When did BtVS reach it's peak?

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Just wondered when you feel Buffy was at it's absolute best? At what season would you have been content for Buffy to have ended (if it really had to). Tell us why you think this and what you love about the season and what about it would have made you happy for it to end there.

Mine would be Season 3. For me it seems this season was so well rounded, it had something for everyone in terms of episodes. I love Faith and her story arc. I love the season finale and the 'end of an era' high school wise. I adore Bangel and their break up. The prom. I could continue...

Please no arguments though if you don't agree then disagree politely 😀
 
Personally I think that Buffy should have ended with Season 5. It was my favourite season because I feel that it's the first season where the Big Bad is stronger than Buffy. Plus Dawn (who is now one of my favourite characters) was in it

Season 6 was okay, but I don't like the idea of there being loads of Slayers at the end of season 7.

Seasons 6 and 7 make 'The Gift' less meaningful, and I've seen some of the storylines for the comic. Personally I think they sound pretty ridiculous. 😱
 
I think Buffy's best was Season 2 episode 13 (Surprise) all the way through Season 3 episode 22 (Graduation Day part 2). So basically the second half of season 2 and season 3. I've said this before, but I will re- ittirate why I love that period of the show so much. First off, they just do a terrific job of coming up with story arcs that just fit, and are so entertaining and engaging. I think in this period of the show, the story and develepmonts were the best. They also maintained Buffy's mix of genres very well. I think it took the writers season 1 and the first half of season 2 to really find what Buffy is, and they kept up the greatness fopr the remainder of Buffy's time in High School. Also, looking back, I think BtVS's second half f season 2 and season 3 gets major points for nostalgia. A lot of it stuck with me, and I know it's awesome, because I can rewatch it a thousand times and it's still not getting old. Also, I don't think there was any point where I wish the show had ended.
 
[MENTION=11394]Enemies[/MENTION], I know exactly what you mean and I think in terms of solid structure and writing I think the show could have ended with season 3. I think it's the tightest season with the most consistent quality, (followed closely behind with season 5).

However, seasons 4 and up happen to have some of my ultimate favorite moments and feature my favorite characters in ways which I think are indispensable to the show and make it what it is, you know? So it's really, really hard to say.

Structurally speaking, 3 would do it. But I don't think the show would be what it is without 4, 5, 6, and 7. (Okay maybe we could do without a lot of 7. And I'm undecided about the comics!)
 
The show has two peaks for me, but I wouldn't necessarily want the show to end with either of them. I see it a complete product for the most part.

One way or another, the first peak for me would be a continuous streak across seasons 2 through 3. Both seasons had well-defined and self-contained themes that also tied into to the wider "growing up" narrative of BtVS. S2 was emotionally raw and almost violent in its treatment of love, intimacy, death and the loss of innocence in adolescence. Angelus also remains my favourite Big Bad of the series "“ he made Buffy so vulnerable, and the murder of Jenny made him even more threatening. Then, to have him turn back just as Buffy finds the strength to stab him...it's heartbreakingly good drama. I don't think Buffy was ever as vulnerable after S2, but S3 was equally effective in how it dealt with Buffy's relationship with authority figures and institutions, and developed her identity as the Slayer by introducing Faith, who I think is one of the best Buffy characters. So many of my favourite episodes are in those two seasons "“ When She Was Bad, Lie To Me, What's My Line, Surprise/Innocence, I Only Have Eyes For You, Passion, Faith, Hope and Trick, Amends, Doppelgangland, Bad Girls, Consequences, Enemies, The Prom, Graduation Day and of course, my favourite episode from any TV show ever, Becoming. The Bangel relationship, the horrible lessons that Buffy has to learn about being a Slayer, the strength she finds to keep fighting and keep living in a hard, painful world, her alienation from even her closest friends and family "“ I can't help but feel that S2-3 defined everything that came afterwards in BtVS.

I think the show also reached a peak in Season 6. I love that it totally subverted everything about BtVS as it had been. First and foremost, I really believe that sending the characters into downward spirals is what let Buffy emerge at her most awesome in S6. I've said this before, but she shows more moral strength in S6 than she ever has before or since, and it demonstrates what a real hero she is "“ she's the only one of the Scoobies who consistently never rationalises her actions, who hates what she's become so much that she pulls herself out of the darkness. Even Willow had to hurt Dawn before she realised that she had a problem. Meanwhile, Warren was ten times more interesting than another inherently evil demon/vampire/god. He was just a completely awful guy. Not to mention, his death was the best murder scene in BtVS since Jenny Calendar. That isn't to say that Dark Willow was at all similar to Angelus "“ I personally see Dark Willow as a tragic figure. It was really refreshing to see an antagonist in BtVS born not of the evil inside them but of grief and rage. It burned me up inside in a way that no other major conflict in Buffy had since Angelus.

They could have ended it on Season 6 for me, but I think Season 7 was important to tie up the central metaphor of Buffy and give it a big finish. For that reason, I'd be loath at best to say that I'd be happy with BtVS ending before Chosen.
 
Well, I wouldn't want it to end there but I'd have to say that season 3 seemed like the peak for me as well.
 
Season 5 was the peak for me but my favourite season is still season 6. I think the last 2 seasons were kind of a bonus really, I'd have been ok if it had ended with Buffy dying to save the world.
 
I think the show was at it's best in season 5, but the other seasons had so much to give too. And since I accept the comics as canon, the show hasn't ended yet, and I don't want it too.

Of course, it depends on what you mean by "best". Just because I prefer it doesn't mean it's the "best".
 
For me, the show was never so entertaining, never so moving, and never so unforgettable as it was during S2 and S3. Baring isolated moments of brilliance, the show deteriorated steadily after that point, often times being unrecognizable.
 
BtVS peak was definitely S5. The show was really at its best by then, and the ending with Buffy sacrificing herself would have been a great finish. 🙂 From S6 and on, the show started to falter, imo.
 
As others have said ... Seasons 2-3. In that stretch of time there were only a few subpar episodes, and many brilliant ones.

Once we get out of high school, I think the show deteriorates slowly in season 4, and rapidly after season 5 with the introduction of Dawn.

I don't necessarily want the series to end after Season 3, but I certainly would have appreciated a better overall direction.
 
Seasons 2 and 3 are the absolute best. I agree, the show was at it's peak with season 3...I agree with all of your reasons. Oh and Lover's Walk! That might be the best episode of the season...maybe. And The Wish is great. I loved season 3 so much when I first saw it, ugh it's great. It's my favorite one to re-watch.
 
Wow, it's surprisingly nearly completely unanimous, latter half of Season 2 and all of Season 3.

And as others have posted another different peak at season 5.
 
Season 2 and 3 are when the show was at its best. It was all down hill after graduation.

IMO after graduation the friendships between everyone slowly deteriorated, people seemed more self centered and the plot holes seems more and more far fetched.
 
I think it peaked at season 5. I would have been happy for it to end there, but I did still enjoy 6 and 7, though not as much as the first 5 season.
 
I agree, I think it peaked at Season 5. I mean, it started to get really good when Season 2 came along, but I just think Season 5 was the best season and really showed what the show was capable of.
 
Season 2 and 3 are when the show was at its best. It was all down hill after graduation.

IMO after graduation the friendships between everyone slowly deteriorated, people seemed more self centered and the plot holes seems more and more far fetched.

Totally agree, would karma you. In agreeing though I did like Season 4, but season 5 once Dawn comes into play, well something inside me died a little.
 
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