What is "Vampire" Love? Should Humans Be on the Receiving End?

[NoShip]

In multiple interviews, Joss Whedon tells us that Vampire Love is selfish and obsessive and toxic. He brings the receipts in various episodes of BTVS.
Many viewers disagree and point at various episodes of BTVS.

Is there any way to square this circle?

 

[garfan]

Does anyone else ever think about how the only people we hear extol the virtues of passion in relationships are bad guys, but the fans treat those claims about it as true

 

[NotASlayer]

Vampire love, as depicted, is possessive and narcissistic. It's love with the love taken out, because it is all about the person, not the one they claim to love. Without a soul, vampires can't love like a human can (yes, humans can and do behave the same way, but they have the option). With a soul, they can be more like humans, in that there is finally an option.

It is probably noteworthy that Spike only insisted he loved Buffy when he lacked a soul.

 

[garfan]

Vampire love, as depicted, is possessive and narcissistic. It's love with the love taken out, because it is all about the person, not the one they claim to love. Without a soul, vampires can't love like a human can (yes, humans can and do behave the same way, but they have the option). With a soul, they can be more like humans, in that there is finally an option.

It is probably noteworthy that Spike only insisted he loved Buffy when he lacked a soul.

Maybe but it could also be thought he knew what he did was terrible, and it would suck to do it to Buffy

 

[NotASlayer]

Maybe but it could also be thought he knew what he did was terrible, and it would suck to do it to Buffy

Except we know he had no remorse for any of his actions until well into Angel S5 and literally said something along the lines of not caring about redemption.

 

[NoShip]

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[garfan]

Except we know he had no remorse for any of his actions until well into Angel S5 and literally said something along the lines of not caring about redemption.

we all know that the First was able to **** with his head more successfully than anyone else it dealt with and their should be a reason for that

Plus Spike was also told to act like his old self. And frankly I think of Spike as a poser

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I think something got cut off

 

[wolfheart]

I think vampires are lonely creatures, only a human turned vampire can act as love interest, humans considered cattle by vampires.
Yiou will say and Buffy and Angel then? They are the exception on this matter( my humble opinion)

 

[garfan]

I think vampires are lonely creatures, only a human turned vampire can act as love interest, humans considered cattle by vampires.
Yiou will say and Buffy and Angel then? They are the exception on this matter( my humble opinion)

that overlooks turning humans. Humans are a lot of different things to vampires