What does being a Spuffy mean to you?

[Joan the Vampire Slayer]

Again I state I've only seen it once and plan on keeping it that way.

Fair enough.

To me Buffy didn't have feelings FOR HIM, but instead needed something to keep her mind side tracked for a moment and then it began to grow into feelings for him.

I agree with this on some level, in that Buffy used Spike in an attempt to "feel" something, but it was clear that Buffy had feelings for Spike in Season 5 (think about the sexual tension between them in FFL, or the way she kissed him in Intervention).

Spike stated he loved Buffy but I think he honestly never knew what love was.

From the very beginning we are supposed to believe that Spike is an anomaly and therefore has the capacity to love without a soul. In School Hard we see the sharp contrast between his vicious brutality and the affectionate way he treats Drusilla. This is what makes Spike special. This is not debatable, Joss has said so. Whether that love, pre-soul, is selfless is debatable, but Spike certainly could love. He was completely devoted to Drusilla, constantly putting her needs before his own. Dru said that vampires can love (if not wisely). Spike allows himself to be tortured by Glory and refuses to reveal that Dawn is the Key, and Buffy recognizes the gravity of that in Intervention.

To be the reason Buffy started to like Spike was because of Power Play since she made herself in control and kept it that way only coming to Spike when she wanted to.

True that. Buffy was the "man" in the relationship.

 

[Miss Kitty]

You said that very well! 🙂

Thank you ♥ *hug*

I just saw some English mistakes in my text ("anything" instead of "nothing"), it's really frustrating, and I can't even edit my post 😱 . I hope I'll progress with time and practice 😱

 

[wickedtiger86]

This is actually a lot harder to answer than I thought it would be.

I guess their relationship is important to me because the real meaningful parts of their relationship didn't really develop until after they stopped sleeping together. I know that that's weird but I can explain . . . maybe . . .

Most relationships begin a little like theirs did. They were aware of each other. haha. Then started a weird friendship. He was interested in her. She kept talking to him anyway. Then they began a physical relationship because she was, well, vulnerable and needy. It was crazy and explosive and intense, like physical relationships can be.

But after all of that wore off, in crazy Joss written types of ways, they ended up getting even closer to each other. To me the whole thing could be taken as a huge metaphor for relationships.

How they begin and how, after years, they end up. And the deep fulfilling friendship is what lasts in a relationship. At least in my experience.

 

[Living Dead Boy]

I agree with all parts here. Although I would like to go further with this discussion, I'll simple it down to one line:

Spike: "I know I'm a monster, but you treat me like man."

I know I have flaws, I know I might not be the happiest man alive when I wake up, I know Ive hurt you more times than you can imagine, but you treat me in a way that I've never been treated before: Like a human deserving of respect. I mean seriously, isn't that what everybody wants? To completely strip naked in front of the one you love, scars and all, insecurities bare, ugly habits front and center, and say: Do you love me now?

 

[wickedtiger86]

I agree with all parts here. Although I would like to go further with this discussion, I'll simple it down to one line:

Spike: "I know I'm a monster, but you treat me like man."

I know I have flaws, I know I might not be the happiest man alive when I wake up, I know Ive hurt you more times than you can imagine, but you treat me in a way that I've never been treated before: Like a human deserving of respect. I mean seriously, isn't that what everybody wants? To completely strip naked in front of the one you love, scars and all, insecurities bare, ugly habits front and center, and say: Do you love me now?

Awesome post. For some reason the boards wouldn't let me rep you right now but I had to say that.

This is what's so interesting and beautiful about Spuffy by the end. They really knew each other and were learning how accept each other anyway.