What's Xander's Secret? (Spoilers S9)

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Fans have been speculating non-stop about what Xander is hiding from Dawn and what's gotten him so depressed in #1.

Here's my question, of all that was said about Xander's secret, what do you suspect will happen and what will you rule out?

1) Xander having financial problems.
2) Xander receiving some kind of demonic aspect or a superpower when Buffy broke the seed.
3) Xander missing being the leader of a squad and the slaying life and is afraid of telling Dawn that after her promised her a normal life.
4) Xander and Buffy had an affair and it's depressing him.
5) Xander still has feelings for Buffy and regrets rejecting her.
6) Xander is ill.
7) Dawn is in danger.
8) Something to do with his parents.
9) Xander would really like/love to go to college/university, but that would mean he'll have less time to work or even for Dawn to start working part-time so both of them to be able to go to college.
10) Xander has PTSD from Giles's death and maybe feels guilty for standing by and letting Giles go there.
11) Another theory is that he's working with others (like the Government, tbtb, demons) in return for something like keeping his friends safe.
 
VisionGirl
VisionGirl
You shoulda set this up as a poll! :)
3) Xander missing being the leader of a squad and the slaying life and is afraid of telling Dawn that after her promised her a normal life.
I think it's this. In fact, didn't Allie or Jeanty allude to this at some point? I really can't remember where I got that idea, but I immediately thought this was it when I read that page.

10) Xander has PTSD from Giles's death and maybe feels guilty for standing by and letting Giles go there.
This could definitely be a factor.
11) Another theory is that he's working with others (like the Government, tbtb, demons) in return for something like keeping his friends safe.
Hmm, I hadn't thought on these lines. But honestly, it would be a good storyline for him, I sure hope we have something other than ordinary life/back to work Xander- we had enough of that in the TV series.
 
VisionGirl agrees: You shoulda set this up as a poll!

I should have. *smacks head*

I, too, think that 3, 10 and 11 are the ones that will mostly happen, and really hope they are.
 
I should have. *smacks head*

I, too, think that 3, 10 and 11 are the ones that will mostly happen, and really hope they are.

Yeah, if Buffy & Xander sleep together, I'll be pissed!
 
white avenger
white avenger
Not in this or any other lifetime. Not even Joss would sink that low. Considering their relationship over the last 8 plus years, it would be just one step short of incest
If he sleeps/slept with Buffy and cheats on Dawn then I am done with this comic for good.

They'll probably just make him gay though. Most likely in a typical "Hah! You thought Andrew was guy? No, its Xander!" 'clever' and 'witty' story arc.
 
I really doubt Buffy and Xander had an affair. I think the writers may have left that open as a possibility to stir things up and get a little excitement, but I have trouble seeing them actually going down that path.

Maybe Buffy and Xander are looking into restoring magic in hopes of getting some aspects of their old lives back. Or it could be something as simple as them not telling Dawn just how much Buffy changed (upset) the world, maybe Dawn thinks they are out of harms way for good...when in reality we know people are coming after Buffy. I like #3 and #10. IMO those are the most likely to happen.
 
He's having a sleazy affair with Dracula!
Willow is pregnant and he is the father!
Potency manhood problems and/or a deadly illness, AIDS or Cancer or whatever is popular these days, also infertility!

Or maybe it's because his superhero idol evil-fighting best friend/potential love interest has suddenly turned into a pathetic, infantile parody of herself from 5 years before?
 
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Or maybe it's because his superhero idol evil-fighting best friend/potential love interest has suddenly turned into a pathetic, infantile parody of herself from 5 years before?

Then he would have been depressed in S7 too. 🙂

Anyway, if the comic wasn't so badly written I think that Xander being depressed because people like vampires would have been a neat theory. But considering the moronic Dracula arc this will probably be Jossed soon. And while I do strongly believe that we need a far stronger reaction to Giles's death than we have gotten so far, I think it would be rather weird to have Xander being more affected than Buffy and Willow as they were closer to Giles than he was. It will probably be something stupid and it will be Xander's turn to "go dark" as we know the writers can't be bothered to come up with new villains...
 
VisionGirl
VisionGirl
Oh god no, please don't say that! And LOL at "Jossed".
Actually, Xander is negotiating with a demon in London to buy a vial of Mohra blood to use in resurrecting Anya. Hey, why should Angel be the only one to come up with that idea? Xander's at least as smart as Angel. Of course, so's my dog, but he's a SMART dog. Really. Dead serious here. Definitely Mohra blood. For Anya. He just doesn't know how to break the news to Dawn, so he asked Buffy for advice, which only compounded matters.

He really should have asked my dog.
 
1) Xander having financial problems. I don't think we'd see him looking quite this bummed out, based on how he's dealt with financial issues before. Plus I don't think he'd be saying that Dawn "never has to know" if this was the case, because if they were bad enough for him to act this depressed, she'd probably know already.

2) Xander receiving some kind of demonic aspect or a superpower when Buffy broke the seed. Totally possible, and would make sense that he'd want to keep it from Dawn.

3) Xander missing being the leader of a squad and the slaying life and is afraid of telling Dawn that after her promised her a normal life. Seems very likely. Especially since he sarcastically refers to Buffy's new semi-"normal" lifestyle as "a wonderful life."

4) Xander and Buffy had an affair and it's depressing him. Doubt it. I really think Buffy would be exhibiting signs of guilt over this, and Xander wouldn't be the only one acting depressed. Look at how she reacted to the memory of her flirtations with Riley. She's ashamed that she "flirted with a married man." If she'd slept with her sister's boyfriend she'd be completely upset and probably not able to interact so cheerfully with Xander as she does in this issue.


5) Xander still has feelings for Buffy and regrets rejecting her.
Not likely, because based on the dialogue it seems this is something Buffy knows about. If he'd told her he had feelings for her, her behavior toward him would be different. She'd be more sensitive to it.

6) Xander is ill.
7) Dawn is in danger. I lump these two together with #5 because, again, if Buffy knew the secret she wouldn't be acting as she is. Especially if it was #7; she'd be trying to figure out what the danger was and more protective of Dawn.

8) Something to do with his parents.
Could be, but I'm guessing not because that wouldn't be all that new--also, after all he's been through, I don't think something to do with them would make him act this way.

9) Xander would really like/love to go to college/university, but that would mean he'll have less time to work or even for Dawn to start working part-time so both of them to be able to go to college. I don't see why not.

10) Xander has PTSD from Giles's death and maybe feels guilty for standing by and letting Giles go there.
Totally possible, but why would he be so upset in comparison to the rest of the gang?

11) Another theory is that he's working with others (like the Government, tbtb, demons) in return for something like keeping his friends safe. I was thinking something along these lines. Like, maybe he made a deal with one of the above and something went wrong and he doesn't want Dawn to know.
 
He is GAY! Xander and Andrew have been getting it on after/during Season 8 and so forth.

They just skipped some main parts about it but it's there somewhere!
 
To be honest, I have no idea what the secret is. I just hope whatever it is isn't very damaging to his character.
 
Here are the Xander questions and answers from the Scott Allie Q&A. I can see that the answer about Xander's secret has something to do with why he wants out of the slaying life.



3. Stoney: Hi

I'm really looking forward to seeing some real character progression in S9, particularly with Buffy and Spike, but my question is actually about Xander, one of the often quieter characters:

Will Xander get to address his feelings/reactions about Angel and Giles?


Scott: In short, maybe. No promises, but there is a lot of aftermath from the end of Season 8. But the Buffy title is moving forward more swiftly than the Angel & Faith title is.


6. Sosa Lola: Xander has always been good at hiding his pain and suffering, but after all that has happened to him in the last few years, from losing Anya, an eye, his hometown, Renee and the castle, to watching Buffy betray them with Angel, and watching Giles be killed right in front of him, is it possible that we're going to see Xander break emotionally?

Scott: He's definitely in for some emotional trouble of his own, and the stuff you list is part of why he's withdrawing from the Scooby aspect of things, toward more domesticity. I hope he doesn't break. Buffy has enough problems coming up.


9. Matrim: Will Willow and Xander rebuild their friendship in S9? Willow needs to learn how to be "normal again", after spending years of being a powerful witch and ignoring her talents in other areas like hacking, and Xander should be the perfect guy to help her with that. Both have had plenty of scenes with Buffy in the comics but almost no scenes with only the two of them. Will this change in S9?

I hope the above counts as just one question.


Scott: This isn't really gonna change anytime soon. There are things going on with both that prevent us from focusing on that. You'll see soon...


13. Sosa Lola: Considering the snarky background to their interactions and that Spike had a protective/brotherly role with Dawn at one time, will we get to see any new dynamics between Xander and Spike and how they react to each other anew in S9?

Scott: Yes, but not right away. There's a scene early on where they're together, but what you're talking about doesn't play out. It will, though.


18. Moscow Watcher: When you were breaking down season 9 together with Joss, have you discussed a possibility of Xander changing his profession so that he could spend more time around Buffy and help her in a professional capacity - as a cop or a reporter or a private investigator?

Scott: No, we've been real sold on the idea for a while that Xander would really be looking for more of a very normal life, and mostly putting Scooby activity of any kind behind him. We talked about that sort of thing with other characters, but not Dawn or Xander.


21. tigerfan: Many fans are very excited to see an emotional storyline for Xander like seeing him so gloomy and secretive in this issue. We're excited at the prospects of seeing Xander go through the emotions of all that affected him instead of just being told that he dealt with it all off screen. Would you say this is leading to something big for him story arc wise that would last the whole season as oppose to just a few issues arc? Many Xander fans were afraid that he would disappear into the background with Dawn and wouldn't play much of a role this season, but we're excited and eagerly waiting to see what he's up to and how he's feeling. We just don't want to be burned again on the idea of an emotional story and it mostly play for background growth or a storyline that has more affect on other characters than it does for him. Thanks for continuing with the Q&As!

Scott: Lot of love for Xander, which is great. I can't say how much of this you're getting this season. We're balancing things to make sure that we get through the story in twenty-five issues, not balloon past it like last time. I love the character too, but I'm sure he won't get as much as some readers would like.


26. Chad Schwartz: I was disappointed there was no mention of Xander's complicity in Buffy's bankrobbing and so on. He used to be willing to challenge her when she was going off course and he never did that in S8. I think that fits where they are, but I wish it had been a plot point for further development of that arc. Will it be addressed in S9?

Scott: Xander will call her on some stuff in Season 9, yeah. But he won't say, Remember when you robbed banks, that was bad. But he will have input about better choices going forward.


31. Sosa Lola: I have really enjoyed the issue, especially the part with Xander having a secret and hiding it from Dawn. I love how Buffy knows about it and is being supportive. Is Buffy the only one who knows about it? Does the secret involve her?

Scott: This needs to remain open to interpretation for now.


32. cheryl: Hi Scott, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions. The issue was great today, btw.

My question is this..."Will there be a moment in the over all plot for Xander this season that will have us screaming Holy cow!"


Scott: You mean that hasn't happened yet? Sorry. I don't know that we will succeed in amping Xander's situation that high.


34. Stoney: Hi Scott, thanks for carrying on with the Q&As. It is hard to picture how Xander and Dawn will feature if they are no longer playing an active role in the Scooby gang and whether they can, therefore, work independently of each other as well. Many Xander fans are afraid he will become more 'Dawn's boyfriend' and disappear into the background once again. Are they going to have a decent level of autonomy from eachother and will Xander end up isolating himself if he isn't within the Scoobies, won't be re-establishing his friendship with Willow and is keeping secrets from Dawn?

Scott: Sorry, the only real answer I can give there is that Dawn and Xander will appear together most of the time at least in the early part of the season.


40. Chad Schwartz: In S8, we got a reprise of seasons 2/3 where Buffy's love for Angel is horribly destructive. Xander's reaction to what happened in S8 (his faith and trust in Buffy without judging her or yelling at her) is a big contrast from his anger and going on a mission to kill Angel with Faith in S3. If we are going to be treating Xander as a rich well-developed character, shouldn't the writers deal with how that echoes with the season 3 conflict between Buffy and Xander?

Scott: That is definitely a path we could explore, not so much in contrast to Season 3, but in terms of how he's reacting to things that have happened lately.



41. Sosa Lola: Is poor Xander going to have a guy friend this season? After Jesse's death I don't think he really had a close guy friend. I wonder if he can form a strong friendship with a guy like he did with women. A Xander/Spike friendship would be awesome.

Scott: There are new male characters coming into the cast, so one would hope, but he really does form better friendships with women, from Willow on down the line.


44. tigerfan: Yes, there is a lot of love out there for Xander. I've noticed from looking around the interwebs that there seems to be a lot of excitement and buzz about Xander and his secret and the possibility of a great role for him to play for the season. Many Xander fans have been amped up before at the idea of a possible juicy role only for it to fizzle out. I'm hoping to see a role that takes him off the sidelines and actually see a storyline that focuses on his emotions and part in the story. Would you say that this secret is a big part of his story this year or is it something else?

Scott: No comment, sorry.
 
I assume you guys mean Xander & Buffy's bed room scen?

BUFFY: Hey, you wanna talk about it? Nobody'll miss us; We got a few minutes...

XANDER: Then let's use that few minutes to not talk about it.

BUFFY: Dawnie...

XANDER: Never has to know.

I assumed we were suppose to believe that Buffy was making a move on Xander, and that Buffy, recalling the event, was suppose to believe that as well and fear they had sex. But I also figured that that would prove to be deliberately misleading, and in reality, Buffy just wanted to talk about it so they could put it behind them.

I didn't consider there being something else behind it. I still assume I was right about the scene being meant to trick Buffy and us, but who knows what's behind it. Some good theories in this thread though. I think it's likely to be guilt over Giles' death.
 
Is it in any way plausible that Dawn doesn't know about Giles' death? I'll be honest, I didn't read the last half of season 8, I just read synopses, so maybe they didn't tell Dawn what happened?

Or maybe I just woke up and that is a ridiculous statement. Go easy me. 😛
 
brinkster130
brinkster130
You know I wondered something similar. I'm sure she knew about his death since there was a funeral...but maybe she doesn't know all the details about what happened.
Is it in any way plausible that Dawn doesn't know about Giles' death? I'll be honest, I didn't read the last half of season 8, I just read synopses, so maybe they didn't tell Dawn what happened?

Or maybe I just woke up and that is a ridiculous statement. Go easy me. 😛

I doubt Dawn doesn't know. There was a funeral and all. And she was the one to wake Buffy up from her Giles nightmare.
 
To be honest, I have no idea what the secret is. I just hope whatever it is isn't very damaging to his character.

I'm with you. I hope they never turn Xander into "the bad guy" in the comics... I have no inkling as to what could be upsetting him so bad but I really hope it's not that he has turned into a shady character and is having to keep it from Dawn.
 
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