Whedon's New Show - Dollhouse

Old Master III said:
I am with Goldenboy in that violence shall be perpetrated if JossGod gets the shaft again. There will be blood...oh yes....there WILL be blood.
Let us all hope for the very best here.

lol, yeah I mentioned something similar on another board. The fans would go nuts and storm FOX 😛
I find it weird that people are concerned about Joss' schedule to... And as far as I know he's always had a lot on his plate, and Tim Minear... woot 😉
 
According to one of the stories out there, I think Michael Aussiello at TV Guide, if there's not an immediate writers strike the show will probably premiere midseason 2008, as in THIS season. (Like how FOX greenlit Drive so late last season.) Which means they could premiere it at the end of March (lots of midseason shows premiere in March), and hopefully they'll schedule it after American Idol for the duration of the seven episodes.

But from what I read, I'm assuming if there IS a strike and the episodes aren't written soon the show will just be pushed back until next season.
 
i think Eliza will have a lot of say in the show as well. It wasn't just Joss who created it. He came up with the idea in the restroom [which is pretty frakkin hilarious, btw] and they talked about it after he pitched it to her. I think Eliza, having done multiple shows and movies, will be good with the consulting and producing. And this is Joss Whedon we're talking about. He was doing 3 shows at one time. [granted, FOX killed one show, and then the WB another.] I can't wait to hear more about it. And I can't wait to see it. If it comes out next season. This is number one on my 'to watch' list. I'm also still reeling from the fact that Joss is STILL considering Ripper after 5 or so years of thinking about it. Maybe one day, We'll see good 'ole Giles on air again.
 
I am excited. It sounds good. Still at the end of the day I will have to see it before I can pass a good or bad judgement. I still want a Buffy movie...though...and a show will tie him up for years....but heres to hoping its a sucess and its good..
 
OMG!! I actually started screaming (out of excitement, not fear haha) when I read this, and my brother was like 'what the hell are you doing?" and then when I told him he went nuts too (we're both obsessive Whedon/Eliza fans) I can't believe it! this is HUGE, best news I've heard since Serenity was announced! I just can't wait until we have more information on this, I mean think of the possibilities! there could be cameos from anyone in the whedonverse! and some Buffy/Angel/Firefly writers are going to be involved! woow I think I'm going now, I need some air. 😱


EDIT: What happened?? I didn't click 'post' more than one time! someone help! delete all the other posts please.

EDIT:OH good they're gone! I don't know how, but THANKS!
 
I get the idea that Echo's a 'blank slate' and can be programmed to be a character...but she can't truly become a specific someone from a client's past, can she? There's no physical transformation...
 
OMG I am so excited. But I dont really get what its about??

As I understand it, it goes something like this. Imagine you wake up each morning in a kind of dormitory. As far as you know this is your reality. You eat, sleep, and breath there. As far as you know it's all there is. Then you start getting flashes. Flashes of yourself a master of everything from Kung Fu to Kama Sutra. You slowly remember bits of events taking place in a much larger, more evil, and dangerous world.

It turns out there is a secret organization intermittently loading knowledge, and muscle memories into the thing that is you, then sending you off to satisfy the fantasies of the ultra-rich. When you return to the Dollhouse you've forgotten everything, or at least that's what's supposed to happen.

Now that's a concept rife with possibilities.
 
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crabby patty
thank you - much clearer now
The idea of the Dollhouse kinda reminds me of The Island (the film with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson) but not only because of the concept but also because Ewan McGregor's character was called "Lincoln Six Echo" coincidence?
 
The idea of the Dollhouse kinda reminds me of The Island (the film with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson) but not only because of the concept but also because Ewan McGregor's character was called "Lincoln Six Echo" coincidence?

Yes I'd say coincidence.
 
Lincoln Six Echo would be call signs for L6E wouldn't they? Meaning L6E is his serial number. 2 different things.
 
Imagine you wake up each morning in a kind of dormitory. As far as you know this is your reality. You eat, sleep, and breath there. As far as you know it's all there is. Then you start getting flashes. Flashes of yourself a master of everything from Kung Fu to Kama Sutra. You slowly remember bits of events taking place in a much larger, more evil, and dangerous world.

It turns out there is a secret organization intermittently loading knowledge, and muscle memories into the thing that is you, then sending you off to satisfy the fantasies of the ultra-rich. When you return to the Dollhouse you've forgotten everything, or at least that's what's supposed to happen.

Now that's a concept rife with possibilities.

That was so brilliantly articulated. You should be doing their promos!
This concept leaves a lot of space for the whole female against the big patriarchy.
 
Lincoln Six Echo would be call signs for L6E wouldn't they? Meaning L6E is his serial number. 2 different things.

Yes definitely!
its just that it seemed really odd that the show reminded me of two things one is the Island and the other Dark Angel, and one of them actually had a striking similarity, but I think it is most certainly a coincidence!

I think the name Echo is really appropriate for Eliza's character, seeing as one of the meanings of the word echo is "be reminiscent of or have close characteristics" and that's what the character is about, I mean she gets imprinted with these personality traits that can turn her into anything but she is not an action hero or a stripper (or whatever traits she gets imprinted with) so therefore she is the echo of these personalities not the real deal. (I think my explanation is really sucky but I hope you understand what i mean haha)
 
Here's what Joss had to say about that sort of thing.

TVWeek: "Heroes" recently added a character who's sort of like Echo, in that she can instantly learn any ability. Did that give you an "uh-oh" moment?

Whedon: I didn't actually know that. I was fine until now. Thanks a lot. One of the first rules of a pilot, you will see everything you are doing somewhere else the year before you do it. I saw "Bionic Woman" and I was like, "Oh, I better change my thing." I like to think that means you're smack dab in the middle of the zeitgeist. The real thing that's important is what do you have to say about that person. And what I have to say is never what somebody else has to say. On "Buffy," all the hoariest old tropes"”the evil twin, the Monkey's Paw"”what's important is what you have to say about it.

James Hibberd - Joss Whedon Returns to Fox With New Series 'Dollhouse' - TVWeek - Blogs
 
I'm sitting on the skeptical fence concerning FOX's involvement, but I'm not so far gone that I can't hold out hope. *fingers crossed* and an OM FREAKING GAWDDDD!
 
different version of a previous announcement

Ausiello Report
Eliza Dushku Lures Joss Whedon Back To TV

Short of a Buffy the Vampire Slayer reunion movie, this is just about the best news you could ask for: Eliza Dushku and Joss Whedon are reteaming for a new series! (Told ya it would be worth tearing yourself away from the candy corn to drop by The Ausiello Report.) Here are the five things you have to know about the show, and I mean now:

1. It's a one-hour drama produced by Twentieth Century Fox to air on Fox. The first of the seven episodes to which the network has committed could premiere as early as spring.

2. It's called Dollhouse because that's the nickname of the high-tech lab where a group of human chalkboards are kept between assignments.

3. Human chalkboards?! Yes! What else would you call characters like Dushku's Echo who can be given new memories, skills and even personalities, then stripped of them just as quickly, leaving them virtual children?

4. Whedon is the creator, head writer and executive producer, and perhaps in part because Dushku convinced him to do the show, she's getting a producer credit. (Fellow Buffyverse alum Tim Minear is also on board.)

5. I just got off the phone with both of them!

First things first: How in the hellmouth did Dushku get her Buffy and Angel boss to do it? In a word, food. Shortly after she signed a development deal with Fox in August, "I called the one man that I knew I wanted to do [a series] with and had to have [in order to] to have the best show possible" and invited him to lunch, she says. "And he was seduced!"

Actually, hypnotized, Whedon counters. "Eliza was wearing a hat with a big spiraling wheel on it, and she kept saying, 'Look into the wheel. You want to make television. You want it to be about me….' It sounds hokey, but it really worked."

And how. Not only did Dushku get Whedon to agree to work on the project, but what she calls their "contagious, freaky, awesome energy" at that very get-together inspired him to create it. "I came up with [the concept] at lunch completely spontaneously, based on my conversation with Eliza," he insists. "It wasn't [an idea] that I was nurturing or that I tailored or I tried to retro-fit to her."

So what is the concept, exactly? Explains Whedon: "Dollhouse is a suspense drama about a girl who can have any personality except her own." So it's part Alias and part Quantum Leap, "because Echo is literally changing who she is," he continues. "She gets into people's lives a little bit."

Even Dushku's. "I relate so much to this character," she marvels. "Echo is essentially the story of my life. I've lived a crazy life the past 16 years, traveling around the world and then tripping and falling into this business. Everyone wants you to transform and be a different person every week."

Great chemistry and intriguing premise notwithstanding, you'd think that after Fox snuffed Whedon's Firefly and hung up on Dushku's Tru Calling, one or both of them would have been more than a little hesitant to get back into bed with the network. "Honestly? Walking back into that building was pretty damn strange," Whedon admits. But "I always had a good relationship with [Twentieth Century Fox], and on the network end, it's a completely new bunch of people, and from what I've seen, a fairly impressive bunch."

Dushku seconds that emotion. "I really get the sense that they're committed to [this show]… It feels right."

Besides, as Whedon notes, "I told them I was interested in writing a pilot, and they gave me seven episodes. They've already shown more support for it than I have."

Now it's your turn to show the comeback kids some love. And, like Dushku, I don't think you'll let them down. "We have the best fans in the business [in the] the Buffy and Whedon universe," she says. "It's going to be pandemonium when this [news] hits." And it's only just begun.
— Additional reporting by Ben Katner

link to the TV Guide article
 
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