What's so cool about hot chicks with guns?

Professor Walsh

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I'll be the first to admit that the Dollhouse promo pic of the gun with Eliza is über-cool, that Trinity rocked my world from the second she arrived on the screen in the first "Matrix" movie and that Agent Ripley is nothing short of an icon. Not only do I occasionally like looking at women with guns (the less realistic, the better), I'm also fully capable of enjoying myself on the shooting range. At the same time I know, by painful experience, the irrevocable damage a desperate person with a gun can do to a family. (Sometimes I feel really shallow for still being able to have fun with guns after having my world shaken so terribly by someone wielding one, but that's a different topic.)

When we all know the damage a gun can do, why are they still so cool?

Guns don't show up all that often in BtVS, do you think they add something positive when they do? Why/why not?
 
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Emzzie
Hehe, matrix karma ;)
When we all know the damage a gun can do, why are they still so cool?

In general guys seem to like things that do damage. That's why "guy movies" often have loads of explosions in them. That doesn't mean that they like when tragedies happen in real life though. But I guess that's a start. "Forbidden" things/people also tend to attract all genders. Or why not go with "the dangerous" one? Guns are dangerous after all.

I don't think guns are cool but of course there's pics/characters I find hot when they have a gun. But for me I don't think it's because of the gun. More the feel of it. Samurai swords are so much hotter anyway. 😉

And the promo pics with Eliza and the gun did absolutely nothing for me.

As for guns in Btvs I only remember two times and none of those times did it add anything good in my eyes. I might have forgotten some scenes though. Why not? Tara dying, Buffy almost dying and Darla didn't look the slightest cool with guns. It added a little "extra" danger but that was about it. I could easily have done without both scenes.
 
Professor Walsh
Professor Walsh
I held a real, Japanese sword once. It was so well balanced it was a joy to feel. It's amazing that someone can forge something something like that.
Guns don't show up all that often in BtVS, do you think they add something positive when they do? Why/why not?

Guns show up more often on Angel, I think since it's more of a morally grey area kinda show. But on Buffy they were always shown in a bad light, like with Tara's killing. In Flooded Buffy said something along the lines about guns being never helpful, then later in the season it's Warren with a gun that kills Tara, not a demon or magic. It's a gun that causes the most devastation.
 
I'd say this is a gun, too, that makes three times.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Thinkerbell/Buffy%20meets%20GIMP/guntotin.jpg
 
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Wishing Oceans
Wishing Oceans
well, that's only if you think Buffy is hot :)
I remember Buffy's typical response to guns was, "These things? Never helpful." lol I think hot chicks with guns are cool too. I don't want to, but I can't help myself. Trinity rocks.
 
I'd say this is a gun, too, that makes three times.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Thinkerbell/Buffy%20meets%20GIMP/guntotin.jpg

In that case the gun was good then. Since it helped kill the judge when they couldn't come up with another solution.
 
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I know, by painful experience, the irrevocable damage a desperate person with a gun can do to a family. (Sometimes I feel really shallow for still being able to have fun with guns after having my world shaken so terribly by someone wielding one, but that’s a different topic.)

When we all know the damage a gun can do, why are they still so cool?

Guns don’t show up all that often in BtVS, do you think they add something positive when they do? Why/why not?


We've gotten into the topic of guns and gun control here before, and it always leads into what I like to refer to as a "Cave men vs Astronauts" debate, because there are people here, myself among them, who feel so strongly about the subject. It's ironic to me that your first statement above pretty much sums up the real problem with what is sometimes called "gun violence." "...my world shaken so terribly BY SOMEONE WIELDING ONE." A firearm, ANY firearm, is an inanimate object, incapable of any action, either destructive of harmful, in and of itself. To blame one for the deaths caused by the irresponsible or criminal use it is put to is no more logical than blaming automobiles (which are, by the way, involved in as many as 8 deaths for every 1 attributed to firearms) for traffic deaths. That's my rant on that subject, and I have no real desire to engage in a debate here and now that neither side can ever win.

As for the use of guns in the Buffyverse, the only character who regularly used them, to the best of my knowledge, was Wes, and when he did, he seemed particularly competent with and respectful of them. I think that the main reason that Joss avoided the wholesale use of them was that he didn't want Buffy to become another "Blade," Her confrontations with demons and vampires were almost exclusively one on one, and it simply looked better to engage in a little hand to hand (or claw, depending on the particular demon) combat before dispatching her opponent. (Dollhouse is another subject entirely, but even there, guns are used mostly for their dramatic effect, and in almost every case, a knife or a club would have worked just as well)

As to whether guns "add something positive" to Buffy, I don't think so in particular, with the exception of the rocket launcher, but then, neither, really, do stakes, crossbows, or swords, except to serve as the tools of the Slayer's trade.

Why do "men's movies" or "action movies" involve guns and explosions? Probably the greatest action movie ever made, "Enter The Dragon," never made use of a single gun or explosion. Unfortunately, very few, if any of the other well known "action stars," with the exception of Seagal and Norris, both of whom are real martial artists of the highest order, actually have the skill required to pull off anything of the magnitude of Lee's classic without looking ridiculous, plus almost none of the current writers working in Hollywood have the least clue about what it would take to make an action movie WITHOUT guns or explosions. So, for Hollywood, guns equal action, simply because so few people involved in the movie making business have the talent to do it any other way.
 
I love hot girls with guns. 😀 It's cool, but not just because they looks good with it, but also because I know it's hard to use. And real guns are kinda heavy. That means these girls characters worked hard and are well-trained to use it right. These actresses act well. They look so confidence.

There's a guy who played Ken and Sajhan that later, he played a character in the first episode of Firefly. I'm annoyed every time I see how he holds gun in that episode. It seems wrong. ^_^

My favorite girl with gun is not Eliza. It's her(see below). I like Eliza with fists and kicks more.

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And it's funny how I also thought about guns in Angel and BtVS last night when I went to bed, lol. I think they don't use it much in BtVS because Buffy has slayer strength and it would be weird if the Scoobies used it. They're students and libralian.

But actually, you can see guns in BtVS as much as in ANGEL(Darla in S1, Buffy with rocket launcher, Ken in S2, Police officers in S2, S3 and S6, The Initiative and Warren). I understand why you think they didn't use it much. That's because the people who used it weren't the Scoobies. But the people who used it on Angel were A.I. members(and Lilah). By the way, I like when Fred uses guns. 😀
 
Remember Linda Hamilton in The Terminator 2? She was a little TOO lean but I remember her pumping the shotgun with one hand. That was impressive.
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white avenger
white avenger
She WAS way too thin, but it worked out well, since, by the beginning of the next movie, she had died of cancer. And pumping the shotgun was impressive looking, but a very good way to drop it.
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Eleftheria
Sarah Connor was such a kick ass mother for John,the hope of humanity.
I love hot girls with guns. 😀


If you like hot girls with guns, you'll love this. Don't let the titlle fool you, though. There's no skin displayed. (Darn it!)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6itKVP41Ao"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6itKVP41Ao[/ame]
 
MinwaraYana
MinwaraYana
Thanks. I'll watch it later. :)
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TheGrandmaster
No skin dispayed? That's a shame.
The anti-gun stance on Buffy always kind of pissed me off, although I guess after what happens in season 6 they have a right to be traumatized by guns.

And, it’s definitely not just guys finding guns hot. 😀 Just look at many of the females of the LOST (a VERY gun-heavy show with the majority of users being men) fandom, myself included.

Also, Wesley + a gun = Me-completely-incoherent. But it’s impossible for me to find Wesley unattractive, so I’m not the best judge there…
 
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thevikingsgirl
ITA about Wesley.
Personally I hate guns. I can't think of anything that would impress me less than wielding a gun but they are considered a sign of power and power is certainly something that is desired. As to why people think women with guns are hot? A woman wielding a phallic type weapon...kinda explains itself.
 
I've just watched Shells and realized how men crying can effect me as much as women with guns. I felt so sad when Wes and Gunn cried.
 
There is one pistol packin' momma thats not really much of a hottie.. but maybe if I lived in Alaska.
palin-simulator-gun1.jpg

she's looking for russians...
 
Kean
Kean
It must be handy to be able to see them from her house
Professor Walsh
Professor Walsh
Since she's justabout as far North as I am, I suppose I should be careful. Elk or leftie - not much of a difference?
white avenger
white avenger
If you look closely, you might notice that the muzzle of her rifle is plugged. It's a non-firing training aid, and about as deadly as a broom handle.
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Emzzie
oh lord.....she looks mighty attractive there ;)
I don't like Eliza with a gun, summer is hot with a gun though. 😀
Min already stole the picture. 😉
Guns in general aren't sexy though..
 
MinwaraYana
MinwaraYana
And also stole the words off your mouth :P
It's chicks that looks like they can kick ass that's hot. The gun is just an attribute to do that.

Hot chicks that handle guns like the ones in WA video just looses lots of points by looking silly.

/SK
 
white avenger said:
If you look closely, you might notice that the muzzle of her rifle is plugged. It's a non-firing training aid, and about as deadly as a broom handle.
I doubt she has much experience with broom handles either!
 
Uhm. Hot chicks. With guns. It's all there in the title. Although I prefer shotguns myself. First, they look much more impressive and secondly, they're better to handle.

I think it's the idealised image of the small, helpless woman which then gets associated with something as deadly and dangerous as a gun. Or a sword. Or any sort of "manly" weapon or a good set of martial arts skills, really. It turns that whole image upside down.
 
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