Something Blue: 30 November 1999
1.9 (Angel) Hero: 30 November 1999
4.10 (Buffy) Hush: 14 December 1999
1.10 (Angel) Parting Gifts: 14 December 1999
4.11 (Buffy) Doomed: 18 January 2000
1.11 (Angel) Somnambulist: 18 January 2000
4.12 (Buffy) A New Man 25 January 2000
1.12 (Angel) Expecting: 25 January 2000
4.13 (Buffy) The I in Team: 8 Febuary 2000
1.13 (Angel) She: 8 Febuary 2000
4.14 (Buffy) Goodbye Iowa: 15 Febuary 2000
1.14 (Angel) I've Got You Under My Skin: 15 Febuary 2000
4.15 (Buffy) This Years Girl: 22 Febuary 2000
1.15 (Angel) The Prodigal: 22 Febuary 2000
4.16 (Buffy) Who Are You?: 29 Febuary 2000
1.16 (Angel) The Ring: 29 Febuary 2000
4.17 (Buffy) Superstar: 4 April 2000
1.17 (Angel) Eternity: 4 April 2000
4.18 (Buffy) Where the Wild Things Are: 25 April 2000
1.18 (Angel) Five By Five: 25 April 2000
4.19 (Buffy) New Moon Rising: 2 May 2000
1.19 (Angel) Sanctuary: 2 May 2000
4.20 (Buffy) The Yoko Factor: 9 May 2000
1.20 (Angel) War Zone: 9 May 2000
4.21 (Buffy) Primeval: 16 May 2000
1.21 (Angel) Blind Date: 16 May 2000
4.22 (Buffy) Restless: 23 May 2000
1.22 (Angel) To Shanua in L.A.: 23 May 2000

Angel Season 2 / Buffy Season 5
5.1 (Buffy) Buffy vs. Dracula: 26 September 2000
2.1 (Angel) Judgment: 26 September 2000
5.2 (Buffy) Real Me: 3 October 2000
2.2 (Angel) Are You Now or Have You Ever Been: 3 October 2000
5.3 (Buffy) The Replacement: 10 October 2000
2.3 (Angel) First Impressions: 10 October 2000
5.4 (Buffy) Out of My Mind: 17 October 2000
2.4 (Angel) Untouched: 17 October 2000
5.5 (Buffy) No Place Like Home: 24 October 2000
2.5 (Angel) Dear Boy: 24 October 2000
5.6 (Buffy) Family: 7 November 2000
2.6 (Angel) Guise Will Be Guise: 7 November 2000
5.7 (Buffy) Fool for Love: 14 November 2000
2.7 (Angel) Darla: 14 November 2000
5.8 (Buffy) Shadow: 21 November 2000
2.8 (Angel) The Shroud of Rahmon: 21 November 2000
5.9 (Buffy) Listening to Fear: 28 November 2000
2.9 (Angel) The Trial: 28 November 2000
5.10 (Buffy) Into the Woods: 19 December 2000
2.10 (Angel) Reunion: 19 December 2000
5.11 (Buffy) Triangle: 9 January 20001
2.11 (Angel) Redefinition: 16 January 2001
5.12 (Buffy) Checkpoint: 23 January 2001
2.12 (Angel) Blood Money: 23 January 2001
5.13 (Buffy) Blood Ties: 6 February 2001
2.13 (Angel) Happy Anniversary: 6 February 2001
5.14 (Buffy) Crush: 13 February 2001
2.14 (Angel) The Thin Dead Line: 13 February 2001
5.15 (Buffy) I Was Made to Love You: 20 February 2001
2.15 (Angel) Reprise: 20 February 2001
5.16 (Buffy) The Body: 27 February 2001
2.16 (Angel) Epiphany: 27 February 2001
5.17 (Buffy) Forever: 17 April 2001
2.17 (Angel) Disharmony: 17 April 2001
5.18 (Buffy) Intervention: 24 April 2001
2.18 (Angel) Dead End: 24 April 2001
5.19 (Buffy) Tough Love: 1 May 2001
2.19 (Angel) Belonging: 1 May 2001
5.20 (Buffy) Spiral: 8 May 2001
2.20 (Angel) Over the Rainbow: 8 May 2001
5.21 (Buffy) The Weight of the World: 15 May 2001
2.21 (Angel) Through the Looking Glass: 15 May 2001
5.22 (Buffy) The Gift: 22 May 2001
2.22 (Angel) There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb: 22 May 2001

Angel Season 3 / Buffy Season 6
3.1 (Angel) Heartthrob: 24 September 2001
3.2 (Angel) That Vision Thing: 1 October 2001
6.1/2 (Buffy) Bargaining: 2 October 2001
3.3 (Angel) That Old Gang of Mine: 8 October 2001
6.3 (Buffy) After Life: 9 october 2001
3.4 (Angel) Carpe Noctem: 15 October 2001
6.4 (Buffy) Flooded: 16 October 2001
3.5 (Angel) Fredless: 22 October 2001
6.5 (Buffy) Life Serial: 23 October 2001
3.6 (Angel) Billy: 29 October 2001
6.6 (Buffy) All the Way: 30 October 2001
3.7 (Angel) Offspring: 5 November 2001
6.7 (Buffy) Once More, with Feeling: 6 November 2001
3.8 (Angel) Quickening: 12 November 2001
6.8 (Buffy) Tabula Rasa: 13 November 2001
3.9 (Angel) Lullaby: 19 November 2001
6.9 (Buffy) Smashed: 20 November 2001
6.10 (Buffy) Wrecked: 27 November 2001
3.10 (Angel) Dad: 10 December 2001
6.11 (Buffy) Gone: 8 January 2002
3.11 (Angel) Birthday: 14 January 2002
3.12 (Angel) Provider: 21 January 2002
6.12 (Buffy) Doublemeat Palace: 29 January 2002
3.13 (Angel) Waiting in the Wings: 4 February 2002
6.13 (Buffy) Dead Things: 5 February 2002
6.14 (Buffy) Older and Far Away: 12 February 2002
3.14 (Angel) Couplet: 18 February 2002
3.15 (Angel) Loyalty: 25 February 2002
6.15 (Buffy) As You Were: 26 February 2002
3.16 (Angel) Sleep Tight: 4 March 2002
6.16 (Buffy) Hell's Bells: 5 March 2002
6.17 (Buffy) Normal Again: 12 March 2002
3.17 (Angel) Forgiving: 15 April 2002
3.18 (Angel) Double or Nothing: 22 April 2002
3.19 (Angel) The Price: 29 April 2002
6.18 (Buffy) Entropy: 30 April 2002
3.20 (Angel) A New World: 6 May 2002
6.19 (Buffy) Seeing Red: 7 May 2002
3.21 (Angel) Benediction: 13 May 2002
6.20 (Buffy) Villains: 14 May 2002
3.22 (Angel) Tomorrow: 20 May 2002
6.21 (Buffy) Two to Go: 21 May 2002
6.22 (Buffy) Grave: 21 May 2002

Angel Season 4 / Buffy Season 7
7.1 (Buffy) Lessons: 24 September 2002
7.2 (Buffy) Beneath You: 1 October 2002
4.1 (Angel) Deep Down : 6 October 2002
7.3 (Buffy) Same Time, Same Place: 8 October 2002
4.2 (Angel) Ground State: 13 October 2002
7.4 (Buffy) Help: 15 October 2002
4.3 (Angel) The House Always Wins: 20 October 2002
7.5 (Buffy) Selfless: 22 October 2002
4.4 (Angel) Slouching Toward Bethlehem: 27 October 2002
4.5 (Angel) Supersymmetry: 3 November 2002
7.6 (Buffy) Him: 5 November 2002
4.6 (Angel) Spin the Bottle: 10 November 2002
7.8 (Buffy) Conversations with Dead People: 12 November 2002
4.7 (Angel) Apocalypse, Nowish: 17 November 2002
7.9 (Buffy) Sleeper: 19 November 2002
7.10 (Buffy) Never Leave Me: 26 November 2002
7.11 (Buffy) Bring on the Night: 17 December 2002
7.12 (Buffy) Showtime: 7 January 2003
4.8 (Angel) Habeas Corpses: 15 January 2002
7.13 (Buffy) Potential: 21 January 2003
4.9 (Angel) Long Day's Journey: 22 January 2003
4.10 (Angel) Awakening: 29 January 2003
7.14 (Buffy) The Killer in Me: 4 February 2003
4.11 (Angel) Soulless: 5 February 2003
7.15 (Buffy) First Date: 11 February 2003
4.12 (Angel) Calvary: 12 February 2003
7.16 (Buffy) Get It Done: 18 February 2003
7.17 (Buffy) Storyteller: 25 February 2003
4.13 (Angel) Salvage: 5 March 2003
4.14 (Angel) Release: 12 March 2003
7.18 (Buffy) Lies My Parents Told Me: 19 March 2003
4.15 (Angel) Orpheus: 25 March 2003
4.16 (Angel) Players: 26 March 2003
4.17 (Angel) Inside Out: 2 April 2003
4.18 (Angel) Shiny Happy People: 9 April 2003
7.19 (Buffy) Dirty Girls: 15 April 2003
4.19 (Angel) The Magic Bullet: 16 April 2003
4.20 (Angel) Sacrifice: 23 April 2003
7.20 (Buffy) Empty Places: 29 April 2003
4.21 (Angel) Peace Out: 30 April 2003
7.21 (Buffy) Touched: 6 May 2003
4.22 (Angel) Home: 7 May 2003
7.22 (Buffy) End of Days: 13 May 2003
7.33 (Buffy) Chosen: 20 May 2003
 
I might catch an episode here and there and do a half-hearted participation, but I don't think I'd be able to keep up with this right now. Plus I'm kind of going through a reading phase this summer while there's no new TV to watch.
 
Revolver said:
I might catch an episode here and there and do a half-hearted participation, but I don't think I'd be able to keep up with this right now. Plus I'm kind of going through a reading phase this summer while there's no new TV to watch.
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Me too. I'm reading and watching Buffy - too bad I don't have a life or a job...

My boyfriend moved out so I'm sort of depressed and lonely too... *sigh

I've been looking for a job everyday, though...

What are you reading?
 
I'll keep up as much as I can but with working full-time and trying to make a huge dent in my thesis it could be few and far between. I really want to watch them though so I'll do my best 🙂
 
Aww man. I'm at 'Same Time, Same Place' of my Buffy marathon. I started buying Angel four seasons ago. I need one left, and I'm gonna start watching Angel right after my Buffy marathon is over. Next time I'll watch them in above order
 
Thoughts as I proceed;

It's weird. My response to S1 has always been that it's really cheesy and campy "“ but now that I'm re-watching it I have a newfound respect and love for it. It really is delightfully entertaining. And gotta love the 90s hair, leopard print, and 90s expressions like "boot it" and man, who even remembers James Spader?!

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Continuity Glitch, "The Harvest"

The Master: A Slayer. Have you any proof?
Luke: Only that she fought me and yet lives.
The Master: Oh, very nearly truth enough. I can't remember the last time that happened.
Luke: 1843, Madrid.
The Master: Ahh"¦
Luke: He caught me sleeping.

It seems like he's implying that the Slayer at that time as a man, but I guess it could be a writing glitch. We know this cannot be correct because the Slayer is always female. Perhaps he's alluding to the fact that no one, just just a Slayer, has ever fought him and lived.

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Discussion Questions Season 1: "The Harvest" and "Welcome to the Hellmouth."

1. Do you think Xander (either consciously or unconsciously) resented Buffy for being unable to save Jesse? He didn't really show any grief except for kicking a trash can and proclaiming his newly realized worldview on vampires. I mean, the guy ended up staking his own friend. That's got to leave some emotional scars. And, the same day he found out about vampires in the first place! My theory on his is that Xander was in denial, and he never really allowed himself to deal with what happened, which caused him to hold resentment towards Buffy in the long run.

AND"¦I can't believe I never saw this before! Giles says "The Earth is doomed" in "The Harvest" and in "Chosen!" God, I love Buffy. Always something new to notice ☺

2. What's up with Angel's extreme cockiness and David's bad acting? He'd been watching her for all this time, leading up to this final moment where he meets her. Where's his signature shyness? His endearing awkwardness? I see no Angel is these first two episodes. Only a distorted Angelus.

I wouldn't have protested with Jesse being kept around longer. He was actually pretty sexy as a vampire.

Little bit of forshadowing I picked up on:

Angel: "She did it I'll be damned."
Well, he is. But at this point, the audience doesn't know this fact 😉
 
Perny said:
I'll be watching Buffy all summer anyway
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Yippee! Post your thoughts here as you watch. 😉

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So, if anyone also didn't get that James Spader refereence in "Welcome to the Hellmouth", here he is:

http://www.ugo.com/movies/steven-soderbergh-retrospective/images/sex-lies-and-videotape.jpg

Here's the dialouge:
Cordelia: So over. James Spader?
Buffy Summers: He needs to call me.

90s actor. He played that jerk in Pretty in Pink...
 
I thought we were starting from Buffy season 4 and Angel season 1????
 
I think it's to match up with Angel. When Buffy starts s4 Angel's show start. And they'll finish same time.
 
Well I was searching for something specific and came across this thread, seemed fitting since this is exactly what I'm doing. Besides work and figuring out my newish ferret, I've been watching Buffy and Angel a lot. I'm up to the end of season 5 right now, and I'm trying to get up to season 7 really quick to catch up with my sister. They're on disc 5 right now though, so I doubt I'll catch up 🙁

This time around, I've actually enjoyed certain scenes/characters/etc more than I have the previous few times I've watched Buffy. Riley is less hated, Glory is more loved, Dawn hasn't bothered me as much. I still couldn't stand Adam though, and doubt I'll ever really like him. The actor just wasn't bulk enough I guess. I wonder why they didn't get someone all roided out to play an extremely powerful military-man/demon hybrid?

Season 2 didn't hold up as well for me this time either. I wouldn't say I like it any less, but the other seasons have grown on me a lot more. Partly it's due to the frat house episode... as much as frat guys and drunkards annoy me, and as great as the metaphor is in that episode, I just don't think it worked as well as I originally thought.

All in all though, this is what I love so much about Buffy--at least one of the things. The fact that I can watch it over and over and get something different out of it each time. Plus, my sister and her Buffy-friend think of me as the Buffy encyclopedia while they're marathoning through the show for the first time. They're always asking me what's going to happen next, if so and so will die, etc. And as much as they want to know, it's surprised me that they haven't thought to look up spoilers online.
 
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