Was It Holtz or Justine?

[The Ferg]

Who made up the plan to have Justine put 2 puncture wounds in Holtz's neck. Was that his plan all along, or was Justine just being a retard (or slave, as one might put it 🙂 ).

Either way Connor should've seen the note and changed his mind about killing Angel, but that's beside the point.

 

[white avenger]

It was Holtz's idea. Justine tried to talk him out of it, but by that time I guess that his obsession with destroying Angel had driven him completely over the edge. It always surprised me that Connor, raised and trained by as experienced vampire hunter as Holtz himself would mistake two ice pick puncture wounds as any sort of vampire bite, especially as far apart as they were. Any vamp with a jaw that wide would have to be a Neanderthal.

 

[Spuffy78]

WA is right. You hear Holtz say "now again" after Justine puts the first hole in his neck. Although Holtz was a vampire Hunter Connor was in a hell demon dimension for most of his life so I assume they weren't Vampires there. Connor not know what a Vampire bite looks like and knowing Holtz's history with Angel, Connor assumed it was Angel who bit him.

 

[bloodflower]

It was Holtz's idea. Justine tried to talk him out of it, but by that time I guess that his obsession with destroying Angel had driven him completely over the edge. It always surprised me that Connor, raised and trained by as experienced vampire hunter as Holtz himself would mistake two ice pick puncture wounds as any sort of vampire bite, especially as far apart as they were. Any vamp with a jaw that wide would have to be a Neanderthal.

exactly what i thought how did he not know that they were fake and what annoyed me was that holtz said he loved Conner but was willing to hurt and break him (both by killing himslef adn making him hate angel) just to get back at angel after so many years. he could see it hurt angel to think of what he had done adn he was trying to do goood to over come the bad he did in the past.