What places can vampires enter?

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So we all know a vampire cant enter someones house uninvited. But, does that same rule apply to anywhere else, like, say your office at work, or another place you own.
Im asking coz last night i watched Passion, and Cordy was worried because she invited Angel into her car once and now Angelus could get in. Willow even done a de-inviting spell on her car.
 
Well, they can enter gas stations and libraries, grocery stores and Burger King.....do we really have to list all the places they can enter or could we go with just what they can't?

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Hey, I didn't say they made a season long STORY ARC out of it....just that they CAN go in there.
Spike walks into the DoubleMeat Palace...why couldn't he go into Burger King? Do they mop the floor with Holy Water there?
And SPIKE goes to the store for Groceries! Do you WATCH the show or just here to be snarky?
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Well I guess they can enter public places. Like the school, remember people? I think that's because in public places, everyone is sort of invited, because for instance a shop owner wants everyone to come into their shop to purchase things.
The trickier part of this whole thing is hotels imo. Things are a little shaky there. It's not exactly like a house because people don't really live there, they only stay there for a certain amount of time usually, but it's also not really that much of a public place, the rooms are private.
 
Yeah, I don't get hotels.
I mean, you're "home" what makes it your home? You pay money for it and sign something...either to own it or rent it. You sleep there, your stuff is in it. That seems to be enough to keep vampires out.
But, hotels they seem to be able to get into...but it's the same thing, you pay, sign something, drag your crap in it. You should be SAFE there! You kinda "own the room" temporarily.
Some some hotels are longer stays. So, how long do ya gotta rent a room before it qualifies as a "home"?
Cordy had to invite Angel into her apartment right away...why doesn't that work for a hotel room?
 
Hm okay I thought about it again. In 'Real Me' Buffy mentions that only someone who lives there can invite a vampire in. So maybe it's as long as you still have a 'real home', so some other place you intend to go back after you're out of the hotel you still count as living in that house and not the hotel? That's a possibility.
 
What if you have a "vacation home"?

darn it! Now I gotta invite Spike here and interview him to get some answers. (Don't tell Blondie Bear)
 
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I think, since it is mystical, intention comes into it. If you consider a hotel/motel room your current "home", then a Vampire can't get in. If you don't, they can. With a holiday home it's more concrete, since you actually own it and intend to live there (at least some of the time). I would think that is enough.
 
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First time anybody's ever accused me of being "coherent."
When Fred moved into the Hyperian, even though the hotel belonded to Angel, she had to invite him into her room (I can't remember whether she had to invite him into her cave in Pylea), and, once the home owner left in "Empty Places" in Season 7, Spike was able to come in where Buffy was. Fred thought of her room as her home whereas Buffy was only "looking for a place to crash." (I know what Spike said about "they" really having taken over, and that's why he could come in uninvited, but for the sake of my argument, I'm gonna just assume that he was wrong) Andrew was able to invite Angel and Spike into pseudo-Buffy's apartment, even though he says that he is only staying there because he burned his apartment up. Angel was able to enter kate's apartment in time to save her, even though she wasn't dead (luckily for her, she didn't need cpr, wasn't it?) Finally, Angel had to be invited into Lindsey's office, even though he didn't live there.

My point is, maybe whenever someone considers a particular place as their private spot, sanctuary, place of refuge, home, sanctum sanctorium, "my" place, or whatever, that attitude somehow forms a sort of personal shield, something like an expanded aura, that protects that spot from uninvited invasion by any mystical or supernatural force. In other words, what actually makes a house a home is more the attitude of the resident than who either owns it. Otherwise, an apartment, rental house, or hotel room would be exempt from the invitation clause.
 
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Just like what I said....only coherent and with examples...
Well that is odd! I'd never have thought that Angel or Spike sticking there tongues into Buffy's mouth would cause as much reaction as it has!

But just to confuse the issue.
A vampire should have been able to enter a school, being as how it's a public place, yet just before Angel killed Jenny she asked him how he got in. He replied saying that the School entry had, ' Enter all yea who want to learn ' ( or something similar ) as if that was the only way he could get in.

And in another episode Spike and 'his' crew jumped into the school through a window, and I'm guessing it wasn't for Buffy's lemonade, but then again were they diabetic?
 
ILLYRIAN said:
Well that is odd! I'd never have thought that Angel or Spike sticking there tongues into Buffy's mouth would cause as much reaction as it has!

But just to confuse the issue.
A vampire should have been able to enter a school, being as how it's a public place, yet just before Angel killed Jenny she asked him how he got in. He replied saying that the School entry had, ' Enter all yea who want to learn ' ( or something similar ) as if that was the only way he could get in.

And in another episode Spike and 'his' crew jumped into the school through a window, and I'm guessing it wasn't for Buffy's lemonade, but then again were they diabetic?
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Yeah vampires can enter schools, Jenny was obviously confused about her metaphysics and Angelus was toying with her.

Yeah like it's been said vampires can enter public buildings. Vampires need an invite to private residence bu this does not extend to private clubs(Expecting).

They can also invite the vampire by proxy. Example: Magnus invited Wesley when he thought he was Angel and Angel was able to enter. In other words he was inviting 'Angel'.

Dorm rooms are somewhat difficult. Sundays gang was able to enter so I'd say that with dorm no invitation is necessary. Spike and Angel were never seen to be forcibly held back by a barrier, maybe they assumed they couldn't get in.

The inviter has to a living human but doesn't have to be the owner (Dawn).

The odd case is Connor's digs. Angel was able to enter without an invitation. It shouldn't matter that Connor is his son (see Prodigal) so how did he get in? Is Connor entirely human? We know that Connor is Angel's son but maybe the circumstances of his birth bent the rules somehow, or maybe a higher power intervened.
 
Kana said:
The odd case is Connor's digs. Angel was able to enter without an invitation. It shouldn't matter that Connor is his son (see Prodigal) so how did he get in? Is Connor entirely human? We know that Connor is Angel's son but maybe the circumstances of his birth bent the rules somehow, or maybe a higher power intervened.
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I thought Angel was the one that got the place for him?
 
Kana said:
Yeah vampires can enter schools, Jenny was obviously confused about her metaphysics and Angelus was toying with her.

Yeah like it's been said vampires can enter public buildings. Vampires need an invite to private residence bu this does not extend to private clubs(Expecting).

They can also invite the vampire by proxy. Example: Magnus invited Wesley when he thought he was Angel and Angel was able to enter. In other words he was inviting 'Angel'.

Dorm rooms are somewhat difficult. Sundays gang was able to enter so I'd say that with dorm no invitation is necessary. Spike and Angel were never seen to be forcibly held back by a barrier, maybe they assumed they couldn't get in.

The inviter has to a living human but doesn't have to be the owner (Dawn).

The odd case is Connor's digs. Angel was able to enter without an invitation. It shouldn't matter that Connor is his son (see Prodigal) so how did he get in? Is Connor entirely human? We know that Connor is Angel's son but maybe the circumstances of his birth bent the rules somehow, or maybe a higher power intervened.
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I thought that Sunday could enter people's dorm rooms because technically the owner they were there to steal things from was dead. It might have been different if they were stealing from the roommate.


And I also thought Connor's place was like a ratty old no walls flop place that was half falling down. I think to have a "private home" (at least under the law of search warrants) you have to have a "reasonable expectation of privacy". Something about that place leads me to believe ANYONE could just walk in!
 
And also Connor probably didnt see that place as his home, more like just a place he's staying at for a while.
 
Dlou444 said:
I thought that Sunday could enter people's dorm rooms because technically the owner they were there to steal things from was dead. It might have been different if they were stealing from the roommate.
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But Buffy wasn't dead when they stole her stuff, so it seems that dorms are open. Though it's a bit fuzzy later because Spike comes into Buffy/Willow's room . . . after Willow calls, "Come in!" (You'd think they would have learned better by then.)
 
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Maybe Spike could have just walked in if he wanted to though with no invitation, and he just decided to knock just to see what happened.
 
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