Who was hurt the most?

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Sorry but I can't remember the episode's name and I don't even know which season. But do you remember the scenario when Anya slept with Spike and Xander and Buffy find out? Then they meet each other in front of the magic box. Spike was ashamed because Buffy didn't want to go with him. Anya was disapointed because Xander threw the wedding. And Buffy and Xander ... well you know what happened.

So who whas affected the most after the meeting, who was hurt the most? Was it Xander or Buffy or maybe Anya or Spike?
 
It was Season 6, the episode Entropy, if I remember correctly.

I think Xander was hurt the most.
In my opinion, Spike and Anya were the ones causing the trouble, so it was kinda their own fault and to me Buffy's relationship with Spike gets only serious towards the end of Season 7, even though it's not that obvious.
Xander was just, like, the victim. He still loved Anya, and she knew it.
 
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Very well said. And thanks for the name of the ep.
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I'm sure all four of them were hurt at the time. They all were going though a difficult time and Anya and Spike turned to each other because of their pain.

I dont know that it's fair to say one of them was in more pain than the other, but the person who I felt most for in this scene was Anya. She had no one and the one person she fell in love with and learned to rely on dumped her in the most humiliating way possible. If Buffy and Xander hadn't treated their significant others so poorly then this whole thing would have never happened. I bet Buffy and Xander felt a bit of guilt as well as betrayal afterwards.
 
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I mean I think it's really difficult to say who was hurt the most but from my perspective I'd say it was Spike and Anya.

They were each rejected by the people they loved. Anya slightly less so, if we're getting technical; Xander at least still wanted to be with her even though he didn't want to marry her. But Buffy had encouraged Spike to move on, telling him there was no hope with her. Of the four of them, he was the one with the least hope.
 
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I'm not sure this is a fair question. That situation and season was hurtful in general to all the characters.

Xander's hurt seems unjustified but you've got to take into account he didn't want to leave Anya, he just wasn't ready for marriage and didn't want to resent her for the rest of his life. Plus he hated Spike for irrational reasons

Anya was confused as hell because of this. I mean... why would Xander leave her at the alter if he still wanted to be with her? She was just re-learning how to be human and this was too grey for her.

Spike had no idea how to be what Buffy needed and wanted. He wanted to help her, but had no idea how to do that. And that killed him inside.

And Buffy... had no idea what she wanted. Buffy couldn't be helped at that point because she didn't even know how to help herself. And then she felt the shame for her affair with Spike from Xander... the one person she REALLY didn't want to find out. The least likely person to understand.

So I think everyone got hurt equally here. Of course, I empathize with Spike's hurt the most... but I think the hurt was equally spread everywhere.
 
Xander was very hurted but buffy was it so.
Buffy was hurted by two things:

first, by the scene anya/spike,
and then, by the Alex's criticisms (about the fact she has an intime relation with spike and he didn't know that).

alex was hurted but me for me he makes a huge mystake with anya (By leaving the wedding) and for me She owes him nobody explanations (she do what she wants).
It is inequitable to criticize her.
 
I think that Xander was more angry than hurt, though he WAS hurt. For some inexplicable reason, he seemed to think that Anya still owed him some sort of loyalty, despite the fact that he had ran out on their wedding. He saw her for some reason not only betraying him, but also insulting him by having sex with a soulless monster, conveniently forgetting, or maybe not knowing, that Anya, herself, was once more a monster in her own right, and responsible for far more deaths and mayhem than Spike ever could have been.

Neither Spike nor Anya owed Buffy or Xander either fealty or explanation for their actions, since both were, in fact free agents, adult, and answerable only to their own consciences for their actions. Once again, for those reasons, I saw them as being more angry and confused by what happened than actually hurt.

Buffy, on the other hand, I saw as being the most hurt by Spike's betrayal, not from his having sex with Anya (a little jealous, maybe, but that's just my personal opinion) but because he told someone, and even worse, one of Buffy's best friends, about their "dirty little secret." That, to me, actually marked the end of Buffy and Spike's affair in Season 6 far more than her break up with him at the end of "As You Were" ever did.
 
I think Xander and Anya. It's hard to say with spike cause he is pretty emotional all the time about everything but I never feel like it effects him as much. But I feel bad for Buffy.
 
I think Xander and Anya. It's hard to say with spike cause he is pretty emotional all the time about everything but I never feel like it effects him as much.

And also Spike's a demon. He shouldn't be hurt at all, in my opinion.
Well, he's an unusual demon...
 
I think all the characters were hurt in different ways. Even Xander, whose pain I find hard to sympathize with, was driven to extremes when he tried to kill Spike. It's hard to say who was hurt the most given their different situations and states of mind, but I sympathize the most with Anya. She was just left at the altar by the love of her life and was trying to cope with that, and then the man she loves shows up again, thoroughly shames her for that choice, and tries to kill the guy she slept with. I can't help but imagine that she felt angry, guilty, scared, confused, and incredibly heartbroken all at the same time.
 
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good point!
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